NotThePars

The Chlamydia Kid on here is a great example of someone who happily votes against his economic interests because he thinks electing in a left wing party is going to lead to him being crushed under the boot of a trans immigrant demanding he accepts he has to be horny for her.

Aye I’m no arguing that we should pursue independence for an old school Labour type government but I do think that protecting and building on the ideology that founded the welfare state should be a central component of any drive for independence. Is that compatible with business interests? I’m sceptical.

I’m not convinced by the latter so I would say the former. I also wouldn’t see the point of independence if it was necessary to capitulate to business interests to achieve it. I think we don’t appreciate the fact that a mainstream positive vision of a socially just independent Scotland was at the heart of a movement that had a substantial jump in the polls and nearly got over the line and instead try to give undue prominence to fringe figures such as the RISE lot who really didn’t have that substantial a role in the campaign. That’s just my view on events and I’m willing to admit it’s probably rose-tinted.

An election fought by Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove that positions the Tories as the party of “ordinary working people” will be even funnier.

The SNP’s demonstrated its competency for the past 11 years. That it seems to be getting plaudits, once again, for pursuing some level of radical politics is encouraging and good IMO. I find it annoying that people (not saying peppino is saying it) tacitly argue that compromise should be one way in favour of business interests where leftists ought to shut up and eat their cereal while the SNP and the Yes movement woos the centre right into jumping on board. It’s a battle you’ll never win if your goal is social justice.

God dang I’m glad I was sorta skimming over the comments since spoilers don’t work on mobile [emoji37]

A lot of it is our fault tbf. It’s what makes the Republic owning us repeatedly even more galling.

“If the Tories bring in a halfway competent leader then they’ll scoosh the next election” *orders in a dick ton of red and black party streamers*

I think it’s extremely good that the Tories want to install three people who only make sense if we accidentally went back a century in 2010.

Tim Stanley lamented the state of Britain today after some builders laughed at his bow-tie.

Feel deep for anyone living in Coventry, Wolverhampton or Stoke. It would be easy to imagine you’ve been forgotten by Westminster if you lived in any of those places.

Dundee had the same proportion of Remain voters as London.

*dives for cover*

The extent of the anti-Catholic bullying I’ve suffered in my life has been getting called a Catholic b*****d in primary school. Fairly sure famous commentator Angela Hegarty took Limmy’s brother to court over anti-Irish bigotry a few years back, no?

Ah I get you. I still don’t think that would have as big an impact as a devastating hard Brexit would on people’s views towards independence.

I’m the opposite but then that’s probably because I am useless at understanding a lot of that. You want to see me playing an RTS. Useless.

Explosions are cool for a movie or a game but I don’t find it v interesting in history. I’m more of a Russian Revolutionary boy, of course.

I have no idea if it makes sense I just remember it from my undergrad but I never followed it up because I’ve little interest in the British military campaigns of World War Two.

There’s a strong current of historiographical thought that argues that Britain went to war primarily in defence of its empire particularly of you look how and where the British fought. Anyway if we’re looking at historical debts that have been forgotten I think we should thanking those damn Ruskies over in the east for paying more than enough in their own blood.

Booker T at least is quality for saying utter shite or pissing off the big boss.

I don’t doubt that it happens. I don’t take issue with anecdotal evidence, forming political views purely around statistics is oddball behaviour.

Peppino asking for a detailed study including decibel measurements after providing a tweet to back up his own assertions is yet more top tier posting.

He isn’t Anakin Skywalker, mate. I think it was LTL on here that claimed the best chance the SNP have for independence is a soft Brexit and to this day I have absolutely no idea why that is.

Irish Catholics had quite a substantial role in the development of the Labour Party in Scotland in the early 20th century particularly after the Irish Home Rule Act effectively made the Liberal Party redundant to many Irish immigrants. Other posters probably know more about why they stayed loyal to Labour for so long after that.

It's going to be perfect. The entire crowd was yelling at Ciampa with visceral hatred. Gargano is the closest superstar they've got to Daniel Bryan circa 2014.