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That's the training kit up on the shop. https://www.motherwelldirect.co.uk/trainingwear

SFA confirm Scottish window opens today and runs until Oct 5th.

Aye, of the 52 players Robinson's signed - either permanently or on loan - only Conor Sammon (31), Ross McCormack (32) and Scott Fox (32) have been 30+ (I think). Carson and Hartley were both 29. Modern Fitba'/The Backpass Rule did an age profile graph of the squad last season (excluding loans & expiring contracts). So of the new signings/extensions O'Hara (24). Long (25), Watt (26) Lamie (27) and Dunne (27) all land in the 'Peak Years' section with Jordan White (28) at the threshold.

Aye, fwiw I was talking about the contracts/windows in general rather than specifically about the players Saints may have training. I think most English clubs have announced their retained/released lists by now so as you say I don't see why there would be an issue with an OOC player moving.

The contracts run based on dates rather than windows. It's why you've seen EPL & Championship teams getting players to sign extensions to the end of the month (or not in Ryan Fraser's case).

Wouldn't explain all 12 but it seems the English allowed the window to open for 1 day (July 1st) to let teams lodge/process paperwork. FWIW: the language we used re: O'Hara signing from Peterborough (June 24th) was incredibly vague. I suppose that would have required the Scottish FA to have mirrored the English FA in terms of registrations though.

I can't remember where I saw it - it may have been the SSN ticker - but I've a feeling 27th July was mentioned for the English window opening. It'd make sense as the EPL season finishes 26th and Championship 22nd July.

Aye he's a leftie. He's a N.I U21 international and seemed to be chipping in for the reserves before the shutdown. It's going to be a pretty tough gig for him being the manager's son though. It'd be a laugh if he turned out to be good like.

There they are...

1-0 win against Utd in the bounce game earlier. Cornelius playing right back and Donnelly at centre half 1st half it seems. Motherwell first half: Fox, Cornelius, Donnelly, Hussain, McGinley, O’Hara, Turnbull, Semple, Hastie, Seedorf, Watt. Motherwell second half: Carson, Grimshaw, Maguire, Lamie, Johnston, Campbell, Polworth, MacIver, Hylton, Robinson, White. Dundee United first half: Deniz, Robson, Connolly, Graham, Freeman, Powers, Harkes, Chalmers, Pawlett, Fotheringham, Smith. Dundee United second half: Deniz, L Smith, Neilson, Sporle, Reynolds, Davidson, King, Mochrie, Clark, Glass, Appere.

^^^ Pretty much this. He kind of threw shade at Robinson/Motherwell when he signed for Killie and IMO it probably said a lot about why he never got the chance he seemed to think he deserved. He spent years as a stand out for our 20s but bar rinsing Jim Goodwin that one time he made zero impression in the first team while his peers like Cadden, Campbell, Turnbull and Hastie - who bought into the idea of needing to "do the free stuff" - all became first team regulars. "Sizable sell-on" for us though...

That's Long got the #9 shirt back. #numberpolis

Oh... Also, Twitter needs an edit button.

Heneghan's already left Sheffield United - he's a free agent.

"mutual compensation" "sizable sell-on clause" Cheers Hibernian Football Club club.

Fwiw: I'm still bang up for us signing Lang. I agree with you that he'd be a wide option rather than a #9. It's just some shift from Robinson talking about running with a squad of 15-16 first team players to ending up with - at last count - 21. Obviously there are trade offs: Fox will presumably be on less than Gillespie, Dunne's signed a short term deal that presumably reflects his situation, Lamie and McGinley are probably covered by Tait and Hartley leaving and I'd guess all the extensions that have been signed reflect our revised budget. Still though... I wouldn't necessarily read much into the fee as an indication of anything. To me that seems far more of an opportunity cost. Our original contact seemed to be about a loan, Wigan's administration presumably put an unexpected option to buy on the table. Again, assuming all the press chat about our interest in him is accurate and the fact you've had Scott Burns running with it from our side and Nixon talking about it from a EFL side suggests there's something in it. This is where we seem to be just now (I've shoved MacIver wide right for balance):

I'd be surprised if that was the case - we seem to have made our first contact with Wigan on 17th June about a loan, Wigan went into administration 1st July and the story about us looking at a permanent deal on the 6th. So the interest has been there for a month - give or take. Given we've been back at pre-season since 15th June I don't imagine we knew he'd be signing and let Long go full Scott McDonald to just sack off pre-season. Although having said that, it's clear from Burrows' Twitter updates to fans that the negotiations with Long have been ongoing I'd like to think that we'd have factored that deal being on the table while we've been speaking to Wigan. Having said all that, we've presumably known for a couple of days since we've clearly booked ad space for the billboard graphic and delivered the creative.

There he is...

If we're including caretakers then: Kenny Black: Player (1983-84) Caretaker (2014) Stephen Craigan: Player (1995-2000, 2003-2012) Caretaker (2015)

Motherwell: George Stevenson: Player (1923-39) Manager (1946-55) Ian St John: Player (1956-61) Manager (1973-74) Bobby Watson: Player (1969-76) Manager (1983-84) Alex McLeish (player manager): Player (1994-95) Manager (1994-98) Billy Davies: Player (1993-98) Manager (1998-2001)

I agree with this. I mean I don't dislike Long but Lang looked like a totally different sort of forward to what we're used to.