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Dundee v St Mirren 23/2/22
Coventry Saint replied to Munoz's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
I had no idea St Mirren had got under your skin that badly, but fair play. -
I think it'd be reasonable to break it down like this: 1) Is there an outstanding candidate from the lower Scottish leagues or Ireland that we could look at? No in Scotland; I don't follow the Irish leagues closely enough but it's obviously a route we've gone down before. There's one guy on Twitter who keeps mentioning Healy. 2) Is there an out-of-work manager that we would actually want to employ, with a base in Scotland (ish), who would be a sensible choice? Ross was the obvious, but he's out. So... Wright? His Killie spell put me off. Lennon, Adams and Lambert I'm far from sold on. I'm struggling to think of any others. 2) Is there an out-of-work manager anywhere in Britain/Ireland who would realistically move to the central belt? Grant McCann leaps out at me, but I'm not sure if he'll move or if we could afford him. I'm not sure anyone would move in the current climate. 3) Is there anyone internally we could promote? I'd say probably not right now. 4) Are there ex-players with coaching badges who fancy the gig? Clearly: Naismith and Brown as discussed. 5) Are there external applicants that we're not aware of? Almost certainly. There was a throwaway line in a report at the weekend about us having been "inundated with CVs". Last time I heard that we employed Stubbs. The time before I heard that, we employed Craig. So I'll not hold my breath that there's a gleaming CV in the pile. When you break it down like that - and I don't think I've missed any profiles there - it's hard to envy those making the decision.
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As much as that's a nice idea, the sort of guys who fit the 'experienced number two' profile usually don't make great managers and/or don't want to be. Gary McAllister, for example, or even Tommy Craig. As for the Aberdeen compo... Brown is out injured for most the rest of the season, and Goodwin have some quotes saying he wanted him involved, while actually making it fairly clear he didn't want him involved. I'll try to dig them out. Of course, that doesn't mean Aberdeen won't be looking for compo, but they might be happy to be shot of him.
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Said several times I didn't think he'd want it. It just didn't make enough sense. He'll bide his time on his Hibs paycheque and eventually a League One side will take a punt on him. He didn't exactly fail at Sunderland or Hibs... He'll back himself to get another gig in England. Saints Twitter is a nightmare right now, mind. Bit of panic creeping in.
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Dundee v St Mirren 23/2/22
Coventry Saint replied to Munoz's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Google suggested searches kindly help fill in the blanks for those unfamiliar with Dundee's history of chronic financial mismanagement. -
Dundee v St Mirren 23/2/22
Coventry Saint replied to Munoz's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Last stab at beating Dundee for at least 18 months. Fingers crossed. -
Pal Fjelde was another. I have nearly posted something similar to @geo87a couple times... I have reservations about Ross' recruitment as well. I've not performed a thorough analysis of what he's done at Hibs and the Mackems, but something feels slightly off about it. Obviously he did sign some gems, but my doubts persist about the breadth of his network. That aside, he's still the best candidate from those linked, though as I've said Grant McCann would also be on my list. I'm also intrigued by Naismith, and would be fine with any of those three.
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The Big Relegation Thread
Coventry Saint replied to Lex's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
I'd feel harsh using that, mate. I don't think it's your best side. -
The Big Relegation Thread
Coventry Saint replied to Lex's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Yeah, need to get that sorted. Just need to find a suitable replacement. -
The Big Relegation Thread
Coventry Saint replied to Lex's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Fixed. -
Livingston v St Mirren 19/02/2022
Coventry Saint replied to Lola montez's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Looking for that nae manager bounce... -
I think your position is pertinent here Experienced guy absolutely ruining you and you have gambled (pun not intentional) on a rookie who has totally galvanized you. It might have backfired but you had to do something. It appears to have paid off and despite Morton being Morton and Imrie being a dick, I'm happy for you. We are under less pressure, for sure, and that has to be a factor. But the natives will become restless quickly, especially if we lose at Livi today. You're absolutely right, we could crawl over the line to safety this season, but that'd be devastating given the quality in our squad and the standard of the league. If Brown, for example, is going to take our job seriously (and let's face it, if he ever wants to take the Celtic job he's going to have to work his way up to it) then I'd be happy to take a punt on a rookie like him.
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I have to say, the lack of experience thing doesn't worry me too much. We typically go for up and coming managers and they rarely have more than a couple years under their belt anyway. And even then, it's been a hit and miss approach. Hendrie, Lennon, Murray, MacPherson, Rae, Ross, Goodwin, Teale were all on only their first or second jobs, with wildly mixed results. Stubbs and Craig had more experience, and they were both absolutely honking. Dundee have gone for experience - and we've seen how people feel about that. IMO, what makes him a good candidate (or not) is entirely down to attitude and potential connection with the fans. Is he going to give a shit about us as a club (or at least pretend he does?) or is he going to treat us with disdain from day one like Stubbs did? Hendrie, Ross, Goodwin and Kearney all had a great connection with the fans and really energised the club. Say what you want about their departures, but in each case they left us better off than they found us. (Arguably not Hendrie, but he did at least give us a title season and a year in the top flight). On the flip side, Craig, Stubbs and Rae in particular were absolutely tragic appointments and there was zero bond between us and them. And you can't say it was entirely down to a lack of success because Rae's rescue act in that first season was far from terrible. Gus is obviously the outlier because he delivered (relative) success without achieving that bond, so I do accept there are exceptions. But he rarely made watching St Mirren a fun experience. I'm not saying we need every manager to be a "pure St Mirren man", but I do want them to give a shit about the club and to represent us properly, and to be someone who the players will enjoy training with and be prepared to bust a gut for. I'm not saying that has to be Brown, but I'm not saying it can't be. Edit: LOL @ me and @GAD sitting typing out similar shite at 7am on. Saturday morning.