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4 hours ago, Kennie said:
I like the Junior Cup and always have, I don't hide that fact. But I am not of the same mind as some others that believe it's a showdown between the SJC and the SRCC. I believe it's time to put that idea firmly in the past and work together to allow both cups to take their place in the Football Calendar. This is not the first time I've said it and this is not the only place where I have said it.
Probably hear about it more than most since the WoSFL is the only pyramid out of the eight that has to accomodate both. The small handful of EoSFL clubs having to sort it out amongst themselves for the most part, which has led to withdrawals from the SJC.
As there's going to be changes year to year it's not going to be a talking point that goes away.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
Edinburgh City now run Craigroyston.
Is that confirmed?
What Craigroyston did had Edinburgh City youth tagged in. I haven't seen the current FC Edinburgh acknowledge it.
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To bring it on to a kind of relevant topic. None of the promotional vids for the SJC draw seems to have a sponsor.
Does that mean the two biggest non-league cups are once again starting the season without sponsorship?
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On 27/06/2023 at 19:29, Mark Connolly said:
Can't believe I hadn't seen this before
Probably because Max Landis was part of #MeToo with a massive list of abuse allegations against him.
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On 22/06/2023 at 11:47, Kennie said:
115 an increase of 7.
15 byes to Round 2.
2 minutes ago, Kennie said:Less than 24 hours to go.
97 in the First Round draw. 15 byes. Was the 115 total entrants an error?
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21 minutes ago, stanley said:
Livingston United are in the Alex Jack Cup draw. Another team to add to the loss list?
Is that just Camelon, Armadale, Bathgate, Stoneyburn, and West Calder for EoS teams?
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2 hours ago, Shanner said:
I like the SOS and always look forward to it, but there's no denying that it isn't hitting anything like its potential right now. The reasons why are likely complex, numerous, and difficult to solve but the big one for me is that the LL simply doesn't have enough in the way of traditionally well-known and well-supported sides that fans are excited about playing.
Luckily that is slowly improving with Linlithgow, Berwick Rangers, and Albion Rovers replacing a couple of more "modern" sides so we'll see how that goes, although there's always the suspicion that these sorts of sides would rather focus on getting promoted to L2 than genuinely bother their arses with any cup that doesn't hold the chance of a money spinner against a PL side.
I think the toothpaste's out the tube regardless of what comes next. Greater access to the Scottish Cup has meant that fulfills the novelty factor that holds interest in the early rounds. I don't think any cup competition can touch that engagement until around the semis when a club can see the chance of winning something.
Not helped by the growing importance of league football over the last 20 years that saw the erosion of the regions, increase to 30 game seasons and a pyramid that ties it all together.
An all-in SJC or newly minted national non-league cup won't change much. It might just hasten the decline as the 'modern' sides can compete on the pitch with the traditional clubs regardless of how they're perceived. If Drumchapel can get to the final of the SCC. They could do it in any other cup. The name on the trophy won't multiply their demand for tickets.
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18 minutes ago, HorseyGhirl said:
Quite sad all this my cups better than your cup.
Thought we are all here for the football. So because you prefer the SJC over the SRCC and vice versa. You do all you can to diss the other. There is room for both trophies to grow.
One is regional and the other is national. They should not be competing against each other for our affections.
Just My Opinion Of Course.
There isn't really. The SJC is dwindling from its past glories and arguably the SCC is at best making up the difference.
They shouldn't be competing against each other. As there should only be the one 100+ inter-league cup for non-league teams.
Competing for the same type of sponsors, and twice as many weekends being taken up by cup football instead of league fixtures isn't helping anyone.
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26 minutes ago, Ginaro said:
Extra cash? Have the rules / semi+final guarantees changed since last season?
I don't know if people are getting mixed up with the 80k proposal for the new national non-league cup that was floated, and never went anywhere.
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2 hours ago, Thejackdaw said:
Can't help but think the beauty of tournaments like this should be the prospect of playing someone different from the get go , kind of realise why they've regionalised the first few rounds to cut down in expenses but if we beat ardeer then face Clydebank in a 50/50 then can't help but feel it's just like a West of Scotland cup, start with a new name like the Scottish non league vase /cup and chase sponsorship and do this cup properly and it could be a winner .
With 80 out of the 160+ teams it would feel like a WoSFL Cup regardless.
Teams in the SW/NE get the best mix of leagues SW = 27/40 west teams, NE = 13/40 west teams. NW is basically a west section with 40/41. SE having none.
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8 minutes ago, PossilYM said:
Believe the regional part was to cut costs especially as there was no help with travel.
6 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:They should make it voluntary then. Works for the Scottish Junior Cup.
There is help with travel. It comes from the competition committee rather than the gate or the home team having to cover the guarantee.
It's regionalised to help minimise the costs.
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7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
How long are they planning to rip the arse out of that? My decision to watch it will likely depend on that answer.
Only 6 episodes. No clue if they're doing more than one season. Doubt they know for sure until they see the reaction.
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3 hours ago, searchers1963 said:
Where did u get that. South Challenge Cup social media has nothing
The materials will have been sent to the clubs. That might have been lifted from Rutherglen Glencairn's post.
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On 17/06/2023 at 13:14, lowenan said:
Will it be the same teams back this season?
Conference A for 2022-23
- Cumbernauld Colts
- Open Goal Broomhill
- Spartans
- University of Stirling
- East Kilbride
- Alloa Athletic
- FC Edinburgh
- Kelty Hearts
- East Fife
- Stirling Albion
- Bonnyrigg Rose
- Civil Service Strollers
In other Conferences there were Edinburgh University, Tranent, and Linlthgow Rose.None of these clubs appear to be in the East or West Development league listings. Those 15 are at least possibilities. Haven't seen anything from the Lowland Development league confirming the make up for this season.
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Rounded down across the board. Since B teams don't count in the final table. they're not included here
1 Linlithgow Rose Premier 517 2 Tranent Juniors Lowland 488 3 Broomhill Lowland 439 4 Berwick Rangers Lowland 375 5 The Spartans Lowland 312 6 Bo'ness United Lowland 298 7 Dunbar United First 294 8 Haddington Athletic Premier 258 9 Musselburgh Athletic Premier 248 10 Cowdenbeath Lowland 247 11 Armadale Thistle Third 244 12 East Kilbride Lowland 233 13 Gala Fairydean Rovers Lowland 223 14 Whitburn Second 203 15 Broxburn Athletic Premier 195 16 Penicuik Athletic Premier 194 17 Sauchie Juniors Premier 175 18 East Stirlingshire Lowland 164 19 Gretna 2008 Lowland 161 20 Cumbernauld Colts Lowland 160 21 Hill of Beath Hawthorn Premier 154 22 Dundonald Bluebell Premier 152 23 Crossgates Primrose Premier 149 24 St Andrews United Second 149 25 Dalbeattie Star Lowland 141 26 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Premier 140 27 Glenrothes First 140 28 Caledonian Braves Lowland 137 29 Camelon Juniors First 129 30 Tynecastle Premier 128 31 Newtongrange Star First 127 32 Arniston Rangers Second 125 33 Civil Service Strollers Lowland 124 34 University of Stirling Lowland 124 35 Harthill Royal Third 123 36 Jeanfield Swifts Premier 122 37 Bo'ness Athletic Third 122 38 Edinburgh University Lowland 121 39 Oakley United Premier 115 40 Dunipace First 110* 41 Kirkcaldy & Dysart First 110 42 Coldstream First 109 43 Burntisland Shipyard First 107 44 Leith Athletic First 105 45 Fauldhouse United Third 101 46 Preston Athletic First 100 47 Blackburn United Premier 99 48 West Calder United Third 96 49 Lochore Welfare First 90 50 Kinnoull First 87 51 Dalkeith Thistle Second 87 52 Lothian Thistle HV Premier 86 53 Whitehill Welfare First 86 54 Bathgate Thistle Third 83 55 Thornton Hibs Second 82 56 Stoneyburn Third 80 57 Vale of Leithen Premier 75 58 Livingston United Third 75 59 Rosyth First 74 60 Edinburgh United Second 70 61 Tweedmouth Rangers Second 69 62 Easthouses Lily MW Second 68 63 Pumpherston Juniors Third 68 64 Peebles Rovers Second 63 65 Kennoway Star Hearts First 62 66 Edinburgh South Second 56 67 Hawick Royal Albert Second 55 68 Lochgelly Albert Second 55 69 Ormiston Primrose Second 55 70 Luncarty First 51 71 Heriot-Watt University Second 51 72 Craigroyston Second 50 73 Newburgh Second 49 74 Stirling University Reserves Second 49 75 Edinburgh College Third 45 2 -
3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:
Why is Rampage still a thing?
Why not?
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8 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:
Haha. It must be murder for the boys posting things like this. There's always someone waiting to point out a mistake.
It's not exactly a mistake 50+ teams. Annan catches the eye because it was the 1st name in Conference A and then the 1st name of Section 1. It's easy to get lost in a sea of badges.
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32 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
With Annan in the division assume that means a team from above the WOSL can opt for the West development league if suits them better than the LL Development league?
You missed Dumbarton as well.
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Dead City, the Negan & Maggie spin-off debuted last Sunday. Looks to have gone completely unnoticed. There's two episodes out there now. Think i'll just wait until the end of July when it can be binged.
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10 minutes ago, Shannon said:
About 90-95% of teams in the West compete in the Junior Cup anyway.
17 in the Strathclyde Cup. Not sure how many SFA members not in the SJFA just now. Nowhere near 90% participation.
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The SJFA are very lucky to have such support. If only the WoSFL had someone going out of their way to promote their own competitions.
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6 minutes ago, Kennie said:
By the way, that's me off again.
Only came on to annoy certain folk.
Task completed. Bye for now.
It showed.
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35 minutes ago, BANKIEBILL said:
Hi ... just checked and yer right - none of them seem to use Palmerston. Remember a few years back doing a bit of analysis of travel times to and from SOS teams and I'm sure there were at least 2 used Palmerston but it's a while ago so could be wrong.
Thanks for your reply
Heston Rovers have been the only ones using Palmerston as their home ground recently. As a venue it has occasionally been subbed in to get some games played.
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Lowland League predictions 23/24
in Lowland League
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If you want to go by those rankings.
Edinburgh Uni 2420pts
Lowest points tally of a EoS Premier team 2451
And would have them bottom half of EoS First.
I don't think anyone would have them falling like a stone like VoL or Hawick. Pre-LL Edinburgh Uni could be a decent EoS Premier by the standard of the time. But that basically puts them in a modern day EoS First Division team. That might have a good season and end up in the EoS Premier or a bad one and end up in the Second.