Les Cabbage
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5 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:
I’d be giving Hanlon the reminder of games this season to start over Fish.
Should have happened the minute Rocky came back from AFCON.
Worrying that the managers in the press saying he’s wanting to keep him.
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Will Fish culpable for another two goals, why do Hibs fans not hound the useless c**t like they do with Rocky after a mistake?
An absolute abomination of a centre half.
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Probably should have added another tier inbetween dislike and hate for my disdain of the old firm.
Cove/Peterhead/Elgin default to no opinion as they’re the only grounds I’ve not been.
Airdrie probably should be lower but since we sent them half our youth team I can’t help but take an interest in them and want them to succeed.
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11 hours ago, HibsFan said:
So yes, my story with taking action against VAR is pretty much entirely concentrated to 2022, when it was being floated, voted on and eventually implemented.
Sent this email* to Hibs in April of that year and got nothing back at first. A snippet of the closing paragraphs below:
*not posting the whole thing as a lot of it was just moaning at the club.
Note on my boycott threat: due to personal circumstances I actually haven't been able to attend a game anyway since writing that email, so I've followed through on withholding my money from Hibs even if it hasn't been done purely on moral grounds.
After VAR was introduced in October 2022, I went back to the email and realised that I had forgotten to include the SLO's email address and re-sent it (with some additional comments). To paraphrase, the SLO's reply was along the lines of:
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We were the last major league in Europe to introduce it so we could avoid some of the teething errors (
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- Correct decision-making will help Scottish football to move forward and align us with counterparts in other countries
- There will still always be incidents, VAR can't resolve everything
- VAR in Scotland wouldn't have been stopped if Hibs fans had been consulted
- However I've passed on your feedback about supporters being consulted on issues such as this going forwards
Anyway, I didn't bother replying and the post from V.G. jogged my memory that I had actually done it in the first place.
Since then, I have mainly resorted to despairing and/or sniping from the sidelines. Is it petty? Definitely. Is it pleasing feeling entirely fucking vindicated by what I wrote in April 2022? Also yes. For people saying "oh how could we have seen what VAR would bring?", here's what I and many others were saying before the clubs had even voted:
But V.G.'s post was exactly the shot in the arm I needed to remember what (admittedly little) I can do to try and turn the tide back in the favour of Scottish football fans who are sick and tired of VAR. I know that I am not alone in feeling like this, social media and forums such as this are awash with punters who would happily see the whole thing binned off.
So, inspired by the above, I will be taking at least three of those four steps - currently being out of the country limits my chances of being able to call in to Sportsound any time soon - and I would implore others to do the same.
The one thing I refuse to accept is that this is the status quo and there's no point complaining about it, we might as well get used to it. There are countless examples of the exact opposite of that sentiment being true, and if we can't overturn VAR completely we can at least make people in charge of it feel a lot less comfortable and smug about their pet project of sacrificing football fans on the altar of 'getting decisions correct'.
Again, this thread is not for debating the merits of VAR. It's not for discussing any past, recent or future decisions made by VAR. It's not for suggesting alternatives to VAR. It's not for pondering whether it's the referees at fault rather than the technology.
It's not for anybody other than those who feel the same as I do and want to discuss how we can take action, whatever your club may be. Three of the posters I agree with most on this issue (@VincentGuerin, @Dons_1988 and @AJF) support three of the four clubs I like the least in Scotland; it goes beyond any rivalries you may have.
I know that there are people all across Scotland who just want to get back to attending a version of football that felt vaguely exciting and enjoyable.
It sounds like we had a fairly similar experience.
I emailed our SLO when the idea was mooted in October 2021, I got no response and 6 months later Hibs released a statement saying they strongly supported the introduction of VAR, our at the time manager Shaun Maloney was also moaning about the lack of it in the press.
I got no response and after a VAR decision went against us I sent another email, probably in a bit of a mood so I could have worded it better with a clear head but like yourself I was utterly bemused by the running of the club and wanted to let off steam.
This time I copied in the CEO, in fairness I did get a response back but the email didn’t address my issues really and also did contain a bit which completely contradicts the clubs position and to be honest I felt it was just lip service to a unhappy customer.
Obviously Ron Gordon is mentioned in this but this was sent long before his passing.The CEO did offer a phone call to discuss it which I declined, I didn’t think it was going to achieve anything to take it any further at the time.
I’m happy to contact the club again regarding my views on the matter, I don’t think I would withdraw financial support mind you, going to the football for me isn’t about supporting the club as much as it is the chance to see friends and have a laugh and that’s not something I’d want to give up.
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We were the last major league in Europe to introduce it so we could avoid some of the teething errors (
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3 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:
100% should be offered a new deal at end of season.
Would also like to see us sign Marcondes, Maolida and Nector on permanent deals.
Would love to keep them but can’t see it, with the caveat that Triantis isn’t allowed in his own penalty box under any circumstances.
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Adam Le Fondre surely has to be our starting #9 going forward? Does far more than Vente.
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2 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said:
No I come on here, get abuse from tin foil twats like you and respond by cordially inviting you to fully get to **** and give us all peace from your relentless 'refs have it in for us' conspiracy shite. No wonder you think I'm condescending, look at what ****ing passes for analysis from you FFS!!
If you think a moan about a refereeing decision and a complaint about a shite defender costing us a goal is an attempt at “analysis” then you take life way to seriously.
If it’s all Hibs supporters fault for everything bad that happens like you suggest maybe you should simply stop being one of them.
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2 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said:
There's no such thing as a gimme for Hibs.
Officials can't score goals. We defend that properly or even demonstrate a semblance of game management and we don't have that problem. Absolute bottle jobs - Expert+ Level.
What is your point caller?
I have slated Will Fish and his piss poor defending.
Do you just exist on this forum to be a condescending w**k or do you just come on here to avoid arguing with your reflection?
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8 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said:
...anyway....
We know the officials are going to be shite before we start. Perhaps we could see our way clear to playing like professional footballers for a full match once in a while though given that's what cost us (AGAIN) tonight.
Assuming you just ignored my point about the footballing disaster that is Will Fish and him being allover the place for yet another goal then?
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7 minutes ago, Leith Green said:
Nope. Managers first half formation cost us the points tonight.
Can't really complain about the time when we defend like that, and Youan doesn't track his man.
Complaint is nothing to do with the time, the complaint is with the fact County scored directly from a throw in where the ball was headed out of play by a County player.
I am no Montgomery fan by any stretch and we were shite tonight but that’s yet another time where refereeing mistakes have cost us.
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Yet another game where the officials have cost us points, incredible
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How the f**k Fish never got that off the line is beyond me, utter joke of a defender, must have single handedly cost us 10 points this season with goals he’s been to blame for.
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How grimly predictable, we are always utterly shite when we play up in Dingwall midweek, we’ve only lost up there once when it’s not been played midweek.
Jordan Obita is a fucking brutal footballer, genuinely would play Stevenson.
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1 hour ago, Crùbag said:
Well, that went well, eh?
Obita was rank rotten from the early stages and could've got a second yellow on more than one occasion before the final, and rather soft, offence.
The 2nd red was harsh but understandable these days. Dive in with two feet like that and the chances are you'll see a red, esp if you're playing against one of the Butt Cheeks.
Monty's subs are baffling. At Tynecastle, he put on a CB when Hibs were/ should have been looking to win the game against a Hearts side that had barely turned up. Wonder if there are other people with interests at other clubs pulling the strings?
Considering we only have one player on loan from Bournemouth and he’s been one of our best players we’ve had in the past few years this is quite a reach.
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1 hour ago, tamthebam said:
I think there's a conspiracy against teams from East Edinburgh- City have had more that a few dodgy decisions go against them too.
Damn those West Edinburgh Masonic Spartans and Hearts gits!
Now you mention it, the 2 Edinburgh clubs that love the Conservative & Unionist party getting decisions from a group of people that contain the leader of said party in Scotland
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Rangers & Celtic clearly have links to the party too
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I usually try and be quite reasoned and understanding with referees, I have a colleague that does it and know it’s a hard job.
However, this is happening too often for it to be a coincidence.
The non-penalty against Aberdeen, Hearts’ ghost penalty, Celtic’s two nonsense penalties plus Boyle’s “dive” and now this, you’ve got to laugh.
I’m not suggesting there’s a conspiracy or an agenda against Hibs however some referees clearly have a dislike for Hibs or there must be something because for this to happen to us so often in a short space of time is beyond thinking, I don’t think there’s ever been a period of time following football where we’ve been on the wrong end of so many consecutive high profile decisions.
Just like all the games I mentioned we were the better team and worthy of winning, but once again we have our hand tied behind our back by those incompetent b*****ds.
Remember folk thought VAR would sort this out?
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On 28/02/2024 at 17:59, archieduke said:
No word on Poland, but Croatia have announced that our game is in Zagreb.
Saw that last week, booked up for a few days in Split before travelling up to Zagreb on the Friday night.
Wasn’t massively impressed with Zagreb when I went however have been to Zadar and it was unbelievable, Split is just down the coast so it’ll be good to see somewhere new.
Suspect the weather will be better in Split too.
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Bizarrely the 3 matches against Dundee have probably been our best 3 performances under Montgomery, even the 0-0 game we should have been out of sight.
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On 24/02/2024 at 19:36, Leith Green said:
All the shares are being diluted but nobody is losing any money.
Lets be honest, HSL (I am a full member and contribute monthly) wasnt allowed to buy more shares already, so its not like theres some step change there either.
HSL’s are being reduced a lot more than the Gordon’s in terms of proportions.
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Can understand HSLs vote in honesty, they’re being fucked over with this and their already diluted share is being majorly reduced whereas the Gordon’s isn’t.
I would certainly rather HSL retained more shares than the Gordon’s.
Plus under the current regime we’re just pissing away money for no success, time will tell if Foleys money improves anything but I don’t trust the people in charge at the moment to use it wisely.
We’ve a far bigger budget than Kilmarnock, Dundee & St Mirren yet being outperformed by them this season due to these idiots so my faith that this will change anything unless changes are made in the boardroom is non existent.
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Anyone got any idea when we’re likely to hear the venues for Croatia/Poland?
Looking to get flights booked before prices fly up (pardon the pun) and it’s proving difficult to ensure we leave enough time to potentially get from one end of the country to another for a flight home.
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P&B’s very own good guy/w**k indicator.
Mods can we use peoples’ votes on this to determine whether they’re a good guy or not and put little icons at the corner of each person’s avatar?
I’ve gone beyond reasoning with people that like VAR, I’ve come across a few in real life, they’re simply people that are no fun to be around and think football is a science rather than entertainment.
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21 hours ago, Ro Sham Bo said:
Yeah he's Hibs daft.
Unfortunately 4 ACLs have probably put paid to any chance he had of playing for them.
He’d have been a level above us if it hadn’t been for injuries I reckon, superb player even with them.
A massive Hibs fan aswell like you say.
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17 hours ago, PB1994 said:
No, it won’t be. We don’t do streaming.
Ah well, probably helps with my life expectancy I suppose
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Anyone any idea if this game is to be streamed for any individuals that will be watching from….outwith the UK?……
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Hibs v St.Johnstone
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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The winds are absolutely hammering it down in Leith, think my flat is away to blow over.
Potentially season defining today, a Craig Leven 1-0 shitfest seems to blindingly obvious.