The Moonster Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Go ahead. They already think that. 33 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It seems that ship has already sailed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 25/08/2021 at 14:57, Bairnardo said: Has anyone taken action on the interlinked smoke alarms thing yet? I have 2 that are mains powered, I guess I need to replace them with mains powered interlinked ones, and get a further (ideally battery powered to avoid having to get a sparky in) one interlinked in the living room.... Anyone know of decent priced brands, or companies that come in and get your house compliant with the new laws for a reasonable price? Hide contents No, not Grimbo This is probably a daft question but how do you tell if they are interlinked, should testing one set them all off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Random question - what is the most accurate weather app? Ive used the BBC one for years but it’s a bit of a miss at times. Is the met office one better? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Random question - what is the most accurate weather app? Ive used the BBC one for years but it’s a bit of a miss at times. Is the met office one better? TWRM (Tomorrow.io) is pretty good and in my experience fairly accurate in predicting precipitation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur daley Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Moonster said: Cheers, I'll maybe refrain from cameras if it's going to make my neighbours think I'm a nonce. Joking aside ,if it was a small enough camera and attached to you property you could put a small camera up and the standard small warning sticker in your window ,would be nothing to stop you putting a separate camera hidden pointing towards where you normally park your car ,if any neighbours say anything tell them your catching the cunto that’s keying your car and “”why do you know anything about it ??” Expect to see you in the evil neighbours thread soon . Edited August 31, 2021 by Arthur daley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxo Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: Firstly, I'm not a Building Standards Officer, so don't take my advice as gospel! Whilst I had specifically stated that I had installed the new interlinked alarm system as part of renovations to my existing property (which is not a new build), I would point out that The Housing (Scotland) Act 1987 (Tolerable Standard) (Extension of Criteria) Order 2019 states: Tolerable standard: extension of criteria 2. In section 86(1) of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987 (definition of house meeting tolerable standard), after paragraph (i) insert— “(j)has satisfactory equipment installed for detecting, and for giving warning of, fire or suspected fire; (k)has satisfactory equipment installed for detecting, and for giving warning of, carbon monoxide present in a concentration that is hazardous to health,”. I'm not aware of any other legislation that covers this point. Guidance in a technical handbook is not normally equivalent to legislation. This new legislative requirement & the guidance I linked to above appear to be silent on new builds. What it does say is that New home extensions and building regulation requirements While building regulations recommend mains operated devices with battery back-up for building work in certain circumstances, tamper proof long-life lithium battery operated devices may be the preferred option for home owners." (My emphasis on "recommend") However, I'll happily concede the point if you can show me some legislation that demands hard-wiring in new builds. All I care about is that my home will be compliant when (if?) the new regulatory requirements come into force. See the quote from the 2019 Order above. That's the bit that will have the force of law IF it is enacted as planned. It's already been postponed once. The guidance I previously linked to states "As this will be a minimum standard for safe houses, local authorities could use their statutory powers to require owners to carry out work on substandard housing, although we would expect any intervention to be proportionate." I expect that your local Building Standards Officer at the council would be tasked with enforcement, so I would speak to them if you want up-to-date correct information. The applicable legislation for new build is the Building (Scotland) Act 2003. The Scottish Government Building Standards Division publish a document titled the Domestic Technical Handbook (referred to by many as 'the building regs') which provides a route to compliance with the mandatory standards in the legislation. Section 2.11.1 of the 2020 handbook states: "in order to provide a fire detection and fire alarm system that should alert occupants to the outbreak of fire, a Grade D system should be installed in all dwellings" I can tell you from experience that every new build domestic property is provided with at least an LD2, grade D fire detection and alarm system and that's been the case for many years. Grade D means interlinked mains powered fire detectors with battery backup. Conversions, extensions and the like will be judged on their own merit but usually wouldn't be expected to be brought up to full compliance with current standards, unless the work is particularly extensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, 101 said: This is probably a daft question but how do you tell if they are interlinked, should testing one set them all off? Yeah thats what they mean by interlinked. Detection of smoke/heat on any one alarm sets all alarms off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: TWRM (Tomorrow.io) is pretty good and in my experience fairly accurate in predicting precipitation. I go with the Met Office and it's usually on the money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Arthur daley said: Joking aside ,if it was a small enough camera and attached to you property you could put a small camera up and the standard small warning sticker in your window ,would be nothing to stop you putting a separate camera hidden pointing towards where you normally park your car ,if any neighbours say anything tell them your catching the cunto that’s keying your car and “”why do you know anything about it ??” Expect to see you in the evil neighbours thread soon . Be careful - upskirt filming is a specific offence. I'm told. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur daley Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, GordonD said: Be careful - upskirt filming is a specific offence. I'm told. Good to know thanks for the information, il just dig out my “mirror shoes “ then instead . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Yeah thats what they mean by interlinked. Detection of smoke/heat on any one alarm sets all alarms off Yeh I wasn't sure if testing then meant they all should go off. But grand I thought I was ready for the change but will need to get it sorted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Random question - what is the most accurate weather app? Ive used the BBC one for years but it’s a bit of a miss at times. Is the met office one better? I use weather underground ten day forecast. Mainly because the data is presented in a much more useful way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Favourite White Zombie sing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Favourite White Zombie sing? Thunder Kiss 65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 hours ago, GordonD said: Be careful - upskirt filming is a specific offence. I'm told. I won’t be making that mistake for a fifth time, thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Bert Raccoon said: Thunder Kiss 65 Correct. I would have also accepted Blood, Milk and Sky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 25/08/2021 at 15:01, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: I'm looking at this and reckon I'll opt for FireAngel, available through Screwfix amongst others. For Homeowners | FireAngel Found this for folk that are interested. Quote Please note: the Nest Protect System will not meet the standard. This is because they do not meet the requirements for a heat alarm under the relevant British Standard. British Standard (BS 5839-6:2019) makes it clear that only heat alarms should be installed in kitchens. Fire and smoke alarms: changes to the law - gov.scot (www.gov.scot) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1. Do people rate topics on here? 2. If so, why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: 1. Do people rate topics on here? 2. If so, why? 1) I don't 2) because they're twats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 31/08/2021 at 05:58, Mr. Alli said: Perfectly legal but you need to sign post that you have a camera - I've had the exact same problem with a neighbour having cameras all over the place. His argument was kids were being arseholes. My argument was perhaps he shouldn't be threatening ten year old children. Long story short, he phoned the Polis and they says as long as he shows signs then he can be a creepy bastirt all he likes. Sort of... If the footage captures the public street then they need to comply with GPDR regulations. I doubt plod told you this as they try and breach them all the time where I work. You could, if you were so minded, be a pain about it and make regular Subject Access Requests ie ask for copies of all footage he holds of you and your children - you can do this verbally. He has one month to comply. You can also ask he deletes all images of you and your children. Again, unless being held for a specific reason, he has one month to comply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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