Ravingrover Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Raithie said: I’ve heard he didn’t even make it to Spain hence why he’s with us for another week. A naughty boy he has been. Or not http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10490 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hopefully by the time the Montrose game has come round Hibs will have decided he'd be better served coming back to us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilted John Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I’ve heard he didn’t even make it to Spain hence why he’s with us for another week. A naughty boy he has been.I’m embarrassed for you... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Raithie said: I’ve heard he didn’t even make it to Spain hence why he’s with us for another week. A naughty boy he has been. I heard the same. Leathered a boy outside the Tropicana on Saturday after the Peterhead game, then got into a scrap with a bouncer in Bentleys after trying to goose his burd. It's a fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastie Russell Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said: I heard the same. Leathered a boy outside the Tropicana on Saturday after the Peterhead game, then got into a scrap with a bouncer in Bentleys after trying to goose his burd. It's a fact. I miss Shaun Dennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I heard the same. Leathered a boy outside the Tropicana on Saturday after the Peterhead game, then got into a scrap with a bouncer in Bentleys after trying to goose his burd. It's a fact. You’re not far wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 03/01/2020 at 12:43, Michael W said: Edit: bottom line - we need to get promoted. I can't see how that gap can possibly be closed in this league even if we went fully PT. Pay less in wages? Dunfermline were able to post a profit at this level. Considering the moral high ground Raith fans like to take with regards to finances I'm surprised they're being so blasé about their financial results. On 03/01/2020 at 19:40, Broken Algorithms said: The wee derby doesn't have the same level of scenes as the Big Fife Derby... The next one at EEP after that was a cracker. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Pay less in wages? Dunfermline were able to post a profit at this level. Considering the moral high ground Raith fans like to take with regards to finances I'm surprised they're being so blasé about their financial results. Aye well hopefully yous'll keep yer heads above water next season too when the Craw leads you to relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Grant228 said: Pay less in wages? Dunfermline were able to post a profit at this level. I'm quite sure if we offered our suppliers, staff and assorted creditors zero pence in the pound, and they accepted, we'd make a profit in this league as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The next one at EEP after that was a cracker. Pipe down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, grumswall said: Pipe down. Meh. You know just as much as I do what means more champ, you have Raith fans posting a draw from that season due to the great feeling they had. Can you imagine how it must have felt to wrap the championship up at a sold out Fife Derby with a second half comeback? Some don't have too. You can have a Scottish Cup fourth round tie xoxo 6 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said: I'm quite sure if we offered our suppliers, staff and assorted creditors zero pence in the pound, and they accepted, we'd make a profit in this league as well. That makes literally no sense. 42 minutes ago, Scottydog said: Aye well hopefully yous'll keep yer heads above water next season too when the Craw leads you to relegation. Doubt that's going to happen tbh. Probably the best chance of a league game Fife Derby sometime soon right enough. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Doubt that's going to happen tbh. Probably the best chance of a league game Fife Derby sometime soon right enough. After looking at your financials for 2018 (2019 not yet published), I find it amusing that you see fit to belittle Raith. The first full year out of Administration (2015) you lost a bit over three hundred and thirty thousand pounds...the next year it’s about fifty six thousand quid in the bin, despite your management calling it a profitable year...with promotion to the Championship, your books finally reflect a small profit. So, the pot calling the kettle black here is missing the simple fact that Raith avoided Administration when conducting their community funding over a decade ago, unlike the Pars. The resultant debt service and load is an obvious factor in profitability, but from a supporter of a club that washed that responsibility away and now crows about profit, I would expect no less than ignoring that fact. Now toodle along, laddie, yer mum’s calling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, TxRover said: After looking at your financials for 2018 (2019 not yet published), I find it amusing that you see fit to belittle Raith. Do you? You won't find a pars fan anywhere who will claim that we're the pinnacle of financial management, however you'll find plenty(well, a wee amount) of Raith fans happy to give plenty of advice about how Dunfermline should be living within there means, how they shouldn't overspend, etc, etc, etc. And yet here we are, how much have you lost in the past three years? It's utter head in the sand stuff in this thread, you have people talking about seriously trying to sing Louis Longridge when you're not even sustainable in your current guise! It's fucking mental. Good luck to ya, if it makes your accounts look easier on the eye then certainly cast yours over how shite ours used to be, that certainly didn't end up in a laughing matter. If you're lucky we'll toddle along the road and prop you up with the black and white pound when it all goes to shit, we've been there before, we know how to get out. Certainly the first step isn't burying your head in the sand and thinking it's going to be OK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I take no notice from fans of a club who were happy to screw over all small businesses and give them virtually nothing when they went into administration. Remember though it was only the chairmans fault and nobody else's. He put them millions of pounds in debt. Edited January 7, 2020 by raith1974 Error 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaithTheRover Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Can’t believe Dunfermline fans are ripping us over finances. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Can’t believe Dunfermline fans are ripping us over finances. Tade and baird up front in this league? Hand us the Scottish Cup right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CALDERON Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Grant228 said: Do you? You won't find a pars fan anywhere who will claim that we're the pinnacle of financial management, however you'll find plenty(well, a wee amount) of Raith fans happy to give plenty of advice about how Dunfermline should be living within there means, how they shouldn't overspend, etc, etc, etc. And yet here we are, how much have you lost in the past three years? It's utter head in the sand stuff in this thread, you have people talking about seriously trying to sing Louis Longridge when you're not even sustainable in your current guise! It's fucking mental. Good luck to ya, if it makes your accounts look easier on the eye then certainly cast yours over how shite ours used to be, that certainly didn't end up in a laughing matter. If you're lucky we'll toddle along the road and prop you up with the black and white pound when it all goes to shit, we've been there before, we know how to get out. Certainly the first step isn't burying your head in the sand and thinking it's going to be OK. Don't think anyone is burying their head in the sand. It's pretty much universally recognised that the numbers don't make good reading. However, it's a good chunk reduced from how it was the year previously. It's a step in the right direction, and doesn't include this season where the club have reduced the playing budget further and incorporated a part time element. We were never really in a title race last season, so every home league game from Jan onwards was a nothing game. Whilst Starks Park will never be filled to the rafters, an extra few hundred fans through the gate if the team are going for the title will help. I would imagine that going totally part time alone wouldn't make enough of a chunk in the deficit. Its also a far too simplistic view. A totally part time Rovers side would likely be pretty shite, meaning gates would be lower etc. Granted, another season in this league would mean we have to look at additional ways of trimming costs. The club are trying to address it. The best and most obvious route to help the situation is by winning promotion which leads to higher gates and greater prize money. The club have tried to maintain a competitive squad whilst reducing the costs, and have released initiatives such as the players fund which has almost £5k per month. Add to that a new hospitality/sponsorship lounge and a range of Cup anniversary merchandise that sold out very quickly. Nobody at Raith Rovers are sitting on their hands hoping this will go away. The harsh reality is that the club need promotion, and are trying to achieve that in a measured way. It's not burying head in sand. Its a complex situation that has no easy answer, but steps are being taken and there at least some small signs its moving in the right direction. Edited January 7, 2020 by CALDERON 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilted John Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Don't think anyone is burying their head in the sand. It's pretty much universally recognised that the numbers don't make good reading. However, it's a good chunk reduced from how it was the year previously. It's a step in the right direction, and doesn't include this season where the club have reduced the playing budget further and incorporated a part time element. We were never really in a title race last season, so every home league game from Jan onwards was a nothing game. Whilst Starks Park will never be filled to the rafters, an extra few hundred fans through the gate if the team are going for the title will help. I would imagine that going totally part time alone wouldn't make enough of a chunk in the deficit. Its also a far too simplistic view. A totally part time Rovers side would likely be pretty shite, meaning gates would be lower etc. Granted, another season in this league would mean we have to look at additional ways of trimming costs. The club are trying to address it. The best and most obvious route to help the situation is by winning promotion which leads to higher gates and greater prize money. The club have tried to maintain a competitive squad whilst reducing the costs, and have released initiatives such as the players fund which has almost £5k per month. Add to that a new hospitality/sponsorship lounge and a range of Cup anniversary merchandise that sold out very quickly. Nobody at Raith Rovers are sitting on their hands hoping this will go away. The harsh reality is that the club need promotion, and are trying to achieve that in a measured way. It's not burying head in sand. Its a complex situation that has no easy answer, but steps are being taken and there at least some small signs its moving in the right direction. Excellent post! [emoji122] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 hours ago, RaithTheRover said: Can’t believe Dunfermline fans are ripping us over finances. You couldn't paint a red neck on those c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Grant228 said: Pay less in wages? Dunfermline were able to post a profit at this level. Considering the moral high ground Raith fans like to take with regards to finances I'm surprised they're being so blasé about their financial results. If we paid less in wages we'd be going part-time anyway. We had this issue last season where players were opting for PT because we couldn't pay them enough to make it worth their while in full-time football . Consequence of being where we are, and we at least addressed that this year by bringing in some player on part-time deals. Hopefully that helps to reduce our costs too. I am not happy at all with our finances - I have no idea what the tolerance for losses being covered is, and it is clear that yet another season in this league will be a disaster. We are not in a good position at all. In terms of how this position will improve? That remains to be seen. I don't anticipate us sacking McGlynn and we also have the supporter's fund chipping in so that should help us out. The rest is ultimately dependent on how good our attendance forecasting was against the budget set. On the downside, we will get put out the cup by Livi in front of 1200 people rather than Hibs, so we will miss that boost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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