SaltyTON Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) Maths - little or no practical use??? Oh, and if your degree is so good, why did you need 3? Three degrees? Should you not have a PhD by now? Final thing... Name one. Not a use for maths, of course Maths is useful - the degree we are talking about. Oh and: the RSC changed my course for "accreditation" purposes on the first adding much more chemistry than was originally in the final year, didn't enjoy the second and lost will to care about the subject when I finished, and don't want to do continue at uni! If you can find somewhere that I said my degree was "so good" let me know! EDIT: That's purely at you, not Gaz. Edited August 30, 2011 by SaltyTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Final thing... Name one. Not a use for maths, of course Maths is useful - the degree we are talking about. Modelling disease / population control 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Programming of logic circuits for computer chips 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 No idea what DTF stands for but im guessing its the same thing im hoping for. Haha This is what it means, son. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DTF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Ensuring that your login information on internet banking is coded and encrypted and not viewable to any Tom, Dick or Harry browsing the same site at the same time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTON Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Modelling disease / population control Do you really need the degree for that though? Definitely an important use for Maths, but for the degree? I see you've posted again, but again the degree wouldn't be necessary to work as a programmer - a computing one probably would be though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Final thing... Name one. Not a use for maths, of course Maths is useful - the degree we are talking about. Oh and: the RSC changed my course for "accreditation" purposes on the first adding much more chemistry than was originally in the final year, didn't enjoy the second and lost will to care about the subject when I finished, and don't want to do continue at uni! If you can find somewhere that I said my degree was "so good" let me know! You do have a bit of form for this though, you frequently have a go at things you don't know about and terms. The three that come to mind right now are this, marking schemes, and class prizes. You give out insults frequently, so you can't expect to be surprised or hurt when you receive them back. And a maths degree is useful for mathematical fields. A lot of research, both industrial or not consists of building mathematical models. So, for example, modelling the life cycle of fish and developing scenarios to handle disease outbreaks, taking in cancer data and using it to predict symptoms for patients undergoing chemo, or perhaps building mathematical models to calculate potential scenarios, such as predicting hurricane damage, factoring in things like time, preparations, weather, tide etc. When scenarios are predicted, do you think people pluck them out of the air? No, mathematicians build extremely sophisticated models, and where do you think they learn the mathematics and the techniques? A degree in the humanities? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrysnotter Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Just had my mid-evening nap, gutted I missed the university wars, or rather Salty v the rest. Strathclyde library currently open 8 hours a day, Glasgow library currently open 19 hours a day. Library opening hours are a good indication of an institution's commitment to its students. Can you tell I've not been impressed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Just had my mid-evening nap, gutted I missed the university wars, or rather Salty v the rest. Strathclyde library currently open 8 hours a day, Glasgow library currently open 19 hours a day. Library opening hours are a good indication of an institution's commitment to its students. Can you tell I've not been impressed? Despite Glasgow's near round-the-clock library service, I'm ashamed to say that during the exam diet in May I once ended up waiting over half an hour before the porter would open up and let me in... there have been few moments in my life when I've felt more pathetic than being turned away by a library at 6:30am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 If failing on the internet was a degree, Salty would have that first he so long desired. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordieBoy80 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I tried all day to get throught to SAAS for my son and never even got put on hold just a message saying try later Give them a hard time on Facebook Keith, worked for me last year and absolutely no issues with my funding this year, everything in place well before the course starts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Sorry for using the term "junior honours" folks. It won't happen again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Do you really need the degree for that though? Definitely an important use for Maths, but for the degree? I see you've posted again, but again the degree wouldn't be necessary to work as a programmer - a computing one probably would be though! Vast tracts of mathematics have been described completely in isolation to the applications that eventually uses them. From classical euclidean geometries comes pythagoras' theorem, a relatively inane piece of numbers theory until applied to vector theory, when it becomes the keystone of pretty much all mechanics and electromagnetics. Or Einstein's theory of relativity which would have remained an unproven notion but not for Reimann tensor theory, developed by a German mathematician 60 years before Einstein, as a means of unifying higher dimensions in non euclidean space, a completely obscure piece of work by the time of Einstein and developed with no practical application. Or Alan Turing who developed the universal laws of logic twenty years before engineers devleoped a machine that would actually need them. Pure mathematics is highly sought after and massively important. Mathematicians and physicists (and I include engineers in this) approach problems from two different sides, one from developing abstract theory, the other from applying practical context to the theory. Both are needed, and both tend to be - outside of some branches of theoretical physics - are largely exclusive of each other. Speaking as an engineer, you can be the best cabinet maker in the world, but you are going to get nowhere without a bloody toolkit. Someone has to make the tools, pure mathematics then, the degree itself and those who go into that world, are very much necessary beyond short term notions of what is apparently useful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrgirl Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I'm well aware I'm coming across as a total c**t, but it annoys me when others sneer at someone else's career choice, or degree choice, or University choice, and Salty has previous for slagging off other people's universities / degrees because they don't fit into the same model as Strathclyde's. It's ok. I retract my statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) I tried all day to get throught to SAAS for my son and never even got put on hold just a message saying try later Have you not tried to do it on the net? Last year I made my application on the last day it said on the internet, around the 30th of June I think, and got a letter back 2 weeks later. Some of my mates left it and didn't apply until around October/November time they didn't seem to have any problems. This year I had my letter in by April with no problems again. I've heard of people having problems but they have been fine with me. Edit: That is a shite post. What I'm trying to say is if you're applying for SAAS funding then it's better on the internet than on the phone. Edited August 30, 2011 by buddie06smfc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Strathclyde library currently open 8 hours a day, Glasgow library currently open 19 hours a day. Library opening hours are a good indication of an institution's commitment to its students. Aye, ok then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Have you not tried to do it on the net? Last year I made my application on the last day it said on the internet, around the 30th of June I think, and got a letter back 2 weeks later. Some of my mates left it and didn't apply until around October/November time they didn't seem to have any problems. From SAAS: Latest figures show that we received around 109,000 applications by the ‘guarantee date’. Within that group, we are processing those with the earliest course start dates and are currently working on those starting in the week beginning 12 September. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 So avoiding the crap formatting that P&B now does when you quote, if you haven't had your award notice (like myself) but have a late start date (like myself) then you should wait impatiently at the incompetence of SAAS (like myself). If it's something else then phoning is the only way, they claim to be still working only on e-mails received on July 5th. Not joking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I've never heard the term Junior Honours either. And I have absolutely no idea what percentage of my final degree classification third year will make up either, which is a little worrying given I start it in a fortnight. Should probably look that up. I don't know either... I tried all day to get throught to SAAS for my son and never even got put on hold just a message saying try later Tell him to do it. I don't think I've ever called, I tend to get mildly frustrated then send them emails and wait my 2 weeks like every over sucker. Swing and a miss, chum. It's been my intention for years to go into teaching (hence why I've been tutoring for six years), but doing the joint degree (my degree isn't in maths, coincidentally, there's another miss) gave my studies a bit of variety. I thought it was for the easy money. And keeping it real with the teenagers. Strathclyde library currently open 8 hours a day, Glasgow library currently open 19 hours a day. We should also point out that it has 2,564 seats for 23,000 students. Meaning you're fucked at exam times, even Theology on the top floor is filled by 10. Give them a hard time on Facebook Keith, worked for me last year and absolutely no issues with my funding this year, everything in place well before the course starts. I've heard f**k all after submitting mid July. The account it is being paid into also no longer exists. Everything about university is fucked for me at the moment. Vast tracts of mathematics have been described completely in isolation to the applications that eventually uses them. Fair play to anyone who read past this opening sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrysnotter Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Aye, ok then. Maybe the quality of service doesn't matter when your getting educated for free, but when your paying a substantial amount of money you expect good service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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