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3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

My wife got a call/text a couple of weeks ago warning her that her password (for her bank account, I think) had been compromised and quoted part of her password. She didn't do anything about but sat and worried about it. Eventally she contacted the bank - or they may have contacted her - and was reassured that it was a scam and she did the right thing by doing nothing.

ETA: Answer to @Zen Archer Esq.

Everyone gets caught out at some time or another. More than a decade ago, eBay used to send out emails to tell people they had new messages and such. I used to just click the 'Reply' button and log in when the website popped up. Only one time I did it and the website that popped up just prompted me for my username and password again. After a second's confusion, I checked the URL and I've never changed the password for an account so fast. Thank f**k they weren't smart enough to automate an actual eBay login after harvesting my details  

Outlook introduced the 'hover' feature to show URLs used by links soon after, and eBay stopped sending out messages with links to log in.

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8 minutes ago, bennett said:

Probably what the rest of us do online tbf.

The Orange Order hasn't been designated a terror organisation, mate. You're fine.

...for now.

[Jacksgranda]

30 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

Sorry if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick, but your post reads as though you think there's a chance that the call you received might not be a scam.

Edit: also, and I'm sorry for missing this aspect the first time round - WTF was your young adult doing?  

Accessing pornography and graphic violence.

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1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said:

Accessing pornography and graphic violence.

Yes, that's...uhh...terrible. I'm sure the rest of P&B will join me in castigating those kinds of activities  

(it's depends on exactly what he's accessing, I know, but I couldn't miss the opportunity to be facetious)

[GordonD]

43 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

I've had a suspicious number of emails lately asking me to confirm my bank details as evidence that I'm not a tramp.

Little do they know that I am a massive tramp, and there's not a thing they can do about it!

I've had a few e-mails saying there's a problem with my Amaozn account and please click on the link to sort it out. (That's their spelling of it.)

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2 minutes ago, GordonD said:

I've had a few e-mails saying there's a problem with my Amaozn account and please click on the link to sort it out. (That's their spelling of it.)

It's all about Bitcoin for me right now. There's about $20,000 waiting to be collected and, if I act now, they'll throw in an extra $5,000 dividend as a bonus!

I don't remember ever signing up for any Bitcoin scheme, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be the only one not making money out of this new financial wizardry that the young people are using!

[Jacksgranda]

27 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

Yes, that's...uhh...terrible. I'm sure the rest of P&B will join me in castigating those kinds of activities  

(it's depends on exactly what he's accessing, I know, but I couldn't miss the opportunity to be facetious)

He was closely monitered at tech whenever he was on computers after they caught him. Prior to that he was unsupervised despite being warned by us - and social work - what he was up to. "Violates his human rights" didn't last long after they saw what he was watching.

[Jacksgranda]

16 minutes ago, GordonD said:

I've had a few e-mails saying there's a problem with my Amaozn account and please click on the link to sort it out. (That's their spelling of it.)

Bit of a giveaway. Unless you've dyslexia, I suppose.

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4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

He was closely monitered at tech whenever he was on computers after they caught him. Prior to that he was unsupervised despite being warned by us - and social work - what he was up to. "Violates his human rights" didn't last long after they saw what he was watching.

Oh God...it was repeats of Only An Excuse, wasn't it?  

I had a similar problem with the wean recently, but thankfully the school were all over it, and turned out to have overreacted a bit in the end. Got him well locked down now, although keeping an eye on him in the coming years will be fun if he's anything like as sneaky as I was. I'm sure it must have been a nightmare if your lad was of legal age. Hopefully the porn and violent imagery is a phase and not indicative of pathology.

[Jacksgranda]

Just now, BigFatTabbyDave said:

Oh God...it was repeats of Only An Excuse, wasn't it?  

I had a similar problem with the wean recently, but thankfully the school were all over it, and turned out to have overreacted a bit in the end. Got him well locked down now, although keeping an eye on him in the coming years will be fun if he's anything like as sneaky as I was. I'm sure it must have been a nightmare if your lad was of legal age. Hopefully the porn and violent imagery is a phase and not indicative of pathology.

He was with us for 18 years, from 5 to 23. He's now got a place of his own - supervised living - and doing wonderfully well, we vist once a fortnight although obviously not recently.

No, it isn't a phase, and yes he could turn quite dangerous, I'm afraid.

[Dee Man]

26 minutes ago, GordonD said:

I've had a few e-mails saying there's a problem with my Amaozn account and please click on the link to sort it out. (That's their spelling of it.)

I got a scam email allegedly from Amazon the other day which told me my account was about to be "blocked!!!", replete with exclamation marks. They were doing so well up until that point. 

[Florentine_Pogen]

'Mon the ToyBoys........ [emoji106]

My mrs is 8 years older than me (but looks about 10 years younger than me). 

[Eednud]

Today?!
Edit: not sure why he's back on form; he's mostly been (bo)vine lately.
(best I've got, sorry)

Don’t forget Peruvian team Deportivo Wanka from Huancayo named after “The Huancas, Wancas, or Wankas are a Quechua people living in the Junín Region of central Peru, in and around the Mantaro Valley.”

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3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

He was with us for 18 years, from 5 to 23. He's now got a place of his own - supervised living - and doing wonderfully well, we vist once a fortnight although obviously not recently.

No, it isn't a phase, and yes he could turn quite dangerous, I'm afraid.

That must be worrying. I know it's sounds Orwellian, but it's a shame more can't be done to monitor potential offenders before they actually commit crimes. Occasionally you'll read articles about people who have compulsions towards sexual violence, for example, and want help (even incarceration) before they submit to their urges, but the state's answer is that there's nothing they can do before a crime has been committed.

There's obviously a line somewhere that shouldn't be crossed, but it's surely for everyone's benefit if people could voluntarily request treatment and be taken seriously. Not saying that would happen in your case, but I get the impression he might find it difficult to get help for his problems if he wanted it.

[BFTD]

3 minutes ago, Eednud said:

Don’t forget Peruvian team Deportivo Wanka from Huancayo named after “The Huancas, Wancas, or Wankas are a Quechua people living in the Junín Region of central Peru, in and around the Mantaro Valley.”

Bollocks, I've already played the Good Guy card  

[Jacksgranda]

2 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

That must be worrying. I know it's sounds Orwellian, but it's a shame more can't be done to monitor potential offenders before they actually commit crimes. Occasionally you'll read articles about people who have compulsions towards sexual violence, for example, and want help (even incarceration) before they submit to their urges, but the state's answer is that there's nothing they can do before a crime has been committed.

There's obviously a line somewhere that shouldn't be crossed, but it's surely for everyone's benefit if people could voluntarily request treatment and be taken seriously. Not saying that would happen in your case, but I get the impression he might find it difficult to get help for his problems if he wanted it.

He wouldn't think he has a problem. He's on the autism spectrum, has ADHD and a learning difficulty. However he seems to have settled in well where he is now and is very popular with the staff and carers, He would be the youngest there and one of the more able ones I think.

However, he plays the long game, so who knows.

He's been talked to by the police on a couple of occasions but has alway got away with things because of his learning difficulties. The physcologist he had always told us that he would never understand consequences until such time as he was locked up in a cell.

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4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

He wouldn't think he has a problem. He's on the autism spectrum, has ADHD and a learning difficulty. However he seems to have settled in well where he is now and is very popular with the staff and carers, He would be the youngest there and one of the more able ones I think.

However, he plays the long game, so who knows.

He's been talked to by the police on a couple of occasions but has alway got away with things because of his learning difficulties. The physcologist he had always told us that he would never understand consequences until such time as he was locked up in a cell.

Mine has some of those issues, so I sympathise.

I'd say "thoughts and prayers", but I'm not religious, so I'm even less use than the President of the United States. Sorry. I hope it works out OK, but at least it sounds like you have a good relationship with him. You've done what you can.

[Spring Onion]

19 minutes ago, Eednud said:

Don’t forget Peruvian team Deportivo Wanka from Huancayo named after “The Huancas, Wancas, or Wankas are a Quechua people living in the Junín Region of central Peru, in and around the Mantaro Valley.”

Why did I not read this thread before doing the quiz today! 

[AsimButtHitsASix]

16 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

There's obviously a line somewhere that shouldn't be crossed, but it's surely for everyone's benefit if people could voluntarily request treatment and be taken seriously. Not saying that would happen in your case, but I get the impression he might find it difficult to get help for his problems if he wanted it.

My missus was working for a charity in London and they were in the middle of creating this.. proactive force type thing for stalkers. Although it doesn't excuse their behaviour and a lot of stalkers are very aware of what they are up to a large number just don't understand how much they are creeping women out and just think "if they'd only give me the chance to speak to them" kinda thing. It's weird AF. Anyway it was set up with a stalking charity, the Met and local councils and social workers who thought "this yin's for the watching" they would be invited in for treatment before they'd committed a crime. Treating stalking behaviour as a symptom of mental health issues and a community health initiative rather than a crime. The problem is if the guy sending 50 texts a day to a woman and turning up at her house unannounced repeatedly doesn't think that's wrong they're not likely to agree to help to combat that behaviour.

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2 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

My missus was working for a charity in London and they were in the middle of creating this.. proactive force type thing for stalkers. Although it doesn't excuse their behaviour and a lot of stalkers are very aware of what they are up to a large number just don't understand how much they are creeping women out and just think "if they'd only give me the chance to speak to them" kinda thing. It's weird AF. Anyway it was set up with a stalking charity, the Met and local councils and social workers who thought "this yin's for the watching" they would be invited in for treatment before they'd committed a crime. Treating stalking behaviour as a symptom of mental health issues and a community health initiative rather than a crime. The problem is if the guy sending 50 texts a day to a woman and turning up at her house unannounced repeatedly doesn't think that's wrong they're not likely to agree to help to combat that behaviour.

If it stops some, then it's surely worth doing. I think there could be more potential offenders who might be open to help than people realise.

Occasionally the BBC website will have articles about young paedophiles who are disgusted by their own urges, and have sought help. Generally they seem to be questioned about whether or not they've committed any offences and, if it's established they haven't, they're sent packing without any support or help whatsoever. I'd have thought a top priority ought to be trying to stop people from committing crimes in the first place, rather than essentially saying, "come back when you've actually hurt someone so we can lock you up".