Miguel Sanchez Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, virginton said: I sort of do because any new band within that preferred genre of music has been universally abysmal since at least 2010. And even those that do emerge have been punted from the spotlight by other categories of God-awful racket: see 'grime artists' headlinging Gastonbury undet that clown Emily Eavis' watch. The game's a bogey then for my engagement with mainstream music. Well that's even worse. Glastonbury is one of the biggest and most diverse festivals in the world. If you hate what's on the main stage so much try doing a minimum of work and looking around at the rest. You'll find plenty of things worth listening to. For the various boomer complaints over the past few pages about the internet, about a throwaway culture, it's never been easier to make, share and discover music. Bitching about what's mainstream when the non mainstream is as large and varied as its ever been is... you know I'd like to come up with a nice metaphor, but I don't need to. It's lazy. Quit your fucking bitching and go looking yourself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Robbie Williams is quality and anyone who doesn’t like him is a liar - so many bangers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreElgin Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The early 90s to me just seemed like an explosion of new talent and creativity.There was so much good music of all genres coming out. Hip hop was still decent with uk stuff as well.Clubs played a variety of stuff as well and attracted people of all races and upbringing and pretty much stopped the casual culture.Now you've got nothing, no creative breakthroughs just shit like mumble rap, trap music or generic edm watered down nonsense.I know that you tend to align to the music of your youth but since mid 90s its really fallen off a cliff. I think this is partly to the download and mp3 culture. It really devalues music and its all too throwaway and forgettable.Young folk just wouldn't have the patience or attention span to appreciate a show like John peel these days. Just dull watered down vacuous false pish.This is a total yer da post but compare any genre from now to twenty years ago. Hard to see any progression.I don't know how you can call anyone vacuous when you have to be told what to listen to by a TV/radio show. Fucking hell. Stop listening to boybands like Oasis and open your ears, man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The early 90s to me just seemed like an explosion of new talent and creativity.There was so much good music of all genres coming out. Hip hop was still decent with uk stuff as well.Clubs played a variety of stuff as well and attracted people of all races and upbringing and pretty much stopped the casual culture.Now you've got nothing, no creative breakthroughs just shit like mumble rap, trap music or generic edm watered down nonsense.I know that you tend to align to the music of your youth but since mid 90s its really fallen off a cliff. I think this is partly to the download and mp3 culture. It really devalues music and its all too throwaway and forgettable.Young folk just wouldn't have the patience or attention span to appreciate a show like John peel these days. Just dull watered down vacuous false pish.This is a total yer da post but compare any genre from now to twenty years ago. Hard to see any progression.The Snuts, Fontaines D.C., The Lathums....there’s 3 ‘new’ bands for you to try [emoji106] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Sports Team, anyone like them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Sports Team, anyone like them? Yes. Been given a lot of airplay on Radio 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Angusfifer said: Yes. Been given a lot of airplay on Radio 6. I heard them on Soccer Saturday and listened to more. The first for years my son hasn't been first to tell me about. Although he probably listens to more from my era than anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, throbber said: I think lots of people just have their era of music that was their favourite and no matter what you try then nothing else quite does it for you. Music stopped when the Jam split up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Music stopped when the Jam split up. I liked The Jam, but they were grossly over rated. In my youth I thought they were new and original. Then as I got older I could see the lineage from The Small Faces and The Kinks etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Sports Team, anyone like them?Only heard one of their songs and wasn’t up nor down. Worth checking out more? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, NJ2 said: Only heard one of their songs and wasn’t up nor down. Worth checking out more? I'd say so, but in normal circumstances I wouldn't advise taking music tips from an old alkie off the internet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I'd say so, but in normal circumstances I wouldn't advise taking music tips from an old alkie off the internet.Generally aye, but if I listen to them and don’t like it I can presumably turn it off without repercussion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I liked The Jam, but they were grossly over rated. In my youth I thought they were new and original. Then as I got older I could see the lineage from The Small Faces and The Kinks etc. The Style Council were far superior IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, tongue_tied_danny said: The Style Council were far superior IMO. Don't start me...I'll Style Council you... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, throbber said: A town called Phallus would be a good idea for my next sketch. In the titty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Well that's even worse. Glastonbury is one of the biggest and most diverse festivals in the world. Oh jeez, not this self-righteous pish again. Quote If you hate what's on the main stage so much try doing a minimum of work and looking around at the rest. You'll find plenty of things worth listening to. I'm sure that there are but I fail to see why I or indeed any other sane person would choose to go through a multi-stage booking process and then pay a significant premium on top of just about any other top line music festival in order to rummage around page 34 of the programme to find someone 'who's quite good' on some stupid wee corner of the venue to spend my Friday night. Before Eavis jr. began to seriously run the show they were more than capable of both providing good headliners *and* an interesting and electic programme at the same time, instead of booking an endless parade of performing turds for the Pyramid stage. When a music festival talks as much about the 'unique experience' as Glastonbury does then you know that it is running on fumes when it comes to selling the actual product. Obviously those who keep going and have a great time have got an interest in insisting to everyone that the standard hasn't declined. From an objective standpoint, it absolutely has though. Quote For the various boomer complaints over the past few pages about the internet, about a throwaway culture, it's never been easier to make, share and discover music. Bitching about what's mainstream when the non mainstream is as large and varied as its ever been is... you know I'd like to come up with a nice metaphor, but I don't need to. It's lazy. Quit your fucking bitching and go looking yourself Well no because once again you seem to think that people are somehow obliged to find new music on a regular basis: they are not. For most people music is only one of a diverse range of interests which means that the available time to check out some obscure no-mark outfits is limited. The mainstream exists to make music consumption as hassle free as possible for the vast majority of the population, so when it is shite then music in general is shite. Get off your cross about it. Edited July 4, 2020 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: I remember many middle-aged fuds in the early '90s complaining about modern music being recycled pish. Nirvana ripping off Cheap Trick (whoever they were) seemed to be quite a common opinion. Presumably mid-18th century Salzburg was awash with auld fuds rattling on about this upstart Mozart and this generic plinky-plonk stuff he keeps rattling out. From this, I think we can gather that middle-aged folk from all periods in history should just f**k off and realise their time is done. You're Yer Da now. Accept it. I genuinely can't think of the last artist that emerged into popular consciousness that everyone felt was doing something genuinely original. Burial, maybe? Even then, he's went on to become really derivative of himself as well. I think because culture has splintered so much with the death of major subcultures (what was the last major subculture? Scene kids? Emos?) that people making original stuff are generally remaining underground with a bit of a cult following. Although to completely contradict myself I have noticed more major pop stars are taking their cues from underground electronic artists which is cool. The PC Music folk have basically transitioned to becoming a hit factory for Charli XCX for example. 1 hour ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: She's done remarkably well not ending up in porn, considering she has no discernible musical talent. I remember liking one of her songs, only to find it was written by somebody else, and their demo version of it was notably better than hers. But presumably that lassie doesn't look like a plastic sex doll, so nobody kens who she is. Her verse on Kanye West's Monster proves she has talent. I still maintain she hobbled Jay Z by knocking it out the park right after his spot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Drones was up there with BHaR, the two either side of that were horrendous though. Music peaked in my book around 2005-07 and the last decade has been a solid march into the abyss. Indie in particular is now fatally irrelevant as a genre and won't be back.DMA’s are doing their best to keep indie music alive IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I liked The Jam, but they were grossly over rated. In my youth I thought they were new and original. Then as I got older I could see the lineage from The Small Faces and The Kinks etc. Anything involving Paul Weller is grossly over rated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Mark Connolly said: Anything involving Paul Weller is grossly over rated I could have gone on to his solo career which is very derivative. He's not bad at it, to be fair. I never quite understood the degree of adulation from his fans though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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