HopeStreetWalker Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Hank von Hell said: Sorry I thought it was sarcasm , not an attempt at it. But thanks for putting me right, in your role as sole arbiter on what is and what isn't. Can I just apologize to the whole of the Pie & Bovril community for my attempt, I will never do this again - please do not ban me or give me little credit. Oh well ! all right then ! Thou are absolved. Don't do it again ' or I will ridicule you a second time. ' ( copyright Monty Python and the Holy Grail ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, roman_bairn said: If I didn’t understand, it probably because it comes across as gibberish. There’s too many on here that are negative re every single aspect of the club and will take the opposite position of the board, as an example, irrespective of right or wrong. I’m not a fan of the current dysfunctional board and would like to see change, but not at all cost and frankly nothing Ive seen on the table to date impressed me that much. I actually breathe easier because we didn’t embark on a change a few weeks ago. Much of the criticism IS justified, but sometimes on every aspect, it comes across from you and one or two others as just having another go just for the sake of it.... Sorry if it coms across as gibberish , I did try my best; What if it' s a win-lose-draw - what then? - Plenty have stated they should have three matches/a couple of weeks, my question what if it's a mixed bag of results in that short time? What if the players don't fancy the training , they know M&M will be gone in a month if they don't perform - Players across the country can get managers the sack, we have even seen it our own club when players have downed tools to get rid. If they know M&M are being judged over a few matches it would be easy for them. What a ridiculous situation to put us in - during the most important season in years. - We have to get up this season , I would have thought that was bleedin' obvious. Well done yet again our BOD - at least you are consistent , plumbers & accountants trying to run a football club - I don't really need to add to this & I don't want to upset you further. Hopefully it's less gibberish for you now and you can understand - if not I cannot help you further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Sorry if it coms across as gibberish , I did try my best; What if it' s a win-lose-draw - what then? - Plenty have stated they should have three matches/a couple of weeks, my question what if it's a mixed bag of results in that short time? What if the players don't fancy the training , they know M&M will be gone in a month if they don't perform - Players across the country can get managers the sack, we have even seen it our own club when players have downed tools to get rid. If they know M&M are being judged over a few matches it would be easy for them. What a ridiculous situation to put us in - during the most important season in years. - We have to get up this season , I would have thought that was bleedin' obvious. Well done yet again our BOD - at least you are consistent , plumbers & accountants trying to run a football club - I don't really need to add to this & I don't want to upset you further. Hopefully it's less gibberish for you now and you can understand - if not I cannot help you further. Lots of ‘What ifs’....but isn’t that the point? Trying to gather as much information as possible to make an informed decision.Re the current managers, if the players don’t fancy the training then perhaps they are not right for a permanent position. So we are looking at other options in parallel to replace if needed, but your solution appears to be appoint them now to the end of the season. Why?‘What if the results are inconclusive?’ Look at the reasons why. Is it the co-managers inexperience or players that need replacing and what are the managers plans. Then decide if they are right to remain in position.‘What a ridiculous situation to put up us in?’ Only in the respect that they took so long to get rid of McKinnon. Now that they have they appear to be doing the tight thing to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Lots of ‘What ifs’....but isn’t that the point? Trying to gather as much information as possible to make an informed decision. Re the current managers, if the players don’t fancy the training then perhaps they are not right for a permanent position. So we are looking at other options in parallel to replace if needed, but your solution appears to be appoint them now to the end of the season. Why? ‘What if the results are inconclusive?’ Look at the reasons why. Is it the co-managers inexperience or players that need replacing and what are the managers plans. Then decide if they are right to remain in position. ‘What a ridiculous situation to put up us in?’ Only in the respect that they took so long to get rid of McKinnon. Now that they have they appear to be doing the tight thing to me. I certainly wouldve given them to at least the end of the year and then taken stock. You can still put feelers out re who would be interested in taking the job if necessary. Its different if u are promoting a couple of guys from within to do the job but the fact that we're getting guys in from two other clubs to do a temp post kind of muddies the water a bit. Its obvious though that lex and his crew basically see this as a no lose situation. If they do well its seen as a master stroke and if they dont they punt them and get someone else in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Lots of ‘What ifs’....but isn’t that the point? Trying to gather as much information as possible to make an informed decision. Re the current managers, if the players don’t fancy the training then perhaps they are not right for a permanent position. So we are looking at other options in parallel to replace if needed, but your solution appears to be appoint them now to the end of the season. Why? ‘What if the results are inconclusive?’ Look at the reasons why. Is it the co-managers inexperience or players that need replacing and what are the managers plans. Then decide if they are right to remain in position. ‘What a ridiculous situation to put up us in?’ Only in the respect that they took so long to get rid of McKinnon. Now that they have they appear to be doing the tight thing to me. It's not my solution, it's pretty much what every other club does. If you have faith in them and claim to support them then give them the job until the end of the season. Not just a couple of weeks for God's sake. This parallel recruitment process seems distracting, unhelpful and a bit disrespectful to both the guys in the job and the successful candidate who might never get it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokeville Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I’d give M&M the job now and allow them to make some changes in January. For me a bigger risk would be to bring someone else now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I saw Lex Miller in the pub last night. I was going to kick him in the baws but decided not to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawkirk Wull Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Maybe the board have somebody lined up as manager but cannot announce till his contract is up in the summer with another club. Lee & Cracks might be part of his wish list backroom staff or then again maybe not. Who knows , expect the unexpected 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I’d give M&M the job now and allow them to make some changes in January. For me a bigger risk would be to bring someone else now. They have beaten Linlithgow and Stranraer. With respect you probably could have got two off hear, shoved them in the dugout and we would have won. TBF on them they have changed the system and have got more out of 3/4 players than the previous manager. However we should wait and see what the next 2/3 game bring before making our mind up. Whatever happens I would only give them to the end of the season anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Fawkirk Wull said: Maybe the board have somebody lined up as manager but cannot announce till his contract is up in the summer with another club. Lee & Cracks might be part of his wish list backroom staff or then again maybe not. Who knows , expect the unexpected Feck sake do u really think lex and ghe rest of his cronies have thst kind of planning in them? I wouldnt trust then to run a bath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairnsaloud Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I saw Lex Miller in the pub last night. I was going to kick him in the baws but decided not to.Saved yourself from getting arrested then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 51 minutes ago, bairnsaloud said: Saved yourself from getting arrested then. Nerd alert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: They have beaten Linlithgow and Stranraer. With respect you probably could have got two off hear, shoved them in the dugout and we would have won. I think a lot of folk are forgetting this. I'm tentatively excited and will give them both a chance, but it was Linlithgow and Stranraer, FFS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokeville Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I think a lot of folk are forgetting this. I'm tentatively excited and will give them both a chance, but it was Linlithgow and Stranraer, FFS.Regardless of who we played we won. Ray’s team would have managed a couple of 0-0’s no doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gaz said: I think a lot of folk are forgetting this. I'm tentatively excited and will give them both a chance, but it was Linlithgow and Stranraer, FFS. Yep now they need to hit the dizzy heights of beating Raith Rovers and Airdrieonians 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Ex Bairns update: Patrick Brough scored for Barrow at the weekend, while Botti Biabi and Ryan Blair have signed for Stenny! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Ex Bairns update: Patrick Brough scored for Barrow at the weekend, while Botti Biabi and Ryan Blair have signed for Stenny! I never grew to dislike Paddy Brough. Seemed like a good guy. Dramatic fall from grace for Ryan Blair though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee_bairn Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, brokeville said: Regardless of who we played we won. Ray’s team would have managed a couple of 0-0’s no doubt. We’ve already beaten Stranraer away from home 3-0 under Ray... Ray would have won both games comfortably. Next Saturday away to East Fife is the first real test for M&M. Edited December 1, 2019 by wee_bairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: I never grew to dislike Paddy Brough. Seemed like a good guy. Dramatic fall from grace for Ryan Blair though. Him and that Harrison lump were the only 2 of that Hartley team I didn’t passionately hate 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inreganhendrywetrust Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Yep now they need to hit the dizzy heights of beating Raith Rovers and Airdrieonians 2 games played this season and we are still unbeaten against you inbred clowns... so have a think about what your saying -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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