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On 03/09/2022 at 17:07, Russ said:

That’s on McGlynn today. Fucking ridiculous decision to put McCann to right-back and the fact he didn’t change it during the game was an absolute joke. Mackie and Henderson were absolutely stinking the place out all game but played the full 90 and McCann gets hauled off. Aye great.

Shout out to Hogarth tae for being worse than his faither. Fair play. Thought he was at fault for both goals. Second one of course me went right through him but the first he should be coming and collecting the cross then he palmed the shot right out to Cardle.


Hogwarts Faither was a better shagger but hopeless fighter 

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11 hours ago, Springfield said:

What I’d give for a guy like this. Brutal to what we had back then, compared to the spineless shite we’ve endured for years.

In the last 10 years I liked Harry Burgoyne, thought he was good for us in his short spell considering the absolute muck he had Infront of him, Mitchell was unlucky with his injury, Danny Rogers was good for us, then we had Michael McGovern who was top drawer. Cammy bell was obviously a good keeper, just not when he was with us and 3 stone heavier than a few years earlier, the rest don't really deserve a mention. Only Fasan sticks out and for compelety all of the wrong reasons. 

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12 hours ago, Shodwall cat said:

I was a bit surprised I must admit that mcglynn didn't bring in a more experienced goalkeeper. Not sure any of our 3 keepers are someone I'd have full confidence in over the piece.

Players of the quality required will have better options not helped by having a reputation as not seen as a reliable employer and understandably so.

Look at it from a potential signings point of view. 2 - 3 clubs after you so looking at the player churn at Falkirk will tip it in favor of another club.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Believe The Hype said:

In the last 10 years I liked Harry Burgoyne, thought he was good for us in his short spell considering the absolute muck he had Infront of him, Mitchell was unlucky with his injury, Danny Rogers was good for us, then we had Michael McGovern who was top drawer. Cammy bell was obviously a good keeper, just not when he was with us and 3 stone heavier than a few years earlier, the rest don't really deserve a mention. Only Fasan sticks out and for compelety all of the wrong reasons. 

McGovern for me was excellent as was Parks, the rest mentioned were good but not at the level of Parks/McGovern.
My point was the team in general from the type of guys we had, compared to the seventy maybe eighty players who we’ve signed over the past three or so seasons.

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It was a poor, probably avoidable result on Saturday. 

McGlynn knows it wasn't good enough and I don't doubt the players will be disappointed but the castigation of everyone - including the usual supsects - is as expected as it is OTT. 

The false equivalence of comparing Tony Parks to Nicky Hogarth is bonkers but at least you've got a new scapegoat to bang on about.

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18 minutes ago, Blame Me said:

It was a poor, probably avoidable result on Saturday. 

McGlynn knows it wasn't good enough and I don't doubt the players will be disappointed but the castigation of everyone - including the usual supsects - is as expected as it is OTT. 

The false equivalence of comparing Tony Parks to Nicky Hogarth is bonkers but at least you've got a new scapegoat to bang on about.

Totally agree with these sentiments & bit of slack needs to be given to young Nicky who will be hurting more than anyone for letting in the second goal.

I am not sure how others feel but it was refreshing to watch & listen to the honest interview with Stephen McGinn who offers a honest appraisal of the different attitude now in the dressing room as reflected by the pain & disappointment on his face & from his demeanour. At least we know our captain cares & I reckon with him & the management team any attitude that wasn’t right on Saturday will be addressed in time for Alloa this coming weekend.

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1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

Players of the quality required will have better options not helped by having a reputation as not seen as a reliable employer and understandably so.

Look at it from a potential signings point of view. 2 - 3 clubs after you so looking at the player churn at Falkirk will tip it in favor of another club.

I'm genuinely a bit worried about you.

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28 minutes ago, Blame Me said:

It was a poor, probably avoidable result on Saturday. 

McGlynn knows it wasn't good enough and I don't doubt the players will be disappointed but the castigation of everyone - including the usual supsects - is as expected as it is OTT. 

The false equivalence of comparing Tony Parks to Nicky Hogarth is bonkers but at least you've got a new scapegoat to bang on about.

I cant agree with this. Nesbit in particular has had credit where its due of late, but his second half was the very worst of him. Way too easy to dispossess, little attempt to tackle or track runner when he had the ball, way too over complicated, took far too long to release it. Completely failed to anticipate a high ball clearing the defender which would have seen him with a clear run into the box from the right hand side. Few other things, but he was miles off it, and McGuffie was quite simply a man short. He contributed nothing. 

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1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

Players of the quality required will have better options not helped by having a reputation as not seen as a reliable employer and understandably so.

Look at it from a potential signings point of view. 2 - 3 clubs after you so looking at the player churn at Falkirk will tip it in favor of another club.

 

 

Do you think we were the only club in for Stephen McGinn?

I think a few things can tip the balance but manager turnover is far down the list compared to money and league positioning, particularly since most clubs have a high turnover. McGlynn has every chance of being here for the long run as Rhys McCabe has at Airdrie or Ian Murray at Raith Rovers. 

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32 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I cant agree with this. Nesbit in particular has had credit where its due of late, but his second half was the very worst of him. Way too easy to dispossess, little attempt to tackle or track runner when he had the ball, way too over complicated, took far too long to release it. Completely failed to anticipate a high ball clearing the defender which would have seen him with a clear run into the box from the right hand side. Few other things, but he was miles off it, and McGuffie was quite simply a man short. He contributed nothing. 

Totally agree with you. No one is having a go at Hogarth, but certainly a couple of real howlers of late. Yes having a go at Nesbitt and McGuffie is absolutely correct, in Nesbitt's case a few on here we’re giving him credit, but Saturdays performance as with McGuffie wasn’t acceptable. Both looked like they couldn’t be arsed and for me that’s unacceptable. 
We need to get out of this bloody league and for me we need to eleven players fighting for 90 odd mins every time they play in the NB. 
Thought we had turned the corner, but obviously not with some players. 

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Totally agree with you. No one is having a go at Hogarth, but certainly a couple of real howlers of late. Yes having a go at Nesbitt and McGuffie is absolutely correct, in Nesbitt's case a few on here we’re giving him credit, but Saturdays performance as with McGuffie wasn’t acceptable. Both looked like they couldn’t be arsed and for me that’s unacceptable. 
We need to get out of this bloody league and for me we need to eleven players fighting for 90 odd mins every time they play in the NB. 
Thought we had turned the corner, but obviously not with some players. 

If you think lack of effort was a problem on Saturday, I think you should be castigating the whole team, not just the usual suspects….
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Still seems to me that when it comes to the crunch and a midfield battle in this league we're still found badly wanting the same as the last 3 seasons down here. We're now onto our fourth management team and still noone seems to be able to sort it out properly.

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27 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:


If you think lack of effort was a problem on Saturday, I think you should be castigating the whole team, not just the usual suspects….

Can't agree with that either. I didn't see a lack of effort from the defence, I saw a confused unit with Henderson looking less than sharp and our best LB playing at RB. I also saw a commitment to "playing out" that was different from previous matches that looked confusing to the players.

In midfield I dont think you can accuse Yeats or McGinn, but they were bullied a bit. Alegria just couldnt get any change out of Stevie Bell physically with balls shelled up to him. That leaves Morrison, from whom there was poor decision making in the second half, and some frustration, but he plugged away. 

That really just leaves McGuffie and Nesbit to analyse on that front, and both were notably poor, with striking reflections of last season. 

I said already, I blame McGlynn heavily for that, but im just sick of seeing Lawal come on and look much better than either of those, yet next week they start again. 

For my tuppence worth, Smith mentioned the tight pitch on Friday. I think they overthought it, and ultimately shat the bed. 

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3 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

Still seems to me that when it comes to the crunch and a midfield battle in this league we're still found badly wanting the same as the last 3 seasons down here. We're now onto our fourth management team and still noone seems to be able to sort it out properly.

The worry now is that teams have already sussed out how to get at us and we don’t have enough to change it around. Had hoped we added more physicality in our back line but Henderson can’t get bullied the way he did for the first goal on Saturday. Far too easy. 

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6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Can't agree with that either. I didn't see a lack of effort from the defence, I saw a confused unit with Henderson looking less than sharp and our best LB playing at RB. I also saw a commitment to "playing out" that was different from previous matches that looked confusing to the players.

In midfield I dont think you can accuse Yeats or McGinn, but they were bullied a bit. Alegria just couldnt get any change out of Stevie Bell physically with balls shelled up to him. That leaves Morrison, from whom there was poor decision making in the second half, and some frustration, but he plugged away. 

That really just leaves McGuffie and Nesbit to analyse on that front, and both were notably poor, with striking reflections of last season. 

I said already, I blame McGlynn heavily for that, but im just sick of seeing Lawal come on and look much better than either of those, yet next week they start again. 

For my tuppence worth, Smith mentioned the tight pitch on Friday. I think they overthought it, and ultimately shat the bed. 

Perhaps why McCann was shunted on RB, having both him and McGuffie cutting in from the right takes away any width possible on that side.

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Players of the quality required will have better options not helped by having a reputation as not seen as a reliable employer and understandably so.
Look at it from a potential signings point of view. 2 - 3 clubs after you so looking at the player churn at Falkirk will tip it in favor of another club.
 
 
Footballers will go wherever is offering the most wages 9 times out of 10, they won't care about high turnover of players etc.
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Can't agree with that either. I didn't see a lack of effort from the defence, I saw a confused unit with Henderson looking less than sharp and our best LB playing at RB. I also saw a commitment to "playing out" that was different from previous matches that looked confusing to the players.
In midfield I dont think you can accuse Yeats or McGinn, but they were bullied a bit. Alegria just couldnt get any change out of Stevie Bell physically with balls shelled up to him. That leaves Morrison, from whom there was poor decision making in the second half, and some frustration, but he plugged away. 
That really just leaves McGuffie and Nesbit to analyse on that front, and both were notably poor, with striking reflections of last season. 
I said already, I blame McGlynn heavily for that, but im just sick of seeing Lawal come on and look much better than either of those, yet next week they start again. 
For my tuppence worth, Smith mentioned the tight pitch on Friday. I think they overthought it, and ultimately shat the bed. 

All fair enough….except I never said they lacked effort. I was responding to someone who, like so many are happy to exclude the newer players from the same criticism.
I didn’t see a lack of effort, but some players such as Hogarth and Henderson (but in truth pretty much everyone), definitely underperformed, and that wasn’t solely due to one or two players being tried out of position even if it was a factor.
We can talk about our anarchic defence, but we were outplayed in the middle of the park on Saturday with Yeats in the position we all want to see him play and actually I though both he and McGinn were very poor and a big reason why the defence couldn’t cope….
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