Shodwall cat Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 This 400k has been there since the summer. It was always going to need covered by investment of some sort of another. Thinking that fss was ever going to cover it was an extreme longshot so really we are in no different a situation to where we were 6 months ago. The concern is cash at hand but I'm not overly concerned as MR and SA won't let a club they did so much to keep going fall into admin again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, LatapyBairn. said: And what if they’ve already funded the shortfall or almost funded it and there is nothing to come clean over? They’ve already been completely transparent about 400k operating loss and the efforts that were underway to try and fund it. The later than usual AGM combined with the podcast doesn’t in itself mean anything, it’s just adding 2 and 2 together and getting 5. I just hope you’re correct. Time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, PedroMoutinho said: I’ve been very clear that I have no connections to either the current or previous regimes. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask questions and scrutinise what is going on whoever the board is or whether people’s mates are on it. I don’t buy into this idea that we should just sit and clap our hands as there are good guys now on the board. Particularly when some of the posters who were rightly critical of previous boards will now not accept any challenge or criticism of what is going on. The current board cannot be considered blameless either in my view considering some of the spending decisions that they have made. Not sure how true that is. I’ve consistently questioned things about the club I don’t agree with however you used to regularly mark me down whenever I questioned anything about the previous board. That doesn’t mean to say I disagree with your opinion on the right to scrutinise anything you see fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Zbairn said: I think it has been made pretty clear on various media channels that we need to find around £400k. It's not a secret ! They have asked the wider fan base to help through calls to join the FSS (or the Patrons Group) but this has been largely ignored. Remember they were castigated for the comment re actual numbers joined versus potential core support. Around 600 members of a 4000 core support, is roughly only 15% of our fans signing up to this initiative to help the club. If the fans truly want fan ownership, we really should be doing better than this. I live on the other side of the world and I know that the club is in dire straits so I’ve signed up to the FSS. How the f*ck can fans who live and work in the Falkirk area not know that we’re up shit creek without a paddle? What will it take for them to commit a decent wedge in reasonable numbers; a front page advert/plea in the Falkirk Herald? McGlynn, Smith and the Board standing in the centre circle at half time pleading their case for more help from the fans? We pride ourselves on being the best and most loyal of fans – our current situation and lack of support from the fan base suggests otherwise. Re: the 600+ fans who have signed up to the FSS, and without knowing their personal financial situations, if everyone of us pledged £500 to some sort of fighting fund, that would make a big £300k dent in our £400k black hole. I’ll pony up a monkey, anybody else? (if the missus finds out she’ll go fecking Tonto but what the hell). And before anyone has a go, I’m not trying to be some sort of “I’m a better fan than you”, I’m only trying to help my club. And anyway, my 500 quid would be chickenfeed compared to what some P&B posters have done previously for the club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: I live on the other side of the world and I know that the club is in dire straits so I’ve signed up to the FSS. How the f*ck can fans who live and work in the Falkirk area not know that we’re up shit creek without a paddle? What will it take for them to commit a decent wedge in reasonable numbers; a front page advert/plea in the Falkirk Herald? McGlynn, Smith and the Board standing in the centre circle at half time pleading their case for more help from the fans? We pride ourselves on being the best and most loyal of fans – our current situation and lack of support from the fan base suggests otherwise. Re: the 600+ fans who have signed up to the FSS, and without knowing their personal financial situations, if everyone of us pledged £500 to some sort of fighting fund, that would make a big £300k dent in our £400k black hole. I’ll pony up a monkey, anybody else? (if the missus finds out she’ll go fecking Tonto but what the hell). And before anyone has a go, I’m not trying to be some sort of “I’m a better fan than you”, I’m only trying to help my club. And anyway, my 500 quid would be chickenfeed compared to what some P&B posters have done previously for the club. Something along those lines is what’s needed if indeed we don’t have the necessary funds in place and I’m sure many loyal fans will put their hands in their pockets but we must have the facts. In this case, ignorance most certainly is not bliss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cologne Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Reggie Perrin said: PedroMoutinho really seems to be revelling in this financial crisis which was created by the imbeciles who polluted the Boardroom previously. Almost as if he has an agenda. The financial crisis was created by the current board deciding to spend more in the summer than they had cash reserves to pay for. Still, if it all goes tits up they can always get their acolytes to log onto P&B and blame someone else. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Cologne said: The financial crisis was created by the current board deciding to spend more in the summer than they had cash reserves to pay for. Still, if it all goes tits up they can always get their acolytes to log onto P&B and blame someone else. this is what a biased, bad faith actor looks like. Edited December 2, 2022 by bairn88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) If only we’d had Gary Holt spending more money on longer contracts then we wouldnt be in such a financial mess. f**k me! Edited December 2, 2022 by bairn88 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Situation does read very much like ours did in 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cologne said: The financial crisis was created by the pervious board deciding to spend a wedge on numpties like Sheerin and Holt then having to pay them off and appointing a Commerical director who had no idea what he was doing, letting the clubs Commerical income fall off a cliff. FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: Situation does read very much like ours did in 2012. Hardly. You had debts of over 10 million quid FFS and didn't pay back a single bean. I would hope that we'd never stoop that low. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Firstly what an absolute spillage of bile/shite by some posting on from the outside, many should look at their own clubs situation…….. We've got a serious situation which requires immediate cash/investment/soft loans and the new guys in town have been in long enough to fully review all aspects of the club including the finances. For me there’s more than a concern/worry that they’ve underestimated the P&L. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Cologne said: The financial crisis was created by the current board deciding to spend more in the summer than they had cash reserves to pay for. Still, if it all goes tits up they can always get their acolytes to log onto P&B and blame someone else. I will bite. This ignorance of this post is frankly astounding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab_R_us Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 FALKIRK IN: Rumarn Burrell (Middlesbrough), Coll Donaldson (Ross County), Liam Henderson (Arbroath), Ola Lawal (Chippenham Town), Sean Mackie (Hibernian), Stephen McGinn (Kilmarnock), PJ Morrison (Motherwell), Gary Oliver (Greenock Morton), Finn Yeats (Aberdeen), Nicky Hogarth (Nottingham Forest, loan), Kai Kennedy (Rangers, loan) For League 1, Falkirk has a massive full time squad, much bigger than any other team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Cologne said: The financial crisis was created by the current board deciding to spend more in the summer than they had cash reserves to pay for. Still, if it all goes tits up they can always get their acolytes to log onto P&B and blame someone else. I’m to blame, I kicked the arse right out it during my recent visit to hospitality. If me and my chums hadn’t drank so much we’d probably have the cash for the 4th stand instead of being in this perilous predicament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hardly. You had debts of over 10 million quid FFS and didn't pay back a single bean. I would hope that we'd never stoop that low.Too easy hahahahaha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Arab_R_us said: FALKIRK IN: Rumarn Burrell (Middlesbrough), Coll Donaldson (Ross County), Liam Henderson (Arbroath), Ola Lawal (Chippenham Town), Sean Mackie (Hibernian), Stephen McGinn (Kilmarnock), PJ Morrison (Motherwell), Gary Oliver (Greenock Morton), Finn Yeats (Aberdeen), Nicky Hogarth (Nottingham Forest, loan), Kai Kennedy (Rangers, loan) For League 1, Falkirk has a massive full time squad, much bigger than any other team You forgot Juan Alegria (Rangers, loan), here to help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Cologne said: The financial crisis was created by the current board deciding to spend more in the summer than they had cash reserves to pay for. Still, if it all goes tits up they can always get their acolytes to log onto P&B and blame someone else. Astonishing levels of revisionism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, Arab_R_us said: FALKIRK IN: Rumarn Burrell (Middlesbrough), Coll Donaldson (Ross County), Liam Henderson (Arbroath), Ola Lawal (Chippenham Town), Sean Mackie (Hibernian), Stephen McGinn (Kilmarnock), PJ Morrison (Motherwell), Gary Oliver (Greenock Morton), Finn Yeats (Aberdeen), Nicky Hogarth (Nottingham Forest, loan), Kai Kennedy (Rangers, loan) For League 1, Falkirk has a massive full time squad, much bigger than any other team Only because we can’t shift the dross left over from last season who were scandalously awarded multi year contracts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: 1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said: Hardly. You had debts of over 10 million quid FFS and didn't pay back a single bean. I would hope that we'd never stoop that low. Too easy hahahahaha Wallpapers who laugh at their own jokes are worth a watching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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