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It does seem like the wheels have come off in recent weeks. 

Williamson is a lost cause I'm afraid and will no-doubt look back on his time with us as very frustrating. 

McGuffie I thought was harshly maligned by some but even I've come around to the fact that he needs to be moved on. 

Hetherington continues to be a very poor man's McGinn and even McGinn is now morphing into a poor man's Hetherington which is quite concerning.

We should also be worried by our lack of goals at the moment. It's noticeable that in the last few games our furthest forward players in the box at times have been McKay and McGinn and Oliver when chances have presented themselves. 

Apart from Kennedy's goal at the weekend our advanced players like Morrison, Nesbitt, Alegria and Burrell aren't getting anywhere near what a "form" team should be. 

JMcG does not have his problems to seek at the minute!

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McGinn is being hung out to dry by the imposters, Lawal excepted, playing alongside him.

Hardly surprising that he looks tired later in games given the running he has to do to cover other’s inadequacies.

I would persevere with PJ in goal now that he is fit again, obviously very rusty but a big lad and would free up Hogarth wages for hopefully a competent outfielder.

Surely to God the Manager now sees that one central striker is a complete non starter with the players that we have.

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1 hour ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

I’m not judging him on last night. I had major reservations after we lost 4 goals to Killie when the Crunchie stand was opened and my reservations remain. He doesn’t command his box and his distribution is poor. I don’t think he’s good enough.

He did well after that initial game till he got hurt. Certainly too few games IMO to write him off

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3 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

It’s getting the right 2 to 3 players that worries me and I’m not sure we are good in that respect. Another 2 like PJ or Oliver and I’d rather we didn’t bother tbh.

PJ had a few shocking kick outs last night but he couldn't do anything about the goals and given it was a knee injury he was out with I'm not surprised he had a few skew-wiff kicks on his first game back.

I don't think you'll find anyone arguing with you on Oliver he's rank rotten. 

I'm with @Harry Kinnear the chances of us moving those players on without actually paying them off are slim to none especially given we'll most likely be their last full time club. We all expected McGlynn to work miracles in the summer to move them on and we only managed to pay off Luke Holt.

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Midfielders
Stephen Mcginn - 17 games, 2 goals, 5 assists
Callumn Morrison - 17 games, 6 goals, 3 assists
Aidan Nesbitt - 17 games, 9 assists
Craig Mcguffie - 17 games, 1 goal, 1 assist
Finn Yeats - 17 games, 1 assist
Pearse Carroll - 1 game, 1 assist
Kai Kennedy -  11 games, 2 goals, 2 assists
Ola Lawal - 13 games, 3 goals

Strikers
Rumarn Burrell - 15 games, 4 goals
Gary Oliver - 17 games, 3 goals, 1 assist
Juan Alegria - 15 games, 5 goals, 2 assists

The current stats on how our offensive players have performed in the league so far this season. 

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17 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

Midfielders
Stephen Mcginn - 17 games, 2 goals, 5 assists
Callumn Morrison - 17 games, 6 goals, 3 assists
Aidan Nesbitt - 17 games, 9 assists
Craig Mcguffie - 17 games, 1 goal, 1 assist
Finn Yeats - 17 games, 1 assist
Pearse Carroll - 1 game, 1 assist
Kai Kennedy -  11 games, 2 goals, 2 assists
Ola Lawal - 13 games, 3 goals

Strikers
Rumarn Burrell - 15 games, 4 goals
Gary Oliver - 17 games, 3 goals, 1 assist
Juan Alegria - 15 games, 5 goals, 2 assists

The current stats on how our offensive players have performed in the league so far this season. 

Fair play to Nesbitt that’s a fair amount of assists, it’s a shame folk have made their minds up on him just because of who signed him 🤷‍♂️

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1 hour ago, Reggie Perrin said:

McGinn is being hung out to dry by the imposters, Lawal excepted, playing alongside him.

Hardly surprising that he looks tired later in games given the running he has to do to cover other’s inadequacies.

I would persevere with PJ in goal now that he is fit again, obviously very rusty but a big lad and would free up Hogarth wages for hopefully a competent outfielder.

Surely to God the Manager now sees that one central striker is a complete non starter with the players that we have.

Completely agree with the McGinn bit. I remember McGlynn saying something like 'he won't run any marathons' or words to that effect when he signed him so we knew he wouldn't be going box to box with any sort of pace. I still think he strolls most games but he has nobody next to him to share the burden. Lawal's got to start and we should have Alegria and Burrell together. Unlikely for the former, almost definitely not for the latter!

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10 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said:

Ever since we dropped into League 1 every season has been the same, appoint a new manager or management team and they are going to be our saviour(s) - then reality kicks in and we get disappointed yet again.

When will we ever learn?

GIF by Groundhog Day

If anyone ever thought M&M, Sheerin or Rennie were going to be our saviours then that's on them.

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13 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Fair play to Nesbitt that’s a fair amount of assists for him, it’s a shame folk have made their minds up on him just because of who signed him 🤷‍♂️

Like many others though he's gone off the boil big time. He was dreadful last night.

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7 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Fair play to Nesbitt that’s a fair amount of assists, it’s a shame folk have made their minds up on him just because of who signed him 🤷‍♂️

I still like Nesbitt. Morrison infuriates me far more.

We're going to make the playoffs this season  and once you're there it's very winnable. I could easily see us sneaking up via that route.

It's an abysmal standard of league though this season. Dunfermline are garbage and they're going to stroll it. I think we should be doing better. Results haven't been good enough.

If you were grading McGlynn I'd say B- just now. 

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11 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

Like many others though he's gone off the boil big time. He was dreadful last night.

He has went off the boil but overall the stick he gets is harsh for me! 

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Nesbitt is the best of the crud left over from last season in my opinion. Problem is often we've been playing two out of nesbitt, mcguffie and Oliver every week which never works.  Even when yeats plays for some reason mcglynn seems to play him in a more forward role which I can't fathom and doesn't suit him at all.  Mcginn , lawal and a taiwo/Scott Mackenzie  type player would work okay but we don't have one good enough to play that role as hetherington showed last night. 

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9 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

All about opinions but personally I’d be looking to move Nesbitt on as he simply doesn’t offer enough for me in the majority of games.

Yes you’re right it’s all about opinions. I get why Nesbitt is frustrating but for me he adds a bit of tempo to our play and never hides. 9 assists in 17 is a good record as well. Just my opinion though. 

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21 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

All about opinions but personally I’d be looking to move Nesbitt on as he simply doesn’t offer enough for me in the majority of games.

If you’d asked me around the Fife away game, I would have probably disagreed, and thought he’d (like a couple of others) had turned the corner, however he’s slightly better than a fan dancer, a bit like Morrison McGuffie McKay where you get a one in ten performance. That’s us half way through season and agree he’s one of eight or nine I’d get shot of. 

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20 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

All about opinions but personally I’d be looking to move Nesbitt on as he simply doesn’t offer enough for me in the majority of games.

I'd be happy enough if he managed to move some of McKay, Watson, Henderson, Mackie, Hetherington, Nesbitt, Oliver, McGuffie, Malcolm, Wilson, and Ross on if he can get better in. I also wouldn't be too bothered if he sent Kennedy back to Sevco and he really should be sending Hogarth back to Forest now that PJ is fit.

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28 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

All about opinions but personally I’d be looking to move Nesbitt on as he simply doesn’t offer enough for me in the majority of games.

Probably the only time that I will ever agree with you on here but moving Nesbitt would be a sensible move.

Flatters to deceive but probably one of the few we could get a small fee for.

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10 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

I'd be happy enough if he managed to move some of McKay, Watson, Henderson, Mackie, Hetherington, Nesbitt, Oliver, McGuffie, Malcolm, Wilson, and Ross on if he can get better in. I also wouldn't be too bothered if he sent Kennedy back to Sevco and he really should be sending Hogarth back to Forest now that PJ is fit.

Out of your list I would

definitely keep Watson and Mackie and probably Henderson.

The rest could easily be replaced by better.

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