CallumPar Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 5 hours ago, TheScarf said: Didn't Dunfermline basically keep their squad who got relegated from the Championship last year? No. I’ve seen this claim a few times now and it’s just not true. We have, at most, 4/5 regulars from last season that are still with us. One of them is O’Hara, who has barely played this year. We’ve used 20 players in the league this season: Regulars last season - Comrie, Edwards, Chalmers, O’Hara, arguably Todd - but he was RB ahead of Comrie towards the end, so can’t both be deemed first team/regulars. In and out of team last season - McCann. Sub/backup last season - Todorov, Allan, Mehmet, MacDonald (loaned out), Wighton (loaned out), Breen New/loan signings - Benedictus, Hamilton, Mochrie, Fisher, Mahon, KRH, McGowan, Otoo. First team players that we lost in the summer - Stolarczyk, Donaldson, Ambrose, Thomas, Polworth, Lawless, Dow, Pybus, Dorrans. All of these guys were ahead of this season’s players in the pecking order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Caractacus Potts said: How do you know this? Ayr had a reporter turnover of £1.2m up to June 2022 which I’m pretty sure was lower than ours and we already know John McGlynn was handed an extra £150k on top of his existing budget which still presented a £400k loss despite a projected increase of £600k on income. Ayr are being bankrolled quite handily these days .Lot of investment in the team and stadium. They'll have a considerably bigger budget than us. Edited April 19, 2023 by Shodwall cat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: If by up for a fight I'll pull you up for posting something I disagree with then have at it. Did we come into that game in something that could be perceived as great form? No. With the benefit of hindsight as being used by the Falkirk fan here though it's not unreasonable to say we were midway through an excellent run of form being as it was game 3 of what was ultimately a 6 game run. How do you know it was ultimately a 6 game run? Despite Saturday's mauling, if we win our remaining three matches (we won't) then the run will be much longer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 52 minutes ago, CallumPar said: No. I’ve seen this claim a few times now and it’s just not true. We have, at most, 4/5 regulars from last season that are still with us. One of them is O’Hara, who has barely played this year. We’ve used 20 players in the league this season: Regulars last season - Comrie, Edwards, Chalmers, O’Hara, arguably Todd - but he was RB ahead of Comrie towards the end, so can’t both be deemed first team/regulars. In and out of team last season - McCann. Sub/backup last season - Todorov, Allan, Mehmet, MacDonald (loaned out), Wighton (loaned out), Breen New/loan signings - Benedictus, Hamilton, Mochrie, Fisher, Mahon, KRH, McGowan, Otoo. First team players that we lost in the summer - Stolarczyk, Donaldson, Ambrose, Thomas, Polworth, Lawless, Dow, Pybus, Dorrans. All of these guys were ahead of this season’s players in the pecking order. The last paragraph probably summing up nicely why you went down last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: Ayr are being bankrolled quite handily these days .Lot of investment in the team and stadium. They'll have a considerably bigger budget than us. I am not sure about Ayr having a considerably bigger budget than us. It’s been said before that we are paying Championship wages in L1, and that would not surprise me in the slightest. If their payroll is bigger than ours, I would think it’s by single percentages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hughsie said: The last paragraph probably summing up nicely why you went down last season. It absolutely does. Our squad was horrendously mismanaged last season. Both Grant and Hughes were terrible. Every week, match threads were full of opposition fans saying our squad was too good to go down and we’d come good. Then we’d turn up to the game and play with Matty Todd at RB, Ambrose and Donaldson at CB, Polworth and Lawless looking totally disinterested in midfield and we’d get beat without putting up a fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said: Ayr are being bankrolled quite handily these days .Lot of investment in the team and stadium. They'll have a considerably bigger budget than us. If they are being bankrolled then their turnover would surely be higher. They can’t just put in money and keep it from the accounts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unused sub Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Does anyone know what the difference is prize money wise between finishing 2nd or 3rd in league 1 this season. Tried googling it but couldn't find anything outside of SPL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Bairn Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, unused sub said: Does anyone know what the difference is prize money wise between finishing 2nd or 3rd in league 1 this season. Tried googling it but couldn't find anything outside of SPL. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was £2.50 and a twix more for the 2nd place team over 3rd place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyoldman Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Caractacus Potts said: If they are being bankrolled then their turnover would surely be higher. They can’t just put in money and keep it from the accounts. If they are being bankrolled by way of share purchases or loans it wouldn’t increase turnover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) Anyone know how long it takes Laura in shop to reply to email? Can’t get through on phone, been 2 days by email. (Not a complaint btw ) Edited April 19, 2023 by bairn88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, unused sub said: Does anyone know what the difference is prize money wise between finishing 2nd or 3rd in league 1 this season. Tried googling it but couldn't find anything outside of SPL. A couple of grand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 This was it in 2020. About 7.5k difference. Incidentally, how fucking HORRENDOUS was that division. Much higher standard this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 9 hours ago, grumpyoldman said: If they are being bankrolled by way of share purchases or loans it wouldn’t increase turnover Looking at their accounts it seems there was no share purchases and can’t see any large loans mentioned although admittedly no expert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, bairn88 said: Anyone know how long it takes Laura in shop to reply to email? Can’t get through on phone, been 2 days by email. (Not a complaint btw ) Usually pretty quick. Maybe on hols? Check your junk folder for an OOO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 11 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: This was it in 2020. About 7.5k difference. Incidentally, how fucking HORRENDOUS was that division. Much higher standard this season. Where did you find that? SPFL website from 2019 has very different figures: https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-prize-pot-reaches-25m Think your figures maybe include TV/sponsorship money being significantly reduced or something during covid? Think prize pot is now c. £30m. So assuming same split (don’t think any changes have been voted for) prize money will be roughly: 1st - £150k 2nd - £129k 3rd - £105k 4th - £102k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, CallumPar said: Where did you find that? SPFL website from 2019 has very different figures: https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-prize-pot-reaches-25m Think your figures maybe include TV/sponsorship money being significantly reduced or something during covid? Think prize pot is now c. £30m. So assuming same split (don’t think any changes have been voted for) prize money will be roughly: 1st - £150k 2nd - £129k 3rd - £105k 4th - £102k Honestly can't remember - as you can see it was at 0023 and I was about 93% asleep! I did a google search and I think it was on a Record article from back then. I couldn't find an article with this year's figures. Yours will probably be pretty close, I imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthegoalline1876 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 22 hours ago, martin ritchie said: Was in the south stand for the first time in ages last night, has anyone had the misfortune of sitting near a mouthy fake tanned 20years oldish female who by the way she was talking she seems to work or volunteer for the club/foundation/junior bairns. She spent the whole game calling the players Stephen,Kai, Gary etc. According to her the players are overworked, the fans are scum for criticising/booing, it was all the pitches fault for our poor performance(same pitch for both teams) and she was even arguing with 60/70 year old fans...she also wants our play off games moved to Broadwood since it has a better pitch.....what an eye opener last night was Fortunately not ! Although in the South Stand, not too far from a female who was very loud and vocal (wasn't me !) Someone said they wouldn't like to take home an opened pay packet ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Honestly can't remember - as you can see it was at 0023 and I was about 93% asleep! I did a google search and I think it was on a Record article from back then. I couldn't find an article with this year's figures. Yours will probably be pretty close, I imagine. Don’t think they actually release them every year, to be fair. Your extra money from the cup run will be greater than the prize money lost from dropping down a league place. If you win the playoffs, your overall prize money would be greater than ours and you’d still achieve promotion. If you’re just looking at 2nd v 3rd, then you’ll already have plugged that gap with your cup run. Although the extra £20k or so would obviously still be better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Honestly can't remember - as you can see it was at 0023 and I was about 93% asleep! I did a google search and I think it was on a Record article from back then. I couldn't find an article with this year's figures. Yours will probably be pretty close, I imagine. This one ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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