Guest Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 hours ago, PedroMoutinho said: Very clear now for me from that podcast that McGlynn is being kept for financial reasons. The board have clearly decided that McGlynn with a slightly smaller budget is better than a new manager with a smaller budget. The risk is you end up with the worst of both worlds by having to punt McGlynn in September and bring in a new manager who can’t build his own squad. Very clear? At no point was that indicated? He actually said an increase in revenues and he will get more. Just make up stuff to justify your narrative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Duncan Freemason said: Yogi won it in 2015. With Terry Butcher's team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 8 hours ago, bairn88 said: Would have to agree, in his last 3 seasons with him they finished 1st, 3rd and 5th. A challenge cup win or 2 in there too? All probably could be seen as overachievements. And yet, barely a good word to be said Ian Murray who has finished 7th, (their worst season out of the 4) seems much higher thought of. Very odd. Maybe the goodwillie debacle destroyed all the good work - in which case I’d say fair enough, that was a sorry episode. Not to get into it all again because it is a Falkirk thread but obviously the Goodwillie episode had a huge effect given the damage it did to the club. However, we were also a mess on the field for the last 5 months of his tenure and that is the context of which Murray is judged with his budget cut and the existing budget used up on unavailable players or overpaid for their worth (similar to what McGlynn himself inherited at Falkirk). Also, the last 19 of the season under McGlynn’s tenure, we were the worst team in the league (table below). So Murray inherited a club in turmoil, had his budget cut by 50% (the board had agreed with McGlynn to have a one off push at the title given the league was wide open, which was part of the reason McGlynn left, he didn’t want to stick around with a reduced budget) and also a team on the field which had spent the last half of the season as the worst team in the league. Hence why 7th was accepted as a decent job this year. If you asked Raith Rovers fans their opinion of McGlynn in December 2021, you’d have almost unanimous support but it’s hard to overstate how disastrous his last 5/6 months were both on and off the field and that destroyed his reputation for a lot. FWIW, I put most of the blame for the ridiculous contracts at the boards door, most managers would take advantage of that sort of thing, it is on the board to police that. Thankfully the new owners seem more active and switched on in that regard. # Club W D L Goals +/- Pts 1 Kilmarnock FC 19 11 5 3 30:16 14 38 2 Arbroath 19 9 7 3 26:15 11 34 3 Morton 19 7 6 6 21:19 2 27 4 Inverness CT 19 6 7 6 28:22 6 25 5 Hamilton Acad. 19 6 7 6 23:23 0 25 6 Ayr United 19 6 6 7 23:23 0 24 7 Partick Thistle 19 6 6 7 17:24 -7 24 8 Dunfermline A. 19 5 6 8 18:25 -7 21 9 Queen o. t. S. 19 5 4 10 20:28 -8 19 10 Raith Rovers 19 3 8 8 17:28 -11 17 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 hours ago, brokeville said: I’d rather watch attacking entertaining football. We’re all entitled to our opinion. My favourite Falkirk poster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, R.R.FC said: Not to get into it all again because it is a Falkirk thread but obviously the Goodwillie episode had a huge effect given the damage it did to the club. However, we were also a mess on the field for the last 5 months of his tenure and that is the context of which Murray is judged with his budget cut and the existing budget used up on unavailable players or overpaid for their worth (similar to what McGlynn himself inherited at Falkirk). Also, the last 19 of the season under McGlynn’s tenure, we were the worst team in the league (table below). So Murray inherited a club in turmoil, had his budget cut by 50% (the board had agreed with McGlynn to have a one off push at the title given the league was wide open, which was part of the reason McGlynn left, he didn’t want to stick around with a reduced budget) and also a team on the field which had spent the last half of the season as the worst team in the league. Hence why 7th was accepted as a decent job this year. If you asked Raith Rovers fans their opinion of McGlynn in December 2021, you’d have almost unanimous support but it’s hard to overstate how disastrous his last 5/6 months were both on and off the field and that destroyed his reputation for a lot. FWIW, I put most of the blame for the ridiculous contracts at the boards door, most managers would take advantage of that sort of thing, it is on the board to police that. Thankfully the new owners seem more active and switched on in that regard. # Club W D L Goals +/- Pts 1 Kilmarnock FC 19 11 5 3 30:16 14 38 2 Arbroath 19 9 7 3 26:15 11 34 3 Morton 19 7 6 6 21:19 2 27 4 Inverness CT 19 6 7 6 28:22 6 25 5 Hamilton Acad. 19 6 7 6 23:23 0 25 6 Ayr United 19 6 6 7 23:23 0 24 7 Partick Thistle 19 6 6 7 17:24 -7 24 8 Dunfermline A. 19 5 6 8 18:25 -7 21 9 Queen o. t. S. 19 5 4 10 20:28 -8 19 10 Raith Rovers 19 3 8 8 17:28 -11 17 Also the only team in the division that season to fail to beat our shambolic mob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: Also the only team in the division that season to fail to beat our shambolic mob. Sackable offence on its own IMO. Our performance in the 2-0 defeat at EEP after our cup win was a real low among lows in the second half of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Airfield leaving rangers, part 1 of the plan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzler Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, bairn88 said: Airfield leaving rangers, part 1 of the plan is part 2 him investing or playing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, bobbydazzler said: is part 2 him investing or playing? Part 2 is letting us dream 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, bairn88 said: Part 2 is letting us dream 20 minutes ago, bairn88 said: Part 2 is letting us dream Part 3 Surely there’s enough business people that would be able to fund him ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 21/05/2023 at 22:30, Bairnardo said: His stock is very low on P&B. I don't think it's very low overall. I think the players will get it long before McGlynn does from the fans. Having taken a look through the posts I reckon that there are 9 for keeping McGlynn, almost all reluctantly, and 4 for getting shot of him. Sorry, 5 including myself. The cup run money has saved the club, undoubtedly, but it has also saved McGlynn's job, for now anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokeville Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Springfield said: Part 3 Surely there’s enough business people that would be able to fund him ? Part 4 All our budget used up on one player 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, brokeville said: Part 4 All our budget used up on one player Worth it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, brokeville said: Part 4 All our budget used up on one player Would probably be better spent than spunking it on 6 or 7 dumplings. At least it would make me happy anyway Edited May 23, 2023 by Harry Kinnear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStander1876 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I reckon we'd only agree if he was on under 1.5k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said: I reckon we'd only agree if he was on under 1.5k I don’t think there’s any chance of it happening but we are all allowed to dream every now and then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toun Clock Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 hours ago, 18BAIRN76 said: Distinct lack of recently Falkirk one of the only clubs to make a new signing, be grateful lads c'mon. 19 hours ago, GeordieBairn said: Wonder if Regan Hendry would drop to this level. Probably has no end of offers from the 2 divisions above. No, no he wouldn't. 17 hours ago, brokeville said: Let’s be honest McGlynn has us playing attractive football for 3/4 of the season and unfortunately came up short when it mattered. Too many players lost form at the critical time. Would we rather watch McPakes team grinding out one goal wins with little or no flair? I think not. I’d give the management team another season and hopefully with decent signings we can win the league playing a better style of football. LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbairn Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Having taken a look through the posts I reckon that there are 9 for keeping McGlynn, almost all reluctantly, and 4 for getting shot of him. Sorry, 5 including myself. The cup run money has saved the club, undoubtedly, but it has also saved McGlynn's job, for now anyway. make that 6 ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Springfield said: From the podcast it was very much made clear that the club is desperately relying on all supporters/sponsors/patrons/FSS inputting if not equal to last season, but somehow increasing numbers to give more funds to McGlynn. If I’ve picked up correctly the club are going to cut the budget so that we move away from the last ten/fifteen years of starting each season with a reported -400K. I fully understand that this model is unsustainable, but a huge amount and can only confirm PT/hybrid football. PM covered this in an earlier post, surely now the club need to reach out to others for investment? The thing is any money put in out with gate receipts is not an investment it's a donation. As with any donation people can only put in so much so that income source should be seen as a bonus separate . Fans commendably came up with £400k last season and that is not sustainable. With the club not having one physical asset to borrow against Falkirk are more exposed to people's personal finances than most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: The thing is any money put in out with gate receipts is not an investment it's a donation. As with any donation people can only put in so much so that income source should be seen as a bonus separate . Fans commendably came up with £400k last season and that is not sustainable. With the club not having one physical asset to borrow against Falkirk are more exposed to people's personal finances than most. Which other clubs in Scotland are borrowing money from financial institutions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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