Quitongo's Left Peg Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 He's been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 So who else gets blame for Blackburns abysmal season A bad manager, Kean is a bad manager Well you state he done nothing wrong in getting the job, do you know that for fact? not just me, think you'll find the Blackburn support feel the same way Um, it is obviously a multitude of factors. Nothing is ever so black and white. Er, the assertion was that managers spending money and making the team worse is rare - which is so blatantly incorrect. That's not how it works at all, there's no evidence whatsoever that he has done anything wrong in getting the job - so, ergo, until you find something that is your personal attacks are just closet sectarianism. Do you hate all Glasgow Catholics or just some? are you kidding on, have you ever heard of a film critic being in entertainment one way or another gives way to both praise and criticism Wether it is a right or not (we know it isnt a right) personal abuse has been in football for decades, longer even, Kean knew what he was getting himself into, if he didnt like it he can go Have you ever heard of a film critic shouting personal abuse at those making/distributing a film? Are you aware what an utterly stupid response that was? It's up there with your best in the thread, to be honest. Slavery went on for years, the war on drugs went on for years, the Royal Family went on for years, it doesn't make it correct. And the personal abuse Kean has suffered is far and beyond what most people suffer - to not respond to it shows he is a bigger man than the scum Blackburn cowards shouting abuse at him from the stand. funnily enough many would argue that he isnt doing his job, he took blackburn down ffs, that wasnt in his job description, the fact that he was doing his job badly and seemingly getting away with it angered the fans no doubt, Nobody is this stupid, surely? Well, I'm sure most comedians would tell you they have been booed off stage at some point in their career. They also have to put up with a fair deal of heckling, even if they are good. Comparing football, where crowd noise is an integral part of the entertainment, with the cinema or a play is just silly though. you'd be thrown out of the cinema if you cheered every time the good guy delivered a funny line as well. Many venues, like the Stand, explicitly banned heckling and, in the modern era, you are far more likely to be the target of abuse from the comedian than the other way around. It's not as if footballers and managers regularly abuse the crowd and sometimes get some back. Okay, in what other sport is personal abuse allowed? Cricket? Rugby? Tennis? Golf? Why only football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Why do people debate anything with Supras ? Thread after thread ruined by people taking his bait. The man would argue black is white. I put him on ignore about a week ago, if others would stop quoting him then this forum would be a lovely place. I'm also not sure some of the stuff he comes out with is "bait", and if it is a fishing trip it's the most tedious, repetitive one I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Cricket? Rugby? Tennis? Golf? Why only football? Well, it quite clearly isn't just football. Apart from golf, in all of those sports fans can and do boo players. John McEnroe was booed at Wimbledon, and players are regularly booed at the French Open if the crowd takes a disliking to them. England cricketers are often heckled by the Austrial crowds in away Ashes matches and rugby players are booed and jeered if, for example, they commit a dangerous foul on one of the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19224402 Looks like hes been threatened with the sack if the team struggles next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbling Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Steve Kean Till I Die. Stay strong bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbling Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Blackburn up to third. In Kean we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 they looked good, if not got a lucky break against Leicester, still think the championship is his level though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbling Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 they looked good, if not got a lucky break against Leicester, still think the championship is his level though I don't agree, Kean with his own players will be a hell of a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonMan Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 When I question Allan Moore's position at Morton, I always take a moment to think of what it would be like if we had Kean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradHorse Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Steve Kean just sorta reminds me of The Little Engine That Could. He just keeps plugging away, toiling and striving; generally pissing into the wind and getting a bit pile of pish right in his face for his endevours. Makes good viewing, I enjoy Steve Kean at Blackburn - it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbling Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 When I question Allan Moore's position at Morton, I always take a moment to think of what it would be like if we had Kean. kean > Moore. Kean more than 90% of premiership managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 kean > Moore. Kean more than 90% of premiership managers. Are you Steve Kean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I feel sorry for Steve Kean, he should never have really got the job and ever since he's been on a hiding to nothing. The fans have this deep rooted hate for him for getting them relegated while the "millionaire" owners have used him as a scapegoat while the do whatever it is they're actually doing... Think he'll have Blackburn around the play-offs, and then he'll probably get sacked just as the fans are changing their opinions of him, such is the fickle ironic nature of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Ponce Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't think there are any good guys in this story. Kean - not a good manager, and judging by that video a bit of a knob and the possibly shady way he got the job. The board - amusingly clueless, but undoubtedly harming the club. The fans - Acted like utter scum in their treatment of Kean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't think there are any good guys in this story. Kean - not a good manager, and judging by that video a bit of a knob and the possibly shady way he got the job. The board - amusingly clueless, but undoubtedly harming the club. The fans - Acted like utter scum in their treatment of Kean. FFS, he's bullshitting a wee bit in a bar whilst he is drinking. It's hardly the worst crime in the world. Plus he's spent most of his life as a normal person, he probably wasn't used to being such an incredibly public figure who gets videos taken of him in bars. Those taking the video came off far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Ponce Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 FFS, he's bullshitting a wee bit in a bar whilst he is drinking. It's hardly the worst crime in the world. Plus he's spent most of his life as a normal person, he probably wasn't used to being such an incredibly public figure who gets videos taken of him in bars. Those taking the video came off far worse. That's true just though he was a was a bit of a tool, but what you say makes sense, still the way he got the job looks none the less dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 he should never have really got the job and ever since he's been on a hiding to nothing. That's because he engineered his predecessor's sacking by manipulating the clueless new owners and refused to do the decent thing and resign as he steered the club into the Championship. What he's had to put with isn't pretty but he brought it all on himself. Compare that to Gary Megson, who Bolton fans utterly reviled simply for Not Being Sam Allardyce even when he did a reasonable if unspectacular job with them, including nearly beating Bayern Munich away in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 That's because he engineered his predecessor's sacking by manipulating the clueless new owners and refused to do the decent thing and resign as he steered the club into the Championship. What he's had to put with isn't pretty but he brought it all on himself. Compare that to Gary Megson, who Bolton fans utterly reviled simply for Not Being Sam Allardyce even when he did a reasonable if unspectacular job with them, including nearly beating Bayern Munich away in Europe. 1) Backdoor dealings - of which Thumper knows nothing 2) Voluntarily giving up hundreds of thousands of pounds when a team you manage get relegated - not done, none of the managers who were relegated that season resigned. 3) Vile personal abuse - apparently brought on himself because of 1 which is speculation and 2 which is holding him to standards above his peers. 4) Including "nearly beating Bayern Munich away" as some kind of relevant achievement. Yep, this post contains a lot of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Why would he resign? No manager should ever be seen as seeing it as some sort of moral obligation. They need to be employed. There are managers that do it, and more fool them. They're idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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