williemillersmoustache Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said: Just think of the amount of army boots the military could have bought with the tax money owed by Rangers. As I said at the time, ~£100m owed, Osprey body armour (not universally available at time of Iraq deployment ) ~£1k each Army < 100k strong. If rangers had paid their fucking taxes, every single soldier (who they w**k themselves into a frenzy about at any given opportunity) could have been deployed with personal body armour. Their cheating cost lives. End of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said: I can only hope some tax demands will be falling through the doors of the following, http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34118126 Especially the biggest beneficiary - SDM got £6.3M EBT beneficiaries 1 September 2015 From the section Glasgow & West Scotland These are external links and will open in a new window Share this with Facebook Share this with Twitter Share this with Messenger Share this with Email Share This table contains the names of Rangers players, coaches and staff who were beneficiaries of the Murray Group Remuneration Trust, and how much they received through that trust. It also lists the names of people where the BBC has seen evidence that they received side-letters - a promise to make contributions to their individual sub-trusts. BBC Scotland asked everyone in the Employee Benefit Trust scheme featured in the documentary Rangers: The Men Who Sold the Jerseys, broadcast in 2012, about their use of the trust. None would tell us anything about their EBTs. PLEASE NOTE: due to a change in the BBC's website layout, the previous version of this page is unable to display. This page is a copy of the original page and contains the same information. Rangers Name Profile Amount Side letter evidence seen by BBC? Name Profile Amount Side letter evidence seen by BBC? Alan Hutton Hutton made his debut in 2002 and featured in 94 Rangers games, before a £9m move to Spurs. £364,000 No Alex McLeish McLeish managed Rangers from 2001-06. He won seven major honours at the club. £1.7m Yes Alex Rae Midfielder who arrived at Ibrox in 2004 and spent two years there. He played 34 games and scored once. £569,000 Yes Andrei Kanchelskis Russian winger arrived from Fiorentina in 1998 for £5.5m. Moved four years later to Southampton. £145,000 No Andrew Dickson Head of football administration at Rangers since 2003. Previously financial controller at Ibrox club. £33,000 No Arthur Numan Dutch full-back arrived at Rangers from PSV Eindhoven in 1998 for £4.5m. Played 118 times. £510,000 Yes Barry Ferguson Former youth player who became Rangers captain. Played at Ibrox from 1996-2003 and 2005-2009. £2.5m Yes Bert Konterman Dutch defender signed by Dick Advocaat for £4.5m in 2000. Played 79 matches for Rangers. £300,000 No Bert Van Lingen Bert Van Lingen was Rangers assistant manager under Dick Advocaat from 1998 to 2002. £65,000 No Billy Dodds Scotland international arrived in a £1.5m deal from Dundee United. Scored 21 goals in four years. £190,000 No Bob Malcolm Central defender started his career with Rangers in 1997. Played 88 games. Left for Derby County in 2006. £125,000 No Campbell Ogilvie At club from 1978 to 2005 as general secretary and later a director. Now president of the SFA. £95,000 No Carlos Cuellar Spanish centre-half arrived from Osasuna in deal worth £2.37m in 2007. Moved to Aston Villa in 2008. £448,255 Yes Chris Burke Started career at Rangers, playing 96 games from 2002-2009. Left for Cardiff City. Now with Birmingham City. £55,000 No Christian Nerlinger German midfielder signed from Borrusia Dortmund in 2001 and left in 2004. Now has role at Bayern Munich. £1.8m Yes Claudio Caniggia Argentinian World Cup finalist signed from Dundee for £1m in 2001. He played 50 times for Rangers. £1m No Craig Moore Australian centre-half played more than 90 games from 1994-1998. Returned in 1999 and stayed until 2005. £1.1m Yes Dado Prso Croatian striker was free transfer in 2004. Scored 50 goals in 108 games. £1.9m Yes Dan Eggen Norwegian central defender signed in 2003 from Spanish club Alaves. Did not appear for the first team. £68,000 Yes Sir David MurrayOwned club Ownership period from 1988-2011 saw club win 15 titles and 26 cups. Sold shares to Craig Whyte for £1. £6.3m No Dick Advocaat Rangers manager from 1998-2002. Spent almost £74m to win five trophies, including two titles. £1.5m No Douglas Odam Finance director for 15 years. Left club in 2003 to take up a role within Sir David Murray's business empire. £119,000 No Egil Ostenstad Norwegian forward signed from Blackburn on free transfer in 2003. Played only 11 matches for the Ibrox club .£370,000 Yes Fernando Ricksen Dutch right-back signed in 2000 from AZ Alkmaar for £3.75m. Scored 13 times in 182 games. Left in 2006. £684,225 Yes Federico Nieto Argentinian striker joined on loan deal in 2005 from Almagro. Scored once in three matches played. £24,500 No Gavin Rae Midfielder joined Rangers from Dundee in 2004 for a fee of £250,000. Transferred to Cardiff in 2007. £376,000 Yes George Adams Ex-player was head of youth development between 2003-2005. Now director of football at Ross County. £30,000 No Graeme Souness Player/manager of Rangers from 1986-1991. Went on to manage Liverpool, Newcastle and Blackburn. £30,000 No Gregory Vignal French defender joined on loan from Liverpool in 2004 and played 43 times. Joined Portsmouth in 2005. £173,000 Yes Ian McGuinness Ibrox club doctor was sacked after Paul Le Guen left. Moved on to Newcastle United and then joined Aston Villa. £25,400 Yes Ian Murray Midfielder was free transfer from Hibernian in 2006. Played 43 games. Joined Norwich City in 2007. £95,000 No Jan Wouters Former Dutch midfielder joined as a coach under Dick Advocaat, then Alex McLeish. Left in 2006. £285,000 Yes Jean-Alain Boumsong French centre-half joined in 2004 on free transfer. Signed for Newcastle in £8m deal after just 18 games. £630,000 Yes Jerome Bonnissel French left-back who arrived in 2003 from Bordeaux. Played three games before joining Fulham. £48,000 Yes Jesper Christiansen Danish goalkeeper signed in 2000 as injury cover.Played just three times for Rangers and left in 2004. £320,000 No Joel Le Hir Paul Le Guen appointed physiotherapist from 2006-2007. Now with Le Guen at Oman national team. £28,275 Yes John Greig Played for club from 1961-1978. Went on to manage Rangers from 1978-83. Later became a director. £40,000 No John McClelland Appointed a director in 2000. Was chairman from 2002-2004. Resigned as non-executive director last year. £225,000 No Julien Rodriguez French centre-half signed from Monaco in 2005 for £1m. Played 34 matches then left for Marseille in 2007. £638,000 Yes Kevin Muscat Australian defender joined from Wolves in 2002 on free transfer. Played 22 games. Joined Millwall in 2003. £1m Yes Kris Boyd Signed from Kilmarnock in 2006 for £500,000. Scored 101 goals. Joined Middlesbrough in 2010. £215,000 Yes Libor Sionko Czech midfielder signed from Austria Vienna in 2006. Played 18 matches. Joined Copenhagen in 2007. £178,000 Yes Lorenzo Amoruso Italian defender cost £4m from Fiorentina in 1997. Moved to Blackburn Rovers for £1.4m in 2003. £639,000 Yes Martin Bain Chief executive of Rangers from 2005-2011. Resigned after David Murray sold club to Craig Whyte for £1. £249,000 No Marvin Andrews Centre-half from Trinidad and Tobago joined from Livingston in 2004. Played 43 matches, scoring four times. £316,025 Yes Maurice Ross Played 78 games for Rangers from 2000-2005, scoring twice before moving to Sheffield Wednesday. £120,000 No Michael Ball English left-back signed from Everton in 2001 for £6.5m. Played 55 games. Joined PSV Eindhoven in 2005. £1.4m Yes Michael Mols Dutch striker joined Rangers under Dick Advocaat. He arrived in 1999 and spent five years at Ibrox. £260,000 Yes Mikel Arteta Spanish midfielder joined in 2002 and played 50 matches, scoring 12 goals. Moved to Everton. £674,603 Yes Nacho Novo Spanish striker joined in 2004 from Dundee for £450,000. Played 178 games in six years, scoring 47 times. £1.2m Yes Neil McCann Winger joined from Hearts in 1998 for £2m and played over 100 games. Now a media pundit for Sky Sports. £500,000 Yes Nuno Capucho Portugal winger who arrived in 2003 for £700,000. Featured in 22 games, scoring five goals. £970,000 No Olivier Bernard French defender arrived on a free transfer in 2005 via Lyon and Newcastle. Played nine times. £224,000 Yes Paolo Vanoli Italian left-back joined from Bologna in 2003 and played in 28 matches for Rangers, scoring once. £592,000 Yes Paul Le Guen French manager replaced Alex McLeish in 2006. Left in January 2007 after a string of poor results. £201,250 Yes Pedro Mendes Portuguese midfielder joined in 2008 for £3m. Played 39 games and joined Vitória Guimarães in 2010. £1m Yes Peter Lovenkrands Danish winger arrived in 2000 from Akademisk Boldklub for £1.3m. Played 129 games and scored 37 times. £902,000 Yes Robert Reilly Robert Reilly was Rangers' commercial director and helped generate income for the Ibrox club. £105,000 No Ronald De Boer Dutch midfielder joined in 2000 under Dick Advocaat. Scored 39 goals in four years for the club. £1.2m Yes Ronald Waterreus Dutch goalkeeper joined Rangers in 2004 from Manchester City. Played 49 matches for the Ibrox club. £510,000 Yes Sasa Papac Bosnian left-back arrived in 2006 from Austria Vienna for £450,000. Played 161 games. Left in May 2012. £319,000 Yes Sotirios Kyrgiakos Greek centre-half signed from Panathinaikos in 2005. Left in 2006. Played 54 matches and scored once. £532,200 Yes Stefan Klos German keeper signed in 1999 for £800,000. Played over 200 times. Left in 2007. £2m Yes Stephane Wiertelak French fitness/physiotherapy coach joined Rangers in 2006 under Paul Le Guen. Now works at Rennes. £28,275 Yes Steven Davis Northern Ireland midfielder and club captain. Played more than 140 times, scoring 17 goals for Rangers. £600,000 Yes Steven Smith Defender came through youth ranks and made debut in 2004. Moved to Norwich then on to US side Portland Timbers. £7,500 No Steven Thompson Joined from Dundee Utd in 2003 for £200,000. Left Rangers in 2006 to join Cardiff City. £485,000 Yes Tero Penttila Finnish defender joined in 1999 for £300,000 from Haka Valkeakoski. Left Rangers in 2002 to join HJK Helsinki. £140,000 No Thomas Buffel Belgian midfielder joined in 2005 for £2.3m from Feyenoord. Scored 11 goals and left in 2008. £1.2m Yes Tore Andre Flo Norwegian striker joined from Chelsea in 2000 for £12m. Scored 39 times for Rangers. Sold for £6.75m to Sunderland in 2002. £1.3m No Yves Colleau Former French midfielder served as assistant to Paul Le Guen at Rennes, Lyon and Rangers from 2006-2007. £106,200 Yes Zurab Khizanishvili Georgian defender joined on a free transfer from Dundee in 2003. Moved from Rangers to Blackburn Rovers in 2005. £405,000 Yes All I see is a list of new columnists for the Daily Record, and pundits on Sportsound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 A massive shout out to the likes of Alex Thompson and the Rangers Tax Case (below) for their part in exposing the biggest episode of cheating in the history of British sport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: A massive shout out to the likes of Alex Thompson and the Rangers Tax Case (below) for their part in exposing the biggest episode of cheating in the history of British sport. Hear hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The fans and the clubs must demand justice. This must not be swept under the carpet. Heads must roll and titles and cup wins removed from the records! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Quote 11 July 14 / Christopher Jack, Group Senior Sports Writer / @Chris_Jack89 DEREK JOHNSTONE today demanded an apology from some of the most high-profile names in Scottish football in the wake of Rangers' victory over the taxman. He said: "A lot of people in the game should hang their heads in shame. Rangers are owed a huge apology." HM Revenue and Customs this week lost their appeal to the 'big tax case' verdict that ruled Rangers were not guilty of wrong-doing during Sir David Murray's time at the helm. The spectre of the case cast a huge cloud over the club before a disastrous chain of events unfolded that led to Ally McCoist's side dropping down to the Third Division two years ago. On Wednesday, the Union of Fans hit out at SFA chief Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster of the SPFL, Stephen Thompson, Rod Petrie, Peter Lawwell and lawyer Rod McKenzie for their actions and comments during Rangers' troubles. DJ told SportTimes: "They all came to the conclusion that Rangers were guilty before anything was proven. "They all had their say and every one has been proven wrong. "The most famous two words that were spouted was 'sporting integrity'. Well, where is the sporting integrity in what has happened to Rangers? The club and the fans have been proven right. "I hope the club are recompensed for everything they have missed out on in the last two years." Despite being cleared for the second time in the courts, the ruling is a bitter-sweet one for Rangers fans and the club as Ally McCoist's side look to complete their journey back to the top flight this term. But Johnstone insists the actions of some should never be forgotten after Rangers and the Light Blue legions were vindicated once again. He said: "A lot of people in the media jumped on the bandwagon as well. It was all built on ifs, buts and maybes, and too many people lined up to stick the boot into Rangers. "It was absolute rubbish. I think there should be many, many apologies sent to Rangers in the next few days. "It is good that it has all come out and Rangers have been vindicated. That is fantastic. "But there are a lot of people who will have their heads buried in the sand and will be keeping a low profile in the next few weeks." http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/13285157.amp/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 c***s. Vile cheating c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The titles they "won" during this period should be voided. The record book should show "N/A". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_bairn Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This thread will never end 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylothedog Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just noticed that David Murray is attacking HMRC as creditors of the liquidated club will get less cash now. Yes he said liquidated club. CLUB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 On 02/07/2017 at 23:53, hellbhoy said: The Rangers papped out of Europe on Tuesday night followed by a massive kick in the baws the next day by finding out the court judgement went against them. Tic wet dream, copyright of Tedi. ^^^^ Should have put a bet on both and do I now claim the title of soothsayer? For my next vision into the future!, Mike Ashleys new deal with The Rangers to supply kits will be even more erroneous than the last deal because Ashley did in fact have King by the balls and is squeezing them harder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylothedog Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yeah ok David you are right.... People not getting what you owed them is someone elses fault..... My Point was that it was the club that got liquidated, not the company. Meaning he admits it's a new club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I expect the football authorities to continue the corruption that Rangers spawned, it's mind blowing to me what they have been allowed to get away with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The SFA have apparently had a meeting toady to discuss how to deal with the influx of E-mails from disgruntled fans on how to deal with them. And it's not just from Tic fans either as they have been joined by many other clubs supporters demanding that justice be done and I am certain the Tic fans will be bombarding UEFA as well because of the Supreme Court case outcome. I'm just about sure the SFA will release at some point that the matter was dealt with the SPL commission at the time and that the correct punishment was handed out because they adhered to their own amended rulebooks produced the year before Rangers went tits up. They weren't caught in the act although they were fined for breaching the rules? Imagine the SFA & the former SPL board directors rewriting their rule books so that their demented clone could claim titles they knew the dead club cheated every other club for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) The SFA's statement: Quote The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective. In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment. The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions. Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments. The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope. Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time. Sweep sweep sweep. Edited July 5, 2017 by The Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Jimmy Shand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, hellbhoy said: The SFA have apparently had a meeting toady to discuss how to deal with the influx of E-mails from disgruntled fans on how to deal with them. And it's not just from Tic fans either as they have been joined by many other clubs supporters demanding that justice be done and I am certain the Tic fans will be bombarding UEFA as well because of the Supreme Court case outcome. I'm just about sure the SFA will release at some point that the matter was dealt with the SPL commission at the time and that the correct punishment was handed out because they adhered to their own amended rulebooks produced the year before Rangers went tits up. They weren't caught in the act although they were fined for breaching the rules? Imagine the SFA & the former SPL board directors rewriting their rule books so that their demented clone could claim titles they knew the dead club cheated every other club for. Just now, The Master said: The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective. In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment. The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions. Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments. The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope. Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time. Sweep sweep sweep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said: The titles they "won" during this period should be voided. The record book should show "N/A". But they won't be. And it won't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, mylothedog said: Just noticed that David Murray is attacking HMRC as creditors of the liquidated club will get less cash now. Yes he said liquidated club. CLUB I read that myself. Although I didn't notice the bit about "club"! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Dave not been arrested then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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