Hedgecutter Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Does that mean you'll be getting back home to check on the laptop laters?????? I'm on a PC now, hence how I noticed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 St Mirren statement specifically mentions exit clauses that sponsors could use. Surely it's upto St Mirren and every other club to sign and live within contracts that cover all eventualities rather than depend on clubs they don't give a flying fcuk about to bail them out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrovianmonk Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Can Scottish football not show it's own games? There's no way Sky are paying more than they perceive they're making. They may be using SPL football in Scotland as a loss leader to get people to watch EPL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 The current deal has 2 years to go. Anda - if the current deal involves 4 OF games then how was that possible - say CELfish had been 7th prior to the split 2 years ago.What happens then - rigging to get them into top 6? These are just things Orcs/the Daily Retard make up. I've yet to see anyone definitively tell me what the old/new Sky contracts would involve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just thinking we have one month to kick off. For this plan to work 1 they will have to reorganise fixture lists- how long does that take? 2 season tickets costs will go up or down depending on this plan- Are people who have already bought them going to be charged more/less? Utter chaos 3 they are going to have rewrite the SFL/SPL rules- takes them two years to vote on who makes the tea.. 4 clubs have already made financial plans for this season, they are going to change? - spend more- spend less/ Thats just the obvious ones. There are probaly a lot more stuff that are in the way before this can even become possible... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 They may be using SPL football in Scotland as a loss leader to get people to watch EPL. Do Tesco sell bags of shite as a loss leader to sell their wares? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just thinking we have one month to kick off. For this plan to work 1 they will have to reorganise fixture lists- how long does that take? 2 season tickets costs will go up or down depending on this plan- Are people who have already bought them going to be charged more/less? Utter chaos 3 they are going to have rewrite the SFL/SPL rules- takes them two years to vote on who makes the tea.. 4 clubs have already made financial plans for this season, they are going to change? - spend more- spend less/ Thats just the obvious ones. There are probaly a lot more stuff that are in the way before this can even become possible... Why would any of those things happen? The SPL would still have 12 teams. Dundee/Dunfermline would replace "Club 12" in the fixture list. SFL1 would still have 10 teams. Sevco Rangers would replace Dundee/Dunfermline in the fixture list. Why would season ticket prices change? All clubs except Sevco Rangers and Dundee/Dunfermline would be playing the same number of games in the same division. The SPL and SFL would not be merging for another year. Clubs are going to have to alter financial plans regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Anda - if the current deal involves 4 OF games then how was that possible - say CELfish had been 7th prior to the split 2 years ago.What happens then - rigging to get them into top 6? These are just things Orcs/the Daily Retard make up. I've yet to see anyone definitively tell me what the old/new Sky contracts would involve. I don't know what's involved in contracts, but I'd be surprised if contracts contain anything that encourages sport to do the shit suggested over the last few months, don't think UEFA/FIFA rules would accept such clauses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Surely it's upto St Mirren and every other club to sign and live within contracts that cover all eventualities rather than depend on clubs they don't give a flying fcuk about to bail them out. We're talking about a once in 125 years situation here. Might as well budget based on David Icke being right about Arran being underwater. This is an extremely rare situation exacerbated by some very unfortunate global circumstances. I don't think clubs should budget based on the most valuable club in the country going tits up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutton34 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Exclusive: Rangers / Sevco to do a 'Third Lanark' on March 20th 2013. http://uk.news.yahoo...-223223816.html The international day of happiness as opposed to yesterdays SPL/SFL Cockwomble announcement which makes it sound like the international day of the penis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jags4ever Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Gordon Smith is an odious c**t, just listend to the Rangers apologist speaking on SSN insisting that Zombie Rangers would make the first division an "exciting leaague". What a condecending cock swallower that man is. Moved on to interviewing random Zombie followers , complete neanderthals apart from one who talked about some integrity and beng put into div 1 as a "sham". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 We are all guessing at what the SKY position is. SKY have said nothing tangible. Why is Doncaster not making public the details of the contract with SKY. Why is Doncaster not making public the detail of the discussions with SKY? Why is the SPL chairman or members not applying pressure on Doncaster to do the above? And before anyone uses the term 'commercial confidentiality', that goes out the window if SKY are trying to screw us over; I was watching football long before we took Murdoch's shilling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Fine. "....and the old but beautiful SPL's colours are indeed fine." Duly corrected. At least the message was picked up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 We're talking about a once in 125 years situation here. Might as well budget based on David Icke being right about Arran being underwater. This is an extremely rare situation exacerbated by some very unfortunate global circumstances. I don't think clubs should budget based on the most valuable club in the country going tits up. Says it all about you. I was going to say "Motherwell supporter in 'Rangers is the most valuable club in the country' shock", but that would be an insult to the decent Motherwell fans who make up the majority of your club's support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Awwww, International day of Happiness on my birthday. I'm not worthy. <--- (just wanting an excuse to use this one) Edited June 29, 2012 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Why would any of those things happen? The SPL would still have 12 teams. Dundee/Dunfermline would replace "Club 12" in the fixture list. SFL1 would still have 10 teams. Sevco Rangers would replace Dundee/Dunfermline in the fixture list. Why would season ticket prices change? All clubs except Sevco Rangers and Dundee/Dunfermline would be playing the same number of games in the same division. The SPL and SFL would not be merging for another year. Clubs are going to have to alter financial plans regardless. Hmm I thought the plans were more extensive that just swapping teams... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I'm not blaming the SFA/SPL for the troubles of RFC. However, what I am suggesting is that both organisations may/could be held, legally, liable because of their negligence. I have no allegiance to the former RFC, or any other Scottish Club, I was only speculating upon the way that HMRC might view matters, in an attempt to maximise recovered revenues. No more, no less. But if the SFA knew what Rangers were up to with double contracts, long before Whyte was even heard of? Who should be interested? HMRC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) We are all guessing at what the SKY position is. SKY have said nothing tangible. Why is Doncaster not making public the details of the contract with SKY. Why is Doncaster not making public the detail of the discussions with SKY? Why is the SPL chairman or members not applying pressure on Doncaster to do the above? And before anyone uses the term 'commercial confidentiality', that goes out the window if SKY are trying to screw us over; I was watching football long before we took Murdoch's shilling. What is the capital of North Korea, Granny or Mr Green? No conferring with Bomber for the answer on this round. Edited June 29, 2012 by Claymores 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Gordon Smith is an odious c**t, just listend to the Rangers apologist speaking on SSN insisting that Zombie Rangers would make the first division an "exciting leaague". Fife derbies for Raith, Pars and Cowdenbeath, derbies between Pars and Falkirk, Livi play some excellent football, while Partick, Morton and Accies have decent teams. Throw in an away day to Dumbarton who are unknown and it would be a great league. We don't be Rangers in there, they won't add any excitement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laeotaekhun Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 OK. So where is the evidence that is wasnt monitored correctly? None of the governing bodies have any obligation to pour over the financial goings-on of any of its members. I think that you will find that your opinion is incorrect if you check the facts. It is a legal requirement that the member of any organisation meets the criteria stipulated by law. Ignorance of the law can never be used as a defence. Well, no not really. The footballing authorities can hardly punish individual fans, but they can punish the clubs. How its relevant to what you are trynig to claim I dont really know You gave a couple of (IMHO) ridiculous examples of what referees/police could/should not be held accountable for. I, merely, gave you a "real life" example of something for which clubs are held accountable. Clubs arent employees of the SFA, nor are the SFA in any way the equivalent of the CEO of a company. Amazingly false analogy. I never said that they were. However, if you had taken the time to digest what I wrote you would have discovered that they were/are in a position to block the appointment of any club Director/CEO and (if they did not) can/should be held accountable for subsequent wrongdoings, assuming always, that they should, reasonably, have known that any said Director/CEO should not have been appointed based upon his historical data. To allow an individual who had been disqualified, because of fraudulent acts, from being a director to become RFC CEO is negligence - nothing more, nothing less! How, for example, would you view a local authority who appointed a convicted paedophile as head of childrens services? My analogy stands! Err, they did reverse their position and have said he isnt a "fit and proper person". Its in the findings of the original disrepute panel, along with his fine and ban. After how long? Again, the rules, as they stand, are that anyone wishing to own a football club has to submit that they are a "fit and proper" person. Whyte didnt, he was punished. The SFA give no guarantee, nor are they under any obligation, to do further checks. Whether or not they should be is a whole other argument, but one thats irrelevant in this context. Theres no liability on the governing bodies, under the current rules. So, to ignore requests for information means that someone will pass? Imagine the reaction of the SFA/SPL if someone applying for employment (I know Whyte was not an SFA/SPL employee) submitted a blank CV. The incompetence beggars belief and incompetence = negligence! This line was peddled months ago, by Rangers fans, desperately looking for a way out. It was wrong then and its wrong now ... hence the smiley I'm not a supporter of RFC, or any other Scottish Club and I'm not trying to "pass the buck", merely speculating on the way that HMRC might view events, in an attempt to recover revenues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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