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On the subject of the NFL they have a very interesting TV concept called REDZONE. For those who don't know, they basically try and show all the games at the same time. How it works is they show action from one game, as soon as a teams scores or the posesion is lost, they switch to another game where a team looks like scoring, and then again and so forth. Its compelling TV.

How does this relate to Scottish Football? As far as I know no Football league has a package like this.

A few years back I was in Cologne and on the Saturday at 3 pm they started cycling through the games for 5 minutes or so. No guarantee of goals but you got a decent feel for each of the matches.

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Originally posted by James Traynor

For months now there has been a savagery. The game has been ripping itself apart all in the name of fair play. Or was it sporting integrity?

Forgive me, the reasons for the crisis that threatens to destroy Scottish football have been lost somewhere in the lust to tear and shred one club. It's as though a century of hatred and probably jealousy have erupted.

And the handful of reasoned souls left in the game are fighting a losing battle to cap the flow.

No, sorry Jim, forgive me.

Talk about trying to muddy the waters over what is, at its core a pretty simple issue. Don't go pretending that this suddenly isn't about fair play or sporting integrity, or even just a tiny wee shred of balance in a game which has been devoid of it for decades.

The reasons for the crisis haven't been remotely lost on most, although sadly they appear to have been lost on you in your hunt for a few more readers on your sinking ship.

For what it's worth, the reasons are as follows:

- Rangers used dodgy practices over many years to pay for players they couldn't afford otherwise, in the process gathering a whole host of league and cup wins

- Rangers manipulated and cajoled an open-arms willing press to turn a blind eye to their over-powerful influence on the game

- Rangers played fast and loose with other people's money, leaving a trail of creditors in their wake in their pursuit of superiority in Scottish football

The BBC investigation, the SFA, UEFA, the courts - at every turn there is on guilty party - Rangers and those associated with them.

And pretending to be in a handful of reasoned souls doesn't cut it any more Mr Traynor - everyone knows you were bought in the succulent lamb culture by Mr Murray and his cohorts, and given that your opinion seems to change with the weather most of us will have a little more respect for those who've proven they're capable of taking a more impartial look at events. The Scottish papers, least of all the Record, shouldn't be attempting to take any kind of moral high ground here, they should be hanging their heads in shame. They've been caught out and should be quietly licking their wounds and learning lessons, not stumbling down the same old tired road with worthless words from corrupted men who are long past their sell-by date.

And the one thing which Traynor and his ilk, along with all those angry Rangers fans, conveniently fail to ask when they talk about a witch hunt is this: just what is it about Rangers Football Club that has elicited such a response from so many people at so many football clubs all across Scotland?

Are we all wrong?

Sorry Jim, but just because you have to talk about an issue every day doesn't mean the reasons for it have become clouded, it simply means you've become jaded, lost your way, become too accustomed to the succulent lamb, become rattled by the plummeting readership figures which make you more and more of an obsolete irrelevance in Scottish sport.

Simple facts, just in case you're struggling for them:

- Rangers as we knew them are gone. A new company may well come along and call itself a version of Rangers. That's fine, I have no issue with that. But they ought to be given the same treatment as everyone else. If you didn't shed tears for Clydebank and Gretna forgive us for being a little suspicious of your hollow care for the game now.

Football will always be skewed by competing agendas, by the lust for money and reward, by small men feeling important in expensive blazers and padded seats, by hangers-on, wannabees and never weres.

But let's at least make some kind of attempt and making it a wee bit fair along the way.

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As I've just pointed out: BBC shows Scottish top division highlights, 4 League Cup ties, 8 Scottish Cup ties, 2 SFL play-off final ties, 1/2 Challenge Cup ties, 1 Junior Cup tie, Scotland away games and Scotland Womens games, and even 2 Womens CL games recently.

They show English top division highlights.

(And that's all now... no League Cup/Championship/etc. now, just MotD + final tournaments).

Are we really being short-changed there?!?!

These in bold were shown by BBC ALBA which appeals to only a minority who can understand gaelic

BBC Alba is only shown in scotland on virgin media and freeview, as for sky,I couldn't say but would think it was national on that mediumcool.gif

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alex thomson@alextomo#c4news tomorrow story on interests, conflicts, Campbell Ogilvie, Donald Findlay and Jim Ballantyne - Airdrie, Cowdenbeath, Hearts - and RFC

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Hearts and Ogilvie in the same sentence ? EBT's at Tynecastle ? Uh. oh..................

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That's not the point I'm makes.

Take the example of the BBC's national radio stations (Radio 1, 2, 5Live etc.), all are national and therefore rightly paid for by everyone but all the thousands of jobs that are supported by them are based around London. Same goes for the majority of national TV shows. Surely they could spread it about a bit so all areas of the country benefit from the BBCs policy of making British-funded shows in Britain because just now at disproportionate amount of them are made in England.

It's petty but at the end of the day it's all of us who are getting shafted by it.

Well that's not correct. A lot of programming was decentralised to Salford for a start, including BBC Breakfast and Radio 5 Live. The Weakest Link was filmed (at least some of the time) in Glasgow. Mrs Browns Boys, not a Scottish comedy per se, is filmed in Glasgow. The bulk of programmes produced in Scotland though are for Alba, Radio Scotland and regional tv variations.

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I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage.

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I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage.

yeah, would agree to that , it was fun trying to work out what the gael for corner kick or penalty is laugh.gif

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They had two games on over here live yesterday.

The evening game was Viking Stavanger v Rosenborg 1-4

The earlier game was Haugesund v Tromso 1-1 . That kicked off at the same time as all the other games. Tv2 covered the game while their version of soccer saturday covered the other games kicking off at the same time. For whatever reason Phil Thompson also works for norwegian tv (f**k knows why they would have him)

Despite Viking and Rosenborg being arguably the two biggest teams the stadium wasn't that busy, or at least didn't appear to be.

Checked the Viking website they give attendance as 10059 ground holds 16300,

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I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage.

Yes, there is something in that. For example, the Rai 2 coverage of the stunningly scenic Strade Bianche cycling race is on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFiPffEZsM

and while I don't speak Italian, the commentary is very listenable.

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Our shareholders meeting has not long finished - initial tweets and talk on B&W Army website are already pretty incendiary stuff. No doubt someone who was there will get home and post directly on here.

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Due to no wifi and piss poor data allowance, I've missed a weekends worth of this epic thread. Last visit - page 2326. Tonight - we're on page 2434!

I was around to read the ransom note penned by Doncaster, and have read the stupendous statement from Clyde - have I missed much else? What's with the talk of SPL tv? I gather that SFL clubs are meeting tomorrow, but not for a vote.

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I watched the play off final between dumbarton and airdrie, and the format they had was very well thought out indeed, im sure they had interviews with players/managers as the teams were coming off for half time, it was very refreshing to watch biggrin.gif

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