blanco Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If that's the case, it's hard to fault the Scottish football authorities. Of course, if that's the case the language of the clauses is crucial because if they were designed to capture the OF leaving voluntarily they might not capture this scenario perfectly. To speculate wildly, I wouldn't be shocked to find there was some savings clause language that made it clear the contract shouldn't be read as obligating the SPL to change their normal rules and which might be read creatively by either side. IMO Sky will honour the existing contract but will renegotiate the new, as yet unsigned contract. I would imagine that talk of slashing the contract in half is no more than scaremongering from those with vested interests but it will be renegotiated and we will take a hit but it won't be as bad as is being made out by the likes of Doncaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 The only path open to DIV1 was via the SPL and automatic relegation .. which may have been Doncaster's plan. There was (to my knowledge) never any route for applying directly to DIV1. That said I could be wrong ... Either way it was a very public announcement and to do nothing would be an admission of guilt ... Unless they don't watch STV ..... If they were going to relegate them they would need to have accepted them into the SPL first - which was never going to happen. And the SFL couldn't have stopped them getting into SPL1 in that case, so why bother to blackmail them into it. No, this was Cockwomble trying to strong-arm the SFL into breaking their own rules by promoting a new team 2 divisions before they had even played a game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidger Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 This is surely all just posturing now and over reaction from the media. These are options that have to be explored and offered regardless of what has been said and stated before. Its a process that has to be adhered to. When the final ruling comes about and sevco are punted down to the third there will be no recourse for the SPL SFL and SFA to answer. By going through all the options they are allowing every chance for the voting members to change their minds, nothing new has come to light and i very much doubt any chairmen have changed their views. With someone as sharp as Green in charge and his legal eagles they can not leave themselves open so everything has to be democratic, documented and fair to all parties including sponsors. The spotlight is on and they have to show that this is a purely open decision so that the likes of SKY see how much the deal means to Scottish football and very much they have been part of the deliberations. What happens in the next few days is unpredictable and is very hard to get the head around but it is a huge point in football history and i expect many twists and turns before the final outcome. It always had to get messy and there is no one to blame as such, we just have to hope things are learned for the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Then they'd not be in the Top 6. The way the league works is set out perfectly clearly in SPL rules. There won't be a contract that says Rangers / Celtic must be in the Top 6, must play 4 times, even must play in SPL: there may be (infact evidently is) a contract that says TV doesn't have to pay-up regardless for Xyrs if they aren't. Doncaster has been quoted as saying that the TV deals have always stipulated 4 OF games and that that clause has been locked in since the Setanta deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuddie994 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 That's a great find - his nose should be well and truly rubbed in that article ! Cheers mate, It just shows the hypocritical thinking behind this 'man'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm awaiting the inevitable thread on RangersMedia accusing the RAF pilots of being tarrier b*****ds who have gone to reasonably extreme measures to delay the Rangers situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazza1910 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Sorry, but if six SPL clubs (allegedly) face ruin, is that not an SPL matter? What's it got to do with the SFL? Who have been p***ed on ever since 1998 by the SPL? The SPL has to help them out. (I know Dundee have a foot in both camps, then and now, but still see SPL as 'them' and SFL as 'us') Edited July 3, 2012 by Chazza1910 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 IMO Sky will honour the existing contract but will renegotiate the new, as yet unsigned contract. I would imagine that talk of slashing the contract in half is no more than scaremongering from those with vested interests but it will be renegotiated and we will take a hit but it won't be as bad as is being made out by the likes of Doncaster. Unfortunately you are probably wrong. Sky work on viewer numbers and will walk away from Scottish Football using a legitimate break clause in the contract based on sound commercial reasoning. That's not scaremongering, that's harsh commercial reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam1314 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 What hospital do you work at 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Unfortunately you are probably wrong. Sky work on viewer numbers and will walk away from Scottish Football using a legitimate break clause in the contract based on sound commercial reasoning. That's not scaremongering, that's harsh commercial reality. Why, does nobody watch Celtic games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee4Life1893 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Gio Di Stefano :lol: What a Tit EDIT: Sorry realise that's days old. Was told it was new by Jambo supporter at work Edited July 3, 2012 by Dee4Life1893 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellboy1978 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 What hospital do you work at Don't tell him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Meeting at Hampden definately not going well! Wow, when Sky said that the First Division chairmen had reacted badly to Doncaster's speech, I didn't realise it was quite THAT bad. RIP Neil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboRobbo Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately you are probably wrong. Sky work on viewer numbers and will walk away from Scottish Football using a legitimate break clause in the contract based on sound commercial reasoning. That's not scaremongering, that's harsh commercial reality. And fill the gaps with what? Rugby? Conference? Scottish Football viewing figures on Sky are decent. They need to fill their sports channels, and scottish football, shite as it might be, gets decent viewing figures. Quite a bit of detail on Sky viewing figures for scottish football here. http://www.kilmarnockfc.co.uk/staticFiles/71/72/0,,10291~160369,00.pdf Edited July 3, 2012 by JamboRobbo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Unfortunately you are probably wrong. Sky work on viewer numbers and will walk away from Scottish Football using a legitimate break clause in the contract based on sound commercial reasoning. That's not scaremongering, that's harsh commercial reality. Garbage. What are they going to show instead, considering that they will lose everyone who subscribed specifically for the SPL? Sunday morning showjumping? Fucking hell, Sky renegotiated *upwards* in their last deal even though the competition is weaker and the old Firm are worse. That presumably means the league is still quite a draw. Lastly, and this really hasn't been emphasised enough: if Sky really didn't want Rangers to walk away, Murdock's outlets would have been all over this. They haven't. Nowhere near to the extent Glasgow's hacks have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coqofthenorth Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Doncaster has been quoted as saying that the TV deals have always stipulated 4 OF games and that that clause has been locked in since the Setanta deal. Accepting this as true, does that mean SPL Ltd will be in breach of contract with Sky for being unable to deliver this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Accepting this as true, does that mean SPL Ltd will be in breach of contract with Sky for being unable to deliver this? Huh ? How can the SPL be held accountable for a club going breasts up ? Is the CBI accountable to it's members shareholders if one of it's members goes to the wall ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliche Guevara Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 You hear nothing from the SFA for the benefit of the Scottish game for about 120 years, then when Rangers are in trouble it's a mad desperate scramble to revolutionise the game within a fortnight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Accepting this as true, does that mean SPL Ltd will be in breach of contract with Sky for being unable to deliver this? Not SPL's fault that Ra Peepul have gone bust, perhaps they could all sue the person truly responsible for the loss of Rangers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotWeissEssen Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 The winner of the league gets 17% .. what exactly was unfair about that , it was up for grabs by all and sundry ? Sorry you couldn't compete, you favour the sport where we all come first and there's no losers ... Maybe golfers should just all split the prize money. Darts players should all get the same .. just enter ... Get a grip ... You probably advocate that school children shouldn't learn to compete either ... You have more fans than us and that's not fair ... boo hoo ... That's what it boils down to in the end. P.S .. I have no problems with the sponsorship money being split more equally ... we'll still have the CL games and cash to look forward to .. I take it the club that finishes 2nd this year will be pooling the money with the other clubs and ensuring it is divided up equally given their strong moral stance on this matter ... and the fans will be demanding they do so? The money should be distributed more equally you agree so there should be no problem when Rangers leave ,this should happen ? I would also say that when a club is on TV the home club should get a small sum to allow for the fact that many fans will simply watch the game on TV. My point was that Celtic and there fans will moan once they split the TV more fairly(1st should get more than last just not to the extent) Since you seem to agree there is no problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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