Jagsman411971 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Thistle have not said no... we have said we do not accept the current offer being made... which is wholey different, and quite frankly sickening. 4 statements from our club, not once have we said no to newco. mark my words, beattie and co are hanging out for a better offer and he will welcome Rangers into the 1st with pants round his ankles... and i will walk away from Thistle. If you read the statement it says they are against Newco in the 1st division, but would be interested in an SFA led league structure, not any SPL or SPL2 or SPL led division, but a completely new league incorporating all clubs. Thats how I read it anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPar72 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 1758: BREAKING NEWSCeltic statement on today's developments coming up... should be good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I see it the same way you do - the trouble is that the SFA are withholding the registration of a player who wants to go to an English side. Sevco don't hold the registrations, the SFA do (and it looks like they want to keep them so that Sevco can have them). I'm assuming, of course, the player concerned took advantage of the TUPE regulations and did not transfer to Newco. Indeed there should be no need for the courts, and hopefully FIFA tell the SFA to allow the English registration. If they don't (or if they don't know about TUPE), then I can see the courts as the only option (and they'd surely favour the players/PFA/buying club). At present I'm seeing the situation as a player who has opted not to transfer to the Newco being told by the SFA that the only team he CAN sign for is Newco. That's why SFA are passing the buck to FIFA though. There would almost certainly be some form of legal action (either via law courts or CAS) if SFA withheld the registrations and said their decision was final, but by letting FIFA do it they can say "It wasn't our decision". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman411971 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Brown saying its definately 1st division, deal already done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So as I said from the start, Celtic would vote no to the NewCo They confirmed my prediction. Hopefully now that will be the end of the conspiracy theory about us trying to get them back into the SPL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-18706453 What a waste the Scottish Government did not do this months ago. We have had the shame of a major Scottish business and institutions dragged though the mire. If we can't run businesses or national organisations, how can anyone be convinced we could run a country? A missed opportunity Alex, one that will bite your bum over the next couple of years right up to referendum time. But as there is still plenty to come out, maybe not too late to move in. Or do you want Westminister to have their enquiry and then take the moral high ground? Westminster can f**k off. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1973 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 That's why SFA are passing the buck to FIFA though. There would almost certainly be some form of legal action (either via law courts or CAS) if SFA withheld the registrations and said their decision was final, but by letting FIFA do it they can say "It wasn't our decision". Statement from Celtic Football Club By: Newsroom Staff on 04 Jul, 2012 17:57 CELTIC Football Club today confirmed that it opposed re-admission to the Scottish Premier League by Rangers newco. Today´s decision to refuse access into the SPL was an overwhelming one and demonstrates the depth of feeling amongst everyone involved in Scottish football. Fundamentally, the Celtic Board has also been very mindful of the need to take what it believes to be the correct course of action in protecting the integrity of the game in Scotland The matter is now within the jurisdiction of the Scottish Football Association and it will be for the SFA to decide on the future of Rangers newco. Throughout the whole sequence of events leading up to today’s decision the Celtic Board has been of the singular view that the integrity of the game in Scotland is of paramount importance. Our only other consideration has been to protect the interests and right of the Club and our supporters. Whilst the financial implications of today’s vote for Celtic and for the Scottish game as a whole will be very significant, we have already stated that Celtic has a business plan and strategy independent of any other club. Our supporters can rest assured that we will continue to fight to protect Celtic’s best interests within the Scottish game. In addition, we will be working with our other fellow SPL clubs in the days and weeks ahead to take all possible steps to maximise commercial returns, which remain crucial in these economically-challenging circumstances. We will also play an active role in mapping the future of Scottish football. The fans are the lifeblood of the game and we know how strongly our supporters, and those of other clubs, felt about this issue. We are confident that Celtic’s fans, together with the supporters of all the SPL clubs, will now play a major role in rallying behind their clubs to ensure that Scottish football emerges stronger from this episode. During Celtic’s long and illustrious 125-year history, there have been periods of difficulty. At these times, our supporters have always stood shoulder to shoulder with the Club. We need our supporters to be with us now, more than ever. We know our own supporters will be acutely aware of the significant challenges that lie ahead. We enter next season as Champions of Scotland and look ahead to retaining our title and to making an impact in a European context. We know how difficult this will be and we call on our supporters to join us in tackling these challenges, to take their place at Celtic Park, to invest in the Club and to continue to give us the kind of support for which they are renowned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy B Ton Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Struggling to get excited about today happenings. Rangers getting into the 1st division is a real possibility and I'm fully expecting the next week being unbearable (pun not intended). The only thing acceptable in this farce is if Rangers are offered the option of apply for the 3rd divison or if the SFA just tell them to get tae. Anything less will destroy Scottish Football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The queen was in Glasgow today? First I've heard of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 1758: BREAKING NEWSCeltic statement on today's developments coming up... should be good Up on the offcial site 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman411971 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Radio Clyde is just going to be a Rangers love in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffcsam Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 This image just appeared on my fb page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Brown saying its definately 1st division, deal already done Who is Brown? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sportsound is indeed on Sky channel 0116. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/17325775 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman411971 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Who is Brown? John Brown, the babbling idiot, says that he saw minutes from SFL meeting yesterday and they state that Newco will be allowed into 1st division. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If you read the statement it says they are against Newco in the 1st division, but would be interested in an SFA led league structure, not any SPL or SPL2 or SPL led division, but a completely new league incorporating all clubs. Thats how I read it anyway. The club know that the fans will stop their support if they do this and therefore I reckon they will vote No to the proposals. IMO that they're being careful in what they say in order to hedge their bets so Thistle are invited to a possible SPL2. I would prefer that he'd come out and say No, but as long as he votes No then that's all that matters. If they vote Yes then even if Rangers go down to the 3rd then they should be hung out to dry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jags4ever Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 VirginMedia channel 930 for those who have cable and wanna listen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Falkirk still hoping to turn this to their own skint advantage - The Board of Falkirk FC met today to consider our position following the meeting of the SFL clubs in Glasgow on Tuesday. The Club’s position remains as stated in our press release on Friday 22nd June which stated: “The board at Falkirk FC strongly believe the current turmoil should be a catalyst for change in Scottish Football. League reconstruction, First Division play-offs, a fairer distribution of the game’s wealth and the ending of undemocratic voting systems should be the minimum level of change.” We believe the current proposal put to the SFL clubs is limited, and has failed to address the major concerns of many SFL member clubs and their supporters. The Board believe that finding the best long term solution for Scottish Football is more important than finding a short solution to our current problems. It is clear the length and breadth of the country that supporters want to see league reconstruction, play offs, and fairer allocations of the game’s wealth. The board at Falkirk call on the football authorities to come up with a commitment that would lead to a 16 club top division. We are asking the SFL board to discuss this at their board meeting tomorrow (Thursday 5th) and to take this matter up with the SFA and SPL with a view to coming up with some immediate proposals that can be tabled at next week’s SFL general meeting. We believe that introducing Rangers to the First Division as proposed throws away the chance of introducing real change to our game and, in the short term, simply reduces existing First Division clubs chances of securing an automatic promotion place. We cannot therefore support the current proposal put forward by the SFL. Falkirk Football Club want to play an active part in bringing about the changes that fans want in Scottish football, and call on like-minded clubs to support this initiative. Martin Ritchie Chairman Falkirk FC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 In addition, we will be working with our other fellow SPL clubs in the days and weeks ahead to take all possible steps to maximise commercial returns, which remain crucial in these economically-challenging circumstances. We will also play an active role in mapping the future of Scottish football. The fans are the lifeblood of the game and we know how strongly our supporters, and those of other clubs, felt about this issue. Let hope that's in a good way, I'd love us to lead the way for the benefit of all in the SPL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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