somner`s love child Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Findlay is a no? That isn't sitting right at all with me at all You don`t think the Sevco mentality of "let`s see how they get on without us........they`ll go to the wall without our money" sit`s well with this nutjob? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 GTF - Why don't youz and yer yer bigoted pals form a breakaway league of 2 and go play each other on Mars or somewhere every week for forever - tosser Nowt against Div 2 clubs, more like its the one place they don't want to go. Presumably 'cos Div 1 = straight back to SPL in 1 season (in their eyes). Div 3 = rebuild brand/team/fan base against weakest possible opposition. Div 2 = harder than Div 3 and no quick rotue back, not the pheonix rebirth they want.......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter mason Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 ok we will see what happens with dundee utd watch the newspapers and you will see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadénator Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) Here's the full article, think only the preview has been posted in this thread. As mentioned it has since been taken off the Scotsman website and it'll be interesting to see if it appears in print tomorrow. Regan simply has to go. By STEPHEN HALLIDAY Published on Wednesday 4 July 2012 21:26 SCOTTISH Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan has issued a startling warning of "social unrest" in Scotland if newco Rangers are denied entry to the First Division of the Scottish Football League following the emphatic rejection today of their application to retain top-flight football at Ibrox. Regan's remarkable comment came as he insisted admission to the First Division is now the only viable option if Scottish football wishes to avoid what he described as a "slow, lingering death". The Scottish Premier League turned down Charles Green's bid to have Rangers' existing share in the organisation transferred to his newco for next season, with ten of the member clubs voting against the application. It is understood Green cast the only vote in favour, while Kilmarnock chairman Michael Johnston is believed to have abstained. The SPL will now await the outcome of an SFL meeting next week when that organisation's 30 clubs will vote on a proposal to accept newco Rangers into the First Division in the new season ahead of an amalgamation of the league governing bodies from 2013-14. There is considerable opposition and resistance to the plan among SFL clubs and their supporters with many believing Rangers should have to apply for entry to the Third Division in the wake of their spectacular financial collapse. But Regan bluntly asserted that Scottish football simply cannot afford to have Rangers outwith the top two tiers of the league structure, with his argument not confined to the commercial impact their absence would have. "Without Rangers, there is social unrest and a big problem for Scottish society," claimed Regan. "They have a huge fan base and to contemplate the situation where those fans don't have a team to support, where those fans are effectively left without a game to follow, I just think that could lead to all sorts of issues, all sorts of problems for the game. "Tribalism in football is really important. It is part of the game. People follow their clubs with pride, it is passed down from generation to generation. There are thousands of Rangers fans whose fathers and parents and grandfathers have been Rangers fans. You can't contemplate a situation without that and if Rangers weren't to exist that could have real dire consequences. "There is a lot of emotion around this subject because Rangers are a huge institution in Scottish football history and they are where they are. Their fans have been hurt, they don't know what's happening. There hasn't been a great deal of leadership at the club and there hasn't been a huge amount of communication from the football authorities. "The SPL have now decided that Rangers won't be coming back into the SPL. From our perspective it's important we set out the landscape because there is only one solution for the game now. "The only solution for the game now is that Rangers come into the Scottish Football League and they come into it in the First Division. If Rangers were to go anywhere other than the First Division, then there would something in the region of £15.7 million worth of losses to the game. "For the bigger clubs at the top of the league, that's half their annual distributions. For clubs at the bottom it is basically wiping out their entire distributions, for some of the smaller clubs it's a huge proportion of their annual turnover. "The same will be true for most clubs. Perhaps clubs could survive for a short period of time but it's not sustainable. Even if Rangers end up in the First Division, there is still going to be a £5 million loss of income to the SPL clubs. The game is not sustainable so there would be a slow lingering death for the game in Scotland. It would then trickle down to the SFL. From our perspective as the governing body and we cannot allow that to happen. "If we allowed that to happen, it would simply be a dereliction of duty. Therefore, this whole decision-making process has been one of the most challenging and complex decisions that I have ever been involved in in 27 years of business as sport. "Some clubs in the SFL are afraid of the implications of the decisions. There is the moral argument, the fear of a fans' backlash and there are financial implications to consider. But when we look at the alternative, it is not possible to think about it without thinking of the game withering on the vine. We cannot contemplate that and the message has to be that Division One for Rangers is the only show in town as far as the future of Scottish football is concerned." Regan admits the influence of television contracts, which are largely predicated on the presence of Celtic and Rangers in the Scottish game, are the biggest single factor in his determination to ensure the Ibrox club drop no lower than the First Division. "We have had dialogue with the broadcasters," he added, "and we understand what the various stakeholders from Sky television, ESPN, Sport Five and a number of the SPL's other commercial partners are likely to do in the event Rangers are not in either of the top two tiers. It's not pretty. That's why we cannot sit back and let that happen without trying to get all parties to accept this is the only solution which can keep the game afloat. "Without Old Firm games, the value drops, the overseas deals are almost exclusively about the Old Firm derby and that would go immediately. Then you look at the rest of the game and what it is worth. It is fair to say the broadcasters would live with a year without Rangers in the SPL, because it could be a fantastic story for them, which is why I think First Division rights will be an interest as people will want to see how this club is going to bounce back." Regan conceded, however, that there can be no guarantee a financially weakened Rangers will climb back to the top flight at the first attempt. "If Rangers don't get promoted, then the game has got another year to suffer with the financial consequences that brings," he said. "I can't predict what will happen, because Rangers at the moment are a weakened team because of everything that has gone on. "They are a newco at the moment, they have got very few players on their books. They are going to be entering the SFL in whatever division with a weakened team and I don't think it's by any means certain they are going to come back in the way they or their fans might like them to recover. "It's going to be a slow recovery to get back to the football fitness they have shown in the past. So we can't look into the future and say 'what if they don't operate in a certain way?'. We can only look at building the foundations, to change the game for the better and provide an infrastructure that can bring financial certainty to the other 41 clubs." Regan confirmed that sanctions will apply to newco Rangers in the First Division and also made it clear the formation of an SPL2 will be pursued in order to accommodate the Ibrox club if they are rejected by the SFL next week. "The SFA have to transfer Rangers' membership from oldco to newco," he said. "That can be done with any conditions attached to it that the SFA board deem fit. We would expect a newco to carry some of the sanctions which would have related to the club had it still been in the previous incarnation. The membership cannot be transferred on financial grounds alone. It has to have a degree of sporting integrity and that means sporting sanctions." Edited July 4, 2012 by Tadénator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I think we can forget about Doncaster now, it's not a question of if he'll go but rather when he'll go. We need to turn our attention to Regan. It doesn't seem many people are picking up on Div's post from earlier but any proposal like this needs to be met with overwhelming resistance. The fans of Scottish football have shaped events so far, we must make sure Regan and co. are not allowed to reset the agenda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 ok we will see what happens with dundee utd watch the newspapers and you will see Would these be the same papers who confidently declared that Sevco would get in to the SPL again no bother? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 i no staff that work for dundee utd and they were briefed yesterday that dundee utd will not make it to the end of the season and were told to start looking for new jobs as there will be redundancys as they new rangers would be relegated and united need the sky tv money to survive just to xmas plus sky are cutting the money so unless they get a new owner they will go into administration by xmas So...you're a Clydebank supporter. Your surname is Mason. You don't know how to spell 'know' or punctuate a sentence. Either you're an FF/Sevco Media plant or .... Hiya Jim *waves* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiled jambo Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 These "hotshot CEOs" have little grasp on their jobs anymore. If they're not ready to walk, they should expect to pushed soon enough. Doncaster won't last till Christmas, and Regan won't be far behind. If the leagues do merge, then Longmuir will be out the door with the old. f**k christmas. If the SFL vote no they have to step down immediately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Its funny because Jim was implying Celtic had plants on forums swaying our opinions! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 ok we will see what happens with dundee utd watch the newspapers and you will see I missed the start of this conversation, what's going on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xj2011 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 i no staff that work for dundee utd and they were briefed yesterday that dundee utd will not make it to the end of the season and were told to start looking for new jobs as there will be redundancys as they new rangers would be relegated and united need the sky tv money to survive just to xmas plus sky are cutting the money so unless they get a new owner they will go into administration by xmas well if their entire existence depending on the existence of rangers then they don't deserve to survive but anyway, your post has as much credibility as a daily record/sun article 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It has to have a degree of sporting integrity Don't try my patience cuntchops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim fatboy baldy traynor Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Jim? Jim Traynor? Is that you? Why, no, no its not. F.uck Cosgrove. Specky C.unt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 i no staff that work for dundee utd and they were briefed yesterday that dundee utd will not make it to the end of the season and were told to start looking for new jobs as there will be redundancys as they new rangers would be relegated and united need the sky tv money to survive just to xmas plus sky are cutting the money so unless they get a new owner they will go into administration by xmas Bomber...............is that you Bomber 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Its funny because Jim was implying Celtic had plants on forums swaying our opinions! Yeah, I'm Neil Lennon. Should have mentioned it, sorry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 a message to peter mason go and rattle yer baws in a tin ya daft barsteward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Utter shite. Someone could put in a £1M offer for Mackay-Stevens etc in the meantime. They could also make E/L group stages etc. That is why this financial meltdown talk is complete conjecture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 i no staff that work for dundee utd and they were briefed yesterday that dundee utd will not make it to the end of the season and were told to start looking for new jobs as there will be redundancys as they new rangers would be relegated and united need the sky tv money to survive just to xmas plus sky are cutting the money so unless they get a new owner they will go into administration by xmas Anybody else find that tough to read 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 i no staff that work for dundee utd and they were briefed yesterday that dundee utd will not make it to the end of the season and were told to start looking for new jobs as there will be redundancys as they new rangers would be relegated and united need the sky tv money to survive just to xmas plus sky are cutting the money so unless they get a new owner they will go into administration by xmas Sounds credible to me, and the lack of punctuation seals it. If only he'd put FACT at the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Not sure if this has been picked up on, I've been out this evening but Doncaster's changed his tune a bit? "But, when asked if he thought clubs would now face insolvency, Doncaster replied: "I wouldn't have thought so."" http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18714518 What about financial Armageddon Neil? Doncaster reminds me of this guy: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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