blanco Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Genuine question, as one of the other cheek, and a relatively sensible poster, would you like to see Rangers in the SPL next year? You may well have given your opinion already, so it could be somewhere back in the thread and I missed it, but Im interested! It seems to have split Celtic fans. No thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 THE SKY DEAL There is no way in hell that SKY will pull out the SPL completely like some have suggested.They may reduce the revenue stream by up to 40% perhaps but won't pull the plug completely. If they did SKY know that many many households in Bonnie Scotland would just cancel their current sky sports deals and some may even cancel SKY all together and that is worth more than the puny little amount pot of pish they pay to televise our SPL. They pull £110 million over 5 years then Scotland will make them lose that amount every year. IT'S CALLED CONSUMER POWER. So all this reek of pish SKY will pull out has to go ! they will renegotiate the deal and I hope the SPL will stick to their guns to keep the current deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 70 PAGES TILL NEXT LANDMARK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Rangers had 2 sanctions (in bold) 10 point penalty - am SPL rule 1 year europe ban for entering administration - a UEFA rule 2 fines totaling £160k for bringing the game into disrepute to be paid within 12 months 12 month transfer embargo overturned THE Rangers have 1 sanction (in bold) scottish cup ban/registration suspension/registration termination(delete as appropriate) no league to compete in ATM due to creating a new company - not a rule a consequence 3 year europe ban for being a new team - UEFA rule possible 2nd sanction unknown for use of EBT's i think thats it ? Edited June 14, 2012 by itzdrk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rankine Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 If you had £800 million would you want to hand it over to Cameron and his cronies? Call me old fashioned, but if Jim McColl has made his fortune owning and managing UK businesses, and was happy to accept an award from the Queen's honours list, then yes...he should be prepared to pay the full tax on his earnings. If your team had tried that approach they may still exist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 More tax avoidance? Tut tut. Perhaps, but no one can criticise McColl in that respect because of all the good work he's done in the engineering industry. Just hope Rangers benefit from his business expertise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Genuine question, as one of the other cheek, and a relatively sensible poster, would you like to see Rangers in the SPL next year? You may well have given your opinion already, so it could be somewhere back in the thread and I missed it, but Im interested! It seems to have split Celtic fans. Don't think it's split Celtic fans at all, empirical evidence suggests various reason Celtic fans almost to a man don't want Rangers in the SPL. My opinion is that the level of cheating can only merit Rangers being kicked out of Scottish football all together. I'd have to say, as someone who's been around a bit, Rangers money men fans have played a blinderr so far...be interesting to see if our authorities have the balls to do the right thing. Have to say also it's been a pleasure watching the new media try and run the agenda on this, from this site to the excellent Rangers tax case site I've been quite amazed at how ordinary fans can push the decision makers that used to meet in smoke filled room and sort things out. Only real negative is the complete absenceof any investigative push from our MSM, that's been a real disappointmet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtieforlife2 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Keep a low profile and learn a lesson eh? Ill still get banned 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapdarloch Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Here's a thing. I'm heartily fed up of the financial argument being used to keep the cheats in the SPL. Time after time, apologists (ha!) trot out the line about Scottish Football failing without their money. The absolute worst case-scenario (for the H'newco anyway) I can imagine the beaks having the balls for will be an SFL3 entry. In that case the same money will stay withing football, but some will be distributed among the clubs who probably need it the most, and will allow a more competitive game overall. After all, the fans don't do walking away. Of course I'd have them taken outside and shot in front of their families, but then again I am Jeremy Clarkson. And on that bombshell... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd23 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 If you had £800 million would you want to hand it over to Cameron and his cronies? I was under the impression that a large amount of the money was made from the sale of a Scottish company, so the moral argument might be to pay tax where you made that money. Your statement sums up the attitude to paying tax that had become associated with Rangers. Nobody wants to pay tax, but wtf happens if nobody pays it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Call me old fashioned, but if Jim McColl has made his fortune owning and managing UK businesses, and was happy to accept an award from the Queen's honours list, then yes...he should be prepared to pay the full tax on his earnings. If your team had tried that approach they may still exist. Why? He has the right to live wherever he chooses,it still doesn't dilute the good work he's done for industry in this country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 This Rangers blogger guy says they've had enough sanctions. What sanctions have they had exactly ? The 10 points deducted for going into administration: It had no negative effect on rangers. The 3 years without European football: That wasn't a sanction. They never met the criteria to be included. The 12 month transfer embargo: Has been overturned. What sanctions is he referring to ? Why do they invite people like this onto these programmes when it is obvious that they have nothing to offer ? Michael Kelly ? Gimme a break. Who cares what that loser thinks ? If Tom English could have manged to get a word in I suspect he may have been worth listening to. As for Archie...........he should stick to " Whoooooooooof " He is another one who can think only about money.....the product....exposure on TV....selling merchandise.....shirt sponsorship. He agrees that Rangers deserve to go to the third division but unfortunately it's not in the interests of scottish football. A number of people have been warning us to be careful what we wish for...............the people who are espousing the view that Rangers should be allowed back in the SPL really should be careful what they wish for. It won't be as rosy as they may think. The other guy (Penfold - writer guy) backed him up only Tom English actually said. Now Michael Kelly talking utter bollox, who cares about what has been won in the past it is about the decisions taken now. Yet again that balloon Rangers blogger flogging the dead horse that they have suffered enough , (you just shake your head at these people) Kelly and the guy who doesn't have anything to blog about wanting to keep the OF games along with wooooff !! Archie , typical OF wankfest we have grown used to . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtieforlife2 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Did RangersMedia bam you for the VL thread? Afraid so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Ill still get banned Yer own fault! You kept away for a while, now just try and keep your conduct whiter than white and learn from your mistakes. If you do that, you should get back in eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I love that the main talking points following both programmes include "I thought Tom English would look different" and "Jim Spence was wearing a snappy suit" For me it was that a broadcaster with 40 years experience doesn't know how to pronounce the word "product". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1973 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Don't think it's split Celtic fans at all, empirical evidence suggests various reason Celtic fans almost to a man don't want Rangers in the SPL. My opinion is that the level of cheating can only merit Rangers being kicked out of Scottish football all together. I'd have to say, as someone who's been around a bit, Rangers money men fans have played a blinderr so far...be interesting to see if our authorities have the balls to do the right thing. Have to say also it's been a pleasure watching the new media try and run the agenda on this, from this site to the excellent Rangers tax case site I've been quite amazed at how ordinary fans can push the decision makers that used to meet in smoke filled room and sort things out. Only real negative is the complete absenceof any investigative push from our MSM, that's been a real disappointmet If the SPL do not kick out rangers, and FIFA ban scotland and our teams from europe and world cup qualifiers what would happen then ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 STV pish except Tom English BBC was pretty decent and Spence was indeed the voice of the fans. Take a bow, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtieforlife2 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yer own fault! You kept away for a while, now just try and keep your conduct whiter than white and learn from your mistakes. If you do that, you should get back in eventually. I've not been away 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 HEY WAIT A FECKING MINUTE HERE ! Even after the b*stards die they will still effectively be costing a lot of tax payers money to investigate why the cheating feckers went bust how many more millions can they cost the tax payer even in death. UNBELIEVABLE OR WHAT 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 the Ibrox faithful were chanting for ally to be sacked I was at most games last season and don't remember that...When did the anti ally chanting start? Or did you just make that up to try and fit in here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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