AberdeenBud Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Or even HBQC - surely it's time he/she/it joined in? Has one of those sad b*****ds created a HBQC account? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Has one of those sad b*****ds created a HBQC account? Have I missed a new alias? Page 1870 back in the thread created a few weeks ago and went into my past posting history and red dotted me ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Has one of those sad b*****ds created a HBQC account? Aye, doesn't make posts, just issues rep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Aye, doesn't make posts, just issues rep. Got to be Vicky. I hope he remembered to reset the router this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yip, they truly deserve the permarage tag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Naw you don't you ! you just don't OK. This thread got derailed when the Polterfud joined P&B and posted more links than the whole of Tesco's butcher retail outlets sold after the cloning process was complete. Hellish - the thread slid into the shite on page one. If it means something more to you then wire right in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo9uk Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Away wi ye and go and boil yer head and bang your nuts aff the table you numpty . What is really tragic is that you'll support 400 truly obsessed XXXXL wearing fannies complaining to the BEEB about the truth but you then go the extra mile by rubbishing a campaign to have the truth outed as an obsession. What I find truly tragic is your username "Magoo" whom is taken from an idiotic haphazard cartoon character and then try to appear to be a smart bear on P&B . I do not support the 400 either,I think they should grow a pair and avoid giving creeps like Jum the publicity he obviously craves.In fact,it is my opinion that the cranks,pedants and weirdos should keep their "aye it is" "naw it isny" debates among themselves and stop pestering public bodies..... Edited September 17, 2013 by Magoo9uk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehoss Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 On a serious note, why do the rangers fans come on here to argue about something they are not going to win(whether that be because the argument is poor,or voice is truly outnumbered) and to argue about something they don't care about? The argument seems to be oldco/newco but does that really make a difference when the club is being run into the ground again? Some poster spoke earlier about this thread going off the rails from day one. Well this thread is now on page 6000 odd and still they come back to a thread that they seem pointless because they cannot have a rational disagreement. I just don't get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 "chasing the dragon" thread on Ragers Media were the OP sites his detective skills but can't detect he has been duped by the SFA by cloning his old club that died .And is there no end to their obsession about their dead clubs predicament by pestering the HMRC about the Rangers tax case leaks which will only end up in tears. I wonder if the poor cunt actually knows where North is ( I'm sorely tempted to send Mr Gauke my curriculum vitae and direct him to the part under training which states "Advanced Detective Training Scottish Police College" http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=258812 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehoss Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 "chasing the dragon" thread on Ragers Media were the OP sites his detective skills but can't detect he has been duped by the SFA by cloning his old club that died .And is there no end to their obsession about their dead clubs predicament by pestering the HMRC about the Rangers tax case leaks which will only end up in tears. I wonder if the poor cunt actually knows where North is http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=258812 I must admit this paragraph made me laugh. They are only subject to such criminal investigation because Sir David Murray and myself lodged criminal complaints in respect of these leaks post Tax Tribunal Verdict. The real question is why didn't HMRC initiate such a complaint sooner ? David Murray lodging a criminal complaint about the leaks of tax tribunal case yet he drove the club into the absolute ground and sold his club to whyte who in turn did further damage. Surely Murray is the biggest crook is the whole rangers saga, yes everyone blames whyte but the club was a mess before he stopped paying for things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo9uk Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Not sure he's actually seething - that one is extremely limited in his vocabulary, as well as being a bit of a Jardine.In all honesty I'd much rather be a Jardine with 38 Scotland caps and a ECWC medal than an embittered middle aged Internet troll who spends his life peppering a football forum with his anonymous spittle flecked rants...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Better call Saul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yip, they truly deserve the permarage tag ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1379372039.794574.jpg "3. Do they think they are above the law?" What a fuckin' cretin. If true, agree that football tops are not the desired wear for out dining. But, get a f*cking grip man! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The darkest dirtiest secret in Scottish Football has now been revealed and it will shake the Beautiful Game to its core as well as the Scottish legal system. Boiled down and stripped of legalese the shameful guarantee states: ‘The SPL hereby undertakes solely and exclusively to Sevco and to no other Person . . . that the SPL shall not . . . take or commence disciplinary proceedings against Sevco . . . in respect of any EBT Payments and Arrangements’. What is even more incredible is that this deal was struck and distributed with the 5-Way Agreement before Lord Nimmo Smith began his enquiry and before the FTTT announced its verdict on the Rangers tax allegations. We need clear unequivocal statements by Lord Nimmo Smith and Neil Doncaster and someone, anyone at the SFA who isn’t ‘conflicted’ to reveal the long hidden truth behind the most serious revelation ever to shine daylight on the many dark secrets held in the Hampden bunker. Many of us have incessantly debated the controversial findings of Lord Nimmo Smith’s Inquiry into Rangers’ EBTs since its release in February this year. There was widespread disbelief at the conclusions and many believed it was just another example of how the scales were weighted in favour of Rangers. Anyone who has followed my posts will know that I have always supported the integrity of LNS and his two learned colleagues in the sense that the woeful preparation and presentation of the SPL case gave the Tribunal little or no room for manoeuvre in reaching its conclusions. And of course there was the ludicrous intervention of the SFA’s top man in Player Registration which made the name ‘Bryson’ synonymous with ‘clown’ among Scottish Football fans. On top of that LNS breathed life into the ‘continuing club’ controversy which has fuelled incessant and often bitter internet debate and indeed sparked the recent vicious attacks on Jim Spence and his family and BBC Scotland – once again – by Rangers fans many of whom openly boast they refuse to buy a TV Licence to support an enemy of Rangers. For months now we have witnessed an outpouring of information from Charlotte Fakes who has risen above early suspicion that her works were indeed clever fakes to the point that no one disputes their authenticity and, indeed, she has allegedly been reported to the Information Commissioner which is probably the best possible guarantee of the authenticity of the documentation she has provided even though her motives are still unclear. She recently released what appears to be the final draft of the 5-Way Agreement between Oldco Rangers, Newco Rangers, the SFA, SPL and SFL which had important snippets not present in previous versions including a promise by Rangers and a prominent external newco shareholder not to take legal action the SFA, SPL and SFL and their officers and officials. This was first alluded to in the Rangers AIM Prospectus in December last year but the reasons for the Rangers undertaking have never been clear although the documentation seemed to suggest that Rangers had been wronged in some way and was holding back on justifiable legal action possibly because it felt blackmailed by the threat of total expulsion from Scottish Football if it didn’t agree to the sanctions of the 5-Way Agreement which had originally mooted title-stripping. One thing that puzzled me when the 5-Way Agreement was revealed was why there had ever been any need by the Scottish Football Authorities to keep it so tightly under wraps. Everything was basically in the open by then in terms of sanctions although there was the curious matter of the no legal action clause. But yesterday Charlotte Fakes released a brutal hammer blow which will destroy all remnants of tattered credibility in the Hampden suits and, more importantly, cast serious doubt on the integrity of the Scottish legal system which must be urgently dealt with. So what has Charlotte gone and done? Only release to the world details of the secret and tawdry side deal proposed by the SPL and agreed to by the SFA and SFL to grant immunity to Rangers newco (TRFCL) from any disciplinary action arising out of the use of Rangers EBTs and the failure to annually register the payments involved with the SFA. This guarantee was made months before the Lord Nimmo Smith Inquiry sat for the first time and even before its Notice of Commission was prepared and it was given even before the FTTT largely ruled in Rangers’ favour over its use of the EBTs. At this stage we don’t know if Lord Nimmo Smith and his two colleagues were aware of this incredible secret stitch-up between the signatories of the 5-Way Agreement before they heard any evidence or whether they too were kept in the dark by the Scottish Footballing Authorities who have honed their skills as mushroom farmers for decades by feeding BS to Scottish football fans. What we not only need but deserve is a clear statement by Lord Nimmo Smith on behalf of his tribunal and its decision as to whether he knew before any evidence was given that a secret guarantee of immunity had been given to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. If he did know can he explain why he was prepared to proceed on that basis and help create some of the aggro which is tearing apart the fabric of Scottish Football and poisoning Society with strange and alien concepts of a never-ending always continuing football club which defies liquidation of its legal operating entity and repeatedly and eternally rises intact from the ashes as a company with a brand new legal entity but which isn’t a Phoenix company. As to the SFA and SPL/SFL now in the persona of the shiny, brand-new SPFL – unless it too takes no responsibility for the deeds of its deid ancestors – what we need is a straight answer to whether the Charlotte Fakes documentation is bona fide and whether it was signed by Neil Doncaster whose name is on the draft and distributed to the SFA and SFL as stated along with the 5-Way Agreement. And as for the SMSM isn’t it time you actually grew a pair and dealt with the serious allegations raised by the release of the Charlotte Fakes material. Does the public interest count for nothing in Scotland? If you or your editors are frightened of the ‘dirty little secrets’ an aging and failing PR man in crisis has on you then now is the time to be Spartacus and if you can’t manage that at least do a Jim Spence. You don’t need to use the documents if you are scared – all you need to do is ask the questions. If you are told ‘No Comment’ then publish and be Spartacus and let the public know the truth and make their own judgement on the way Scotland and Scottish Football is run. If you continue to hide behind weak excuses think about moving to PR as that would seem to be your true home and there will be no crisis of conscience as none exists there as far as representing commercial non-ethical clients. However be assured that if you cower in a dark corner, close your eyes and dream of being a Twitter Warrior then your readers will continue to judge your inability to tell the truth and turn, in ever increasing numbers, to the internet for their news albeit with many imperfections but at least with lots of people trying to prevent the truth being choked by a surfeit of succulent lamb. And Lord Nimmo Smith as probably your staunchest supporter since your tribunal decision was issued I think I am entitled to ask another question on behalf of the much-respected poster Auldheid who truly has the wisdom of age – as reflected in his moniker – and the energy and perseverance of a young bull elephant when it came to uncovering and revealing the implications of Rangers DOS and the reluctance of all concerned including SMSM to mention it. I had always thought that this cloak of secrecy was to hide the implications of the Wee Tax Case which should have prevented European entry for Rangers, without the sleight of hand of the Hampden suits. But now I wonder if there was a much darker motive in play as part of the secret immunity for TRFCL. Quite simply LNS! Were you ever told or given evidence concerning the details of the Rangers Discounted Options Scheme as distinct from their EBT scheme and were you aware of the un-appealed FTTT Decision in the Aberdeen Asset Management (AAM) case concerning DOS schemes which ruled them as illegal under tax laws? In your tribunal decision you refer to treating the EBT scheme as a continuation of the DOS scheme – cloaked under a suitably confusing name – but did you know that one very senior witness to your enquiry was well aware of the differences and I would find it incredulous that they were unaware of the implications of the AAM FTTT Decision on the Rangers DOS. And if you weren’t apprised of the differences then it’s over to Neil Doncaster to explain whether this was another dirty secret and if not how did the SPL fail to discover and present absolutely critical evidence re the Rangers DOS which IMO could well have led Lord Nimmo Smith to stripping titles. Posted by Ecojon UNDERNOTE The document released by CH detailing the squalid immunity deal for TRFCL can be found at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/168302228/SPL-Undertaking-Letter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yip, they truly deserve the permarage tag ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1379372039.794574.jpg That's not real surely ? Above the law ? Provocation ? I wanted to shout abuse ? Offended ? Seriously ? WTF is that ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopy1967 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Yip, they truly deserve the permarage tag http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/public/style_images/teamtheme/attachicon.gif ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1379372039.794574.jpg Roaster I have my celtic top on when I got into the pub after games Edited September 17, 2013 by hoopy1967 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopy1967 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That's not real surely ? Above the law ? Provocation ? I wanted to shout abuse ? Offended ? Seriously ? WTF is that ? It's a bigoted, one sided, idiotic rangers fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yip, they truly deserve the permarage tag ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1379372039.794574.jpg What a fud, I honestly can't believe a grown man would write that. An idiot kid maybe. Best bit is: His wife backed him up for wanting someone kicked out a restaurant for wearing a Celtic top. Does that mean we can complain when we see these fat messes out and about in replicas? They aren't the sporty types and lets face it, most would get lost in Glasgow having never been. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Probably find his wife was like this. We have to put up with this day in-day out. BAN THEM I SAY! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopy1967 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Probably find his wife was like this. We have to put up with this day in-day out. BAN THEM I SAY! So vulnerable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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