Skudbook Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 1335296831[/url]' post='6171270']Didn't see Channel 4 news tonight but big credit to Stuart Cosgrove. One of only a handful of Scottish media figures who has made any of the relevant points during this whole saga. He was excellent on Off The Ball on Saturday, talking quite passionately about how perhaps diddy fans who want integrity and responsible governance actually are wiser and more capable than they've been made out to be. All you've heard from the sycophantic and usually incompetent media/governing bodies/club chairmen is that people who proclaim to not 'need tha rainjurs' are bitter, ignorant, paranoid, Celtic sympathising fools. Even Cowan who usually likes a pop at the OF was going down the sympathy route and it was absolutely tremendous to hear someone broadcast a bit of commen sense. Anyone watching C4 give me a wee summary of what he had to say tonight? He's become the Chief Scottish football mythbuster in my eyes He's mentioned often browsing P&B so keep up the good work! Cosgrove on ch4news Here you go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I really hope the views of the rest of Scotland get taken on board if Rangers do appeal this - the way that it's being covered, even on the BBC website it shows the Rangers fans outrage without showing this very common - "serve's them right, when's the funeral? Where are my tap shoes?" attitude. I look forward to the visit of Spartans to Broadwood next season. Also, about Cosgrove giving a view which echoes that, he is a P&B member, I have no idea who he is (I believe it's a state secret) but I'm not surprised he's of the "no to newco" school of thought. Yeah the impression given from the media about rangers has no relation to the opinion of the public, if you read any club forum it's 99% ...die rangers die. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabawsa_Ritchie Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Third Division Forum for this p*sh. :lol: :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Cosgrove on ch4news Here you go Credit where credit is due, and it is here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's like a day out for the remedial class. Will be an absolute sash bash. Please let them disgrace themselves badly - just before their appeal is heard ! That would be nice. See the bit in the flyer that says a "mass walk"? Is that satire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Cosgrove on ch4news Here you go That's a great interview - probably the most intelligent and unbiased "opinion" piece on this whole farce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yeah the impression given from the media about rangers has no relation to the opinion of the public, if you read any club forum it's 99% ...die rangers die. Its amusing to see these Celtic fans attempting to sidey up to the diddy fans. 99% want you lot to die as well. In fact 99.999999% of us. And when Rangers die, your club's days are numbered. Old Firm RIP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghPar1975 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 1335290776[/url]' post='6170884']Apologies if someone else said this but with 30 odd pages added today i aint reading them all. I read in the paper today that Rangers had a hotel stay in Edinburgh for their league match with Hearts on Saturday, WTF? It takes less than an hour from Ibrox to Gorgie and the game was at 3.00 FFS. Assuming with players and staff they had about 25 people staying over the bill would've been thousands, i thought Duff and Phelps were bean counters? Also worth a mention is how many creditors are owed less cash than the hotel bill? How can a hotel stay be necessary for a journey counted in minutes rather than hours? Are Rangers just taking the piss now? I thought it was bad enough trying to sign Cousin the same day they enter administration but this is just shitting on every small creditor. In case you're wondering the hotel they stayed in was Malmaisson, it certainly isnt a Travelodge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Never mind browsing. He's posted several times in this very thread!! Was he Perthshire Bell?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyman Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The police will break it up ,,you can't just organise a demonstration . Rangers fans will be right at home if that's the case. It'll take them back to Belfast or Derry. All that'll be missing is the rubber bullets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 In case you're wondering the hotel they stayed in was Malmaisson, it certainly isnt a Travelodge. In Leith? Fucks sake, Govans closer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Cosgrove on ch4news Here you go Wow. Great stuff. The narrow-minded rhetoric around Rangers clearly isn't contained within Scotland so it's even more pleasing to here someone speak the truth on a UK platform. He must be absolutely ashamed to share a station with the likes of Traynor and Chic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney sumner Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Credit where credit is due, and it is here Well said that man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintie1977 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 In Leith? Fucks sake, Govans closer! Could you imagine if a normal company were in administration and were still hosing thousands of pounds on pointless costs. I'm sure the creditors are ecstatic that their business interests are being treated with such disdane. Disgusting club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Newsnight Scotland at 11 on BBC2 might be worth watching: Newsnight Scotland @NewsnightScot Plus legal and financial experts join us to discuss whether there is now any way that #rangers can avoid liquidation. #newsnicht Edited April 24, 2012 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Are we taking that as confirmation that everything's being overturned on appeal then? Yes indeed, a rather telling statement ! Let battle commence between the SFA and SPL......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If Rangers maintain 45,000 crowds then this punishment will be meaningless in terms of survival, indeed it will stop the club spending even more money. It will certainly impact on their performance. The administrators were struggling to find a buyer in anycase. Looks like rangers fans want to 1) survive and 2) stay at the top of scottish football. It seems to have shocked them that this will not just happen. An independant panel makes a decision following brand new rules agreed by all clubs - big deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yes. The only downside of this whole hilarious Rangers mess is seeing Celtic fans taking part in the gloating, making them even more insufferable than usual. Two cheeks of the same shit smeared arse. Hopefully won't have to wait long until we can laugh at the demise of the green bigots as well. I was expecting and hoping someone would have dug up some serious dirt on the green bigots by now. Unfortunately whereas Celtic have Rangerstaxcase, Rangers have Mr Leggoland... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 That's the first time I've caught any of the C4 stuff, and Cosgrove gave a decent account for once. The BBC's coverage of this thing has been laughable, nevermind the nonsense the papers have been spouting. Rangers will be liquidated. There is no legal way of avoiding this. End of. Somebody (anybody) can and will start a newco, but the only thing making them "Rangers" will be a similar name. This newco, should be treated like any other club, and apply to join the SFL at the bottom rung. They will likely be accepted purely on the basis of fanbase, potential & revenue and this will be fair enough, as this is the type of criteria the SFL always seeks. HOWEVER, the time is running out to establish a newco in time for next season. The longer this drags out, the better, as we will be less likely to see a "Rangers" any time soon without a pyramid structure. In short, goodbye and good riddance you bigot scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Could you imagine if a normal company were in administration and were still hosing thousands of pounds on pointless costs. I'm sure the creditors are ecstatic that their business interests are being treated with such disdane. Disgusting club. A few people have banded about the phrase "they don't get it" well it's my turn. May i just say i'm not talking about their fans here either but Rangers as a whole club "don't get it" Apart from the 10 point deduction from the SPL what has changed down Govan way in the last 10 weeks? A lot of people have said this is the strangest administration ever. I agree Every punishment handed out is met with "no fair" and we will protest, appeal, get revenge etc. The club truly believe they are untouchable and again i'm not referring to just their fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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