BFTD Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I dunno where else to put this, but I know Mark Kermode has fans on here, and I just heard him say that Ghostbusters is a film that's aged badly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Peter Venkman is an a-hole tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, accies1874 said: Peter Venkman is an a-hole tbf Aye, but he was back in 1984 too! Here's a weird thing I've just noticed - Ghostbusters was given a PG certificate on release, which makes sense as I'd only just started at school in 1984, yet managed to see it three times in the cinema. It's now got a 12A certificate. What's that all about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Ghostbusters (1984) is perfect. A cinematic masterpiece. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Ghostbusters 1 and 2 are still fantastic. The only thing that hasn't aged well is some of the effects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 The other night I watched Any Given Sunday. Excellent film with some cast (Al Pacino, Jamie Foxx, Cameron Diaz, James Woods, Aaron Eckhart, LL Cool J, Dennis Quaid, John C McGinley, Lawrence Taylor). Pacino is the old school coach of a stuttering American football team who seem to have the requsite parts but not the requisite cohesion. When the starting quarterback (Quaid) is injured and the second string QB is subsequently injured in the very next play, third string QB (Foxx) must step up. After a shaky start, he soon becomes their star man and leads a charge towards the playoffs, but lets it go to his head, furthering the lack of team spirit. Diaz is the owner of the team and is clashing often with Pacino over his old school stuff, with her wanting to modernise things. She also wants to move on certain key players (Quaid and Taylor) to freshen things up, and because they're both fucked. James Woods is the unscrupulous team doctor who cuts corners and gets guys back playing using any means necessary (there's a CTE subplot here with him and Taylor). Anyway, Foxx soon becomes widely loathed by the defence for being a big headed w**k and for insulting them at a party, with the consequence of them not blocking some big hits on him at a game. Quaid makes it back for the playoffs and Foxx is benched. Foxx goes through a redemption arc and when Quaid is inevitable injured, has to step up. Al Pacino gives a legendary speech that is still played by teams of all sports today. Someone loses an eye during a game. A car is cut in half during a party. There's a comedy music video. Very enjoyable stuff and far better than I've described it. Would highly recommend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Last night I watched Superman 3. Did so because I've been listening to a podcast that discusses shit films recently (How Did This Get Made) and heard the episode featuring this film yesterday. An absolute wreck of a film, but fairly amusing. There should be zero threat to Superman but he somehow acts even dumber than he does in the phenomenally overrated first two. There's no super villains here. There's no clever plan. It's just a rich guy, his sister and Richard Pryor who is quite good at using computers, and their plot is to control the world's coffee supply. Superman could, and should, have this nonsense sorted out in about 2 minutes, but instead we get just 2 hours of fucking pish. The film opens with a 5 minutes slapstick comedy routine involving numerous pratfalls and prop comedy. The term 'comedy' should be used lightly here though. Many, many liberties are taken, such as a single computer being able to control pretty much anything, Richard Pryor skiing off of a skyscraper (and being absolutely fine), everyone not knowing that Superman's weakness is kryptonite until a lassie says she read about it in a magazine interview (so Superman revealed his biggest secret in a fucking interview?!), using tar to fill in the formula for making kryptonite in a lab, Richard Pryor getting half of the plot from the back on cigarette packets and multiple other pish. This is the one where Superman turns heel, but instead of a terrifying super villain, we get a daft wee high school level prankster who 'fixes' the leaning tower of Pisa, blows out the olympic torch and gets drunk in a bar where he flicks peanuts at glass bottles. Oh aye, and he shags some lassie who somehow survives. This leads to a scrap in a scrapyard, between Superman and Clark Kent somehow. It's incredibly goofy and cheesy, but Clark prevails and banishes bad Superman, and now becomes good Superman once more. There's some other bollocks here such as a sub plot romance with Lana Lang, a woman turning in to a robot, acid, a 'supercomputer' being made after Pryor draws a children's level 'sketch' of it on a napkin, stupid coincidental contrivancies and hot air balloons. A fucking ridiculous film with multiple plot holes, riddled with inconsistencies, rife with campy, cheesy acting and featuring an absolute goof of a hero. His costume remained cheap and cringey as with the first two films, although at least like them this one didn't take itself so seriously. Superman as a character is the worst, as really he should be indestructible and, given his powers, under zero threat and able to deal with anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieKTID Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Last night I watched Superman 3. Did so because I've been listening to a podcast that discusses shit films recently (How Did This Get Made) and heard the episode featuring this film yesterday. An absolute wreck of a film, but fairly amusing. There should be zero threat to Superman but he somehow acts even dumber than he does in the phenomenally overrated first two. There's no super villains here. There's no clever plan. It's just a rich guy, his sister and Richard Pryor who is quite good at using computers, and their plot is to control the world's coffee supply. Superman could, and should, have this nonsense sorted out in about 2 minutes, but instead we get just 2 hours of fucking pish. The film opens with a 5 minutes slapstick comedy routine involving numerous pratfalls and prop comedy. The term 'comedy' should be used lightly here though. Many, many liberties are taken, such as a single computer being able to control pretty much anything, Richard Pryor skiing off of a skyscraper (and being absolutely fine), everyone not knowing that Superman's weakness is kryptonite until a lassie says she read about it in a magazine interview (so Superman revealed his biggest secret in a fucking interview?!), using tar to fill in the formula for making kryptonite in a lab, Richard Pryor getting half of the plot from the back on cigarette packets and multiple other pish. This is the one where Superman turns heel, but instead of a terrifying super villain, we get a daft wee high school level prankster who 'fixes' the leaning tower of Pisa, blows out the olympic torch and gets drunk in a bar where he flicks peanuts at glass bottles. Oh aye, and he shags some lassie who somehow survives. This leads to a scrap in a scrapyard, between Superman and Clark Kent somehow. It's incredibly goofy and cheesy, but Clark prevails and banishes bad Superman, and now becomes good Superman once more. There's some other bollocks here such as a sub plot romance with Lana Lang, a woman turning in to a robot, acid, a 'supercomputer' being made after Pryor draws a children's level 'sketch' of it on a napkin, stupid coincidental contrivancies and hot air balloons. A fucking ridiculous film with multiple plot holes, riddled with inconsistencies, rife with campy, cheesy acting and featuring an absolute goof of a hero. His costume remained cheap and cringey as with the first two films, although at least like them this one didn't take itself so seriously. Superman as a character is the worst, as really he should be indestructible and, given his powers, under zero threat and able to deal with anything. Is that the one where he bicycle kicks a missile? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 That's Superman IV. Superman III is great, and I won't hear otherwise. How can you not enjoy this? Cinematic perfection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 13 hours ago, BFTD said: Aye, but he was back in 1984 too! Yeah that's true. I suppose some of his... forthrightness might be a bit more apparent nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 186. Halloween (2007)* - Digital Rental Yes ok, it’s absolutely pants. The characters are complete voids, there’s none of the original’s tension, the technical craft is all replaced with shaky closeups, the music doesn’t fit the style and is only there because it’s so iconic etc etc. It’s garbage. What I will say is that the overarching idea of how environments shape a person was done in a moderately interesting way that makes the violence feel a tiny bit less like it's just there for the hell of it. I was a bit perturbed as to what the purpose was of the 50-odd minute section giving Michael Myers a backstory, but it makes a bit more sense in retrospect and might not just be trying to sympathise with a serial killer. Essentially, if We Need to Talk About Kevin is the Champions League of exploring these ideas, then Rob Zombie’s Halloween is the Lowland League. This is part one of the Halloween franchise extravaganza. I’m doing it in a slightly different order so as to not peak with the very first film. 187. Halloween II (2009)* - Netflix Wtf did I watch? It’s like a CSI Miami director had just been on a David Lynch binge and wanted to apply it to the Halloween franchise. 188. Halloween II (1981) - Lionsgate+ I don’t mind this, although my thoughts haven’t really changed since I first saw it last year. It’s an epilogue more than it’s a sequel, and when it’s continuing the story of the first one it’s actually quite fun (except the big reveal), but almost everything in the hospital is reminiscent of daft British horror films from the 50s/60s – I know a lot of people have a soft spot for them but I’m not a huge fan. Not everything in the hospital is bad, though, as there are a couple of quite inventive kills and reveals, and I enjoyed the pre-horror stuff when they were just establishing the characters. The film wouldn’t be any worse off if they wrote out Laurie though. 189. Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)* - Lionsgate+ An enjoyable entry that probably wouldn’t have provoked as strong reactions (positive or negative) in the general public if it weren’t a Halloween film. It’s got some really good moments but also has a campy atmosphere and two boring central characters (they really rushed into the sex scene, eh?), and I actually feel that if they had the courage of their convictions and didn’t lean into the silliness then they could’ve had a legitimately good horror rather than some schlock. 190. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)* - Lionsgate+ Pretty awful. It teases you towards the end with the potential of a home invasion movie set in the Halloween franchise, but that never properly materialised. “A town full of beer bellies running around in the dark with shotguns” is quite funny though. Should’ve just made a film about them. 191. Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers (1989)* - Lionsgate+ 2 tried to be a continuation, 3 tried to separate itself from the franchise, 4 tried to ‘get back to basics’ by aping the first. With no. 5, we are now firmly in the territory of them not giving a f**k and transitioning into ridiculous daytime TV, disposable junk centred around Donald Pleasance giving an all over the shop portrayal of a plot device and a wee kid who was silly in 4 but, well, I don’t even know how to describe the character in this one. I don’t even know how to describe the film tbh – nothing makes sense in my head when thinking about it. I actually had to read the Wikipedia page to remind myself how it ended. It's irredeemably terrible. Edited October 28, 2022 by accies1874 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Superman 3's a classic example of a film you know is bad, yet just has so many memorable scenes that you can't help but enjoy it. Not sure if you need to have seen it when you were a kid; it might just seem bafflingly terrible to younger audiences. It also features one of the most terrifying scenes in any film aimed at kids, when the lassie gets pulled into the machine and turned into a cyborg. It's so notoriously horrible that it's been cut from the TV versions for decades, and it wouldn't surprise me if the DVD/Blu-Ray versions have been edited to keep the certificate down. Seriously, it's disturbing as f**k. Halloween 3's genuinely the best in the series, other than the original. Straddles the line between being goofy and sinister, but it's a lot of fun. I discovered recently that, when our hero is banging his younger sidekick in the hotel room, the woman in the next room is the actor's real-life wife, and apparently she was cast without anyone realising they were married. Edit: also, Rob Zombie's Halloween film felt like he really wanted to make a prequel, but he couldn't get funding for anything less than a full remake, so that was the compromise. I don't remember a fucking thing about the sequel to it. Edited October 28, 2022 by BFTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, BFTD said: Superman 3's a classic example of a film you know is bad, yet just has so many memorable scenes that you can't help but enjoy it. Not sure if you need to have seen it when you were a kid; it might just seem bafflingly terrible to younger audiences. It also features one of the most terrifying scenes in any film aimed at kids, when the lassie gets pulled into the machine and turned into a cyborg. It's so notoriously horrible that it's been cut from the TV versions for decades, and it wouldn't surprise me if the DVD/Blu-Ray versions have been edited to keep the certificate down. Seriously, it's disturbing as f**k Superman 3 scared the absolute shite out of me as a kid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Superman 3 scared the absolute shite out of me as a kid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dysartrovers Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Fully recommend the greatest beer run of all time. Very entertaining 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Superman 3's a classic example of a film you know is bad, yet just has so many memorable scenes that you can't help but enjoy it. Not sure if you need to have seen it when you were a kid; it might just seem bafflingly terrible to younger audiences. It also features one of the most terrifying scenes in any film aimed at kids, when the lassie gets pulled into the machine and turned into a cyborg. It's so notoriously horrible that it's been cut from the TV versions for decades, and it wouldn't surprise me if the DVD/Blu-Ray versions have been edited to keep the certificate down. Seriously, it's disturbing as f**k. Halloween 3's genuinely the best in the series, other than the original. Straddles the line between being goofy and sinister, but it's a lot of fun. I discovered recently that, when our hero is banging his younger sidekick in the hotel room, the woman in the next room is the actor's real-life wife, and apparently she was cast without anyone realising they were married. Edit: also, Rob Zombie's Halloween film felt like he really wanted to make a prequel, but he couldn't get funding for anything less than a full remake, so that was the compromise. I don't remember a fucking thing about the sequel to it.That is amazing. Maybe they're into that idk, but I'd say he got the better deal than getting melted by a zapper. You should find random clips of the second Rob Zombie one on YouTube and try to decipher what's going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) I saw Superman 3 via Amazon (rental) and it had the aforementioned scene of the lassie being turned in to a robot. Can definitely see why it would scare kids but as an adult it's just fucking ridiculous. She just gets a few bits of metal and some wires glued to her face and in the space of about 3 seconds somehow becomes a robot who can fight Superman. Total comedy pish. Edited October 29, 2022 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 In case anyone's curious about what we're talking about, here's a clip. Take a look at the fucking comments! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: I sae Superman 3 via Amazon (rental) and it had the aforementioned scene of the lassie being turned in to a robot. Can definitely see why it would scare kids but as an adult it's just fucking ridiculous. She just gets a few bits of metal and some wires glued to her face and in the space of about 3 seconds somehow becomes a robot who can fight Superman. Total comedy pish. TBF, Fifers grow up sacrificing their neighbours to the angry orange ball in the sky, so I doubt anything committed to celluloid holds any fear for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Another absolutely fantastic scene, from a film full of them. We haven't even discussed Superman shagging Pamela Stephenson and getting pissed up and smashing up a pub, yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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