Fullerene Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said: thats not the point though - Picard speaks to the bridge and the crew in English and many French people speak perfect English without a hint of an accent. Yeah. .. and I have met some real Klingons who say Worf sounds like a Terran imposter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Ghostbusters Afterlife 8/10 Loved it. The nostalgia had me the whole way through. Pretty much just a remake of the original film though. As much as i enjoyed it, they need to knock it on the head now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: In Star Trek The Next Generation, Patrick Stewart is supposed to be a Frenchman. After a couple of attempts they decided to abandon the idea and he spoke in his normal accent afterwards. This was discussed when he appeared on Parkinson, who as a fellow Yorkshire man suggested that it would have been better if Patrick had done Jean Luc Picard in a thick Yorkshire accent. Patrick then attempted to do so. "Space. Final frontier. These are voyages of Enterprise .." but he couldn't get far before he burst out laughing. Cinema and TV is all about asking you to accept certain things. Case in point - Star Trek is not actually filmed in outer space or other planets! Once you accept that point, why does an accent or even language have to be authentic? ‘allo ‘allo in space would have been pish IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Fullerene said: Yeah. .. and I have met some real Klingons who say Worf sounds like a Terran imposter. you're not understanding my point but no worries as I probably haven't explained it very well. and those who consider Worf to be a Terran - maybe he is. Shine a light in his eye. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: ‘allo ‘allo in space would have been pish IMO. I will say this only kkkggghaart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, KingRocketman II said: you're not understanding my point but no worries as I probably haven't explained it very well. and those who consider Worf to be a Terran - maybe he is. Shine a light in his eye. When I watch a film, I fully accept I have to suspend belief to some extent. What is the possibility that beings in a galaxy far far away speak in a language that I understand? Probably none. Aftèr all there are lots of people in Scotland I don't understand even slightly. My point is that most films require a suspension of belief, so why does a correct accent ever matter in a film. Edited January 8, 2022 by Fullerene 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Fullerene said: When I watch a film, I fully accept I have to suspend belief to some extent. What is the possibility that beings in a galaxy far far away speak in a language that I understand? Probably none. Aftèr all there are lots of people in Scotland I don't understand even slightly. My point is that most films require a suspension of belief, so why does a correct accent ever matter in a film. that is my point - it doesn't need to be a correct accent!! What it doesn't need to be is French people portrayed as speaking French (even though it is in English) speaking like someone from 'allo 'allo. There are lots of articles about this - its is not about suspension of disbelief it is the almost constant use of a trope that doesn't make any sense that is my bug-bear. https://patenttranslator.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/the-incredible-inauthenticity-of-fake-foreign-accents-in-american-movies/ - Why is it that in American movies set in foreign, far-away and exotic countries (such as communist Czechoslovakia or Nazi Germany), actors whose first language is English are forced to adopt a fake foreign accent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, KingRocketman II said: that is my point - it doesn't need to be a correct accent!! What it doesn't need to be is French people portrayed as speaking French (even though it is in English) speaking like someone from 'allo 'allo. There are lots of articles about this - its is not about suspension of disbelief it is the almost constant use of a trope that doesn't make any sense that is my bug-bear. All this talk about fake accents. I came across this clip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Parasite - (2019 Academy Award Winner - Best Picture) - South Korean dark comedy (subtitles) directed by Bong-Joon Ho. Heart warming, cynical, amusing, shocking. Well worth a watch, thoroughly enjoyed it. One of those films when the credits start rolling you think, ‘wtf did we just watch there’!?[emoji15] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6. Evil Stepmom (2021)* - Channel 5 Channel 5's TV movies are amazing. They're all 85 minutes, have the most on the nose titles, are lit like low-budget adverts and have some sort of familial "mystery". I'm certain they're a scam. In Evil Stepmom, a dad (played by the only person who looks like he knows he's in a load of nonsense) coaches his two daughters' soccer team "Toffees", who play in blue - I can only assume the link to Everton is coincidental - before the EVIL STEPMOM arrives on the scene with her daughter. Will the EVIL STEPMOM turn out to be an adequate replacement for their dead mum, or will she be EVIL? Watch and find out! 7. A Swedish Love Story (1970)* - MUBI This is wonderful. I was quite taken by the couple of other Roy Andersson films I'd seen due to their weird, detached style that makes you feel like you're spying on folk at vulnerable moments, and I wasn't sure if the one-take, still-camera, sketch show nature of them was something that he'd done in all of his work until I saw A Swedish Love Story (the other two were part of his Living trilogy so the aesthetic could be limited to that). Despite this being much more conventional aesthetically, it still gives that respect to everyday lives and stories and has faith in them to justify a feature. The atmosphere is really enticing which makes it all the sadder that you watch a teenage romance starting out with the backdrop of so many bitter/dissatisfied relationships that probably started out similarly to the central romance. I was conflicted between just enjoying seeing people like each other before the corruption of adulthood, and thinking that it's just gonna end up like the other relationships we see. I think it's more an ode to youth than a depressing tale that it's all gonna go to shit, but I suppose the two go hand in hand. 8. Career Girls (1997) - Film4 Another growing up film. I really liked how it compared the past versions of the characters with their "present" selves and how those previous insecurities still permeate despite trying to learn to hide them in adulthood. The past versions of Annie and Hannah are much more exaggerated and I wonder if that was done to make contrast more distinct - that didn't really work for me though. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it as a character study about revisiting the past literally and metaphorically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Twinkle said: Ghostbusters Afterlife 8/10 Loved it. The nostalgia had me the whole way through. Pretty much just a remake of the original film though. As much as i enjoyed it, they need to knock it on the head now Ha. Just watched it now. Came on to post that it was absolute nonsense. I fucking loved it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 In the heat of the night I marked the sad passing of Sidney Poitier by digging out my DVD of this classic. Poitier plays a detective helping a bunch of racist redneck cops solve a murder. Excellent performances all round. 10/10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Stripes 80s screwball comedy about a pair of slackers who join the army and become unlikely heroes. Decent cast including Bill Murray, John Candy and Warren Oates. Plenty of slapstick humour and gratuitous tits. This is from the same fine tradition of American comedies as the likes of Porky's or Police Academy. A perfect film for those times when you just want a laugh and can't be arsed with anything too highbrow. 8/10 Edited January 8, 2022 by Paul Kersey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSU Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 002 -- The 355. Jessica Chastain, Diane Kruger, Penelope Cruz, and Lupita Nyong'o are the reluctant intelligence agents, forced to team up to chase a McGuffin around the globe that, if in the wrong hands, could start WW3. Despite a pretty solid cast, the story is boring and predictable and takes itself way too seriously. The trailer made this out to be a bit of light-hearted fun and I feel I have a decent complaint to take to the Trailer Ombudsman. No one onscreen seems to be enjoying themselves and it was even boring enough to sedate the group of unruly youths who'd occupied the back row of the cinema into a stupor. 3/10 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just to chime in on the accent thing, Chernobyl also went the same route as The Death of Stalin and was all the better for it. The only way to improve it would to ensure the characters from the same regions of the Soviet Union as each other had similar English accents to each other too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Hadn't realised until now that I quite fancy a film about something Scottish with Russian actors speaking English. Or, better yet, imagine if those Wakaliwood boys made a film about William Wallace! I'd be pre-ordering the Blu-Ray now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 21/12/2021 at 09:16, Fullerene said: Jaws is a monster movie similar to Alien or Predator. As such there is always the issue of a convincing monster or not. I can think of several films that went downhill when the monster appears - possibly most. However the alien crab crawl scene was thankfully cut from Alien. Jean Claude Van Damne was thankfully not the Predator. Jaws benefitted from shark problems reducing the screen time for the shark and the music being an excellent substitute. Suggesting the shark looked fake is an easy excuse. Guess what. It was. Definitely an excellent film 10/10. To quote Mark Kermode...Jaws is not a film about a shark , it's a film with a shark in it, the characters in the film is what makes it such a great watch . Brilliant performances by the 3 lead characters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Co.Down Hibee said: To quote Mark Kermode...Jaws is not a film about a shark , it's a film with a shark in it, the characters in the film is what makes it such a great watch . Brilliant performances by the 3 lead characters It would be more realistic if the shark had a Russian accent though... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 11:38, Clockwork said: Parasite - (2019 Academy Award Winner - Best Picture) - South Korean dark comedy (subtitles) directed by Bong-Joon Ho. Heart warming, cynical, amusing, shocking. Well worth a watch, thoroughly enjoyed it. One of those films when the credits start rolling you think, ‘wtf did we just watch there’!? Heart warming???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The Hitmans wife's bodyguard a couple of hours of nonsense , Ryan Reynolds does his thing, Samuel Jackson does his thing and Salma Hayek gives a mad OTT performance...it's OK, not as good as the first one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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