Dindeleux Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 That benteke is a player right enough I was just coming on to say that, looks like he could be a star. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Dry your eyes! Going down to Chelsea Villa next Sunday, bring it on. Where were you yesterday?...I hope that's not you jumping back on the bandwagon now things have started picking up!? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Gerrard has been shite for about 3 seasons and clearly doesn't suit the playing system that Rodgers is using. He was at his best playing in front of a midfield 4 and behind a lone central striker and he has not adapted to playing in a midfield 3 well at all. Dalglish successfully marginalised Carragher, which was the other big hurdle to be addressed, but for Liverpool to really improve they'll need to do the same with Gerrard. At the end of the day, irrespective of what has gone before, players should only be picked on merit, not based on reputation and past achievements. I strongly suspect that a midfield three of Allen, Sahin and Lucas would be more successful in this system, especially allowing for Lucas to be the ball winner and freeing up Allen and Sahin to create rather than burdening them with a deeper role that they're not comfortable with. To do a straight up comparison of the most recent 4 manager's teams reveals the extent to which money troubles under the old owners and careless spending under the new ones have weakened their pool of playing staff, plus the big change in formation under Rodgers. Liverpool's midfield / forward line under Benitez generally lined up 4-4-1-1:- -------------------Torres---------------- ---- ------------------Gerrard---------------- --- Babel - Alonso - Mascherano - Kuyt Hodgson was usually 4-4-2 or 4-5-1:- -------------Torres----Ngog------------- Meireles----Lucas----Gerrard-----Kuyt Dalglish's team was usually 4-4-2 (with occasional use of 3-5-2):- ------------------Suarez--------Carroll-- ------------- Rodriguez------Gerrard------Spearing----- Kuyt And Rodgers' system of 4-2-3-1 / 4-3-3:- Sterling------Suarez------Downing/Shelvey/ Henderson/Borini/Suso/Cole Henderson/Downing/Shelvey/Sahin--------Allen- ------------Gerrard Rodgers might well be able to foster a winning style and implement his philosophy, but only if he's willing to make the difficult decisions on the playing squad and able to make a lot of moves out as well as in over a reasonable period of time. I can't imagine all the surgery that's needed being achieved in just one season or two transfer windows (this summer and the coming January). He's managed to clear out a large amount of dross and marginalise others so that they'll not feature much and will be more likely to leave in the next available window and that was necessary, but there's still plenty more to do on that front if they're to improve long term and get back to having a strong, balanced squad, which they haven't had since Benitez's tenure arguably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Cant see Lambert going for Downing. Villa trying to cut costs, Liverpool would want some of the £20m they spent on him back and i can see Downing wanting to stay on a decent sized wage. Maybe QPR as they like spending large amounts on players who arent worth half of what they pay and only occasionally turn in a decent performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Lambert doesn't like wingers anyway. We need a ball-winning central midfielder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 That's brilliant. Do Sky deliberately employ the most loathsome, semi-literate individuals known to humanity? Think Rodgers may be out of his depth. Would manchester united appoint a manager with only one season's experience in the top flight with a mid-table team? Don't think so. That really doesn't add up, if you think it through... given who Man Utd's manager is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Who dresses in red that nobody believes in? The Liverpool team. (taken from sickipedia, the pinnacle of human endeavour) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBairn1876 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 And again this thread falls on to page 2. Fickle critics! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Once again, you don't appear to get the notion of an LOL thread. Maybe you need help with the concept. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The World truly has ended - Downing was outstanding tonight. What a superb pass to put Gerrard in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 What a tremendous result, beating the mighty Fulham at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBairn1876 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) What a tremendous result, beating the mighty Fulham at home. Maybe not tremendous, but certainly a very good result against a useful Fulham team who started the season very well. Good to see Downing get that long awaited good performance in, also good to see Stevie Gerrard back on the scoresheet. Hope it keeps up. Edited December 22, 2012 by RobBairn1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Maybe not tremendous, but certainly a very good result against a useful Fulham team who started the season very well. Good to see Downing get that long awaited good performance in, also good to see Stevie Gerrard back on the scoresheet. Hope it keeps up. Fulham were utter pish. They didn't look very useful tonight - or last week for that matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Fulham were utter pish. They didn't look very useful tonight - or last week for that matter. You are actually correct there. I think any team would have stuck 2 or 3 past them tonight, they were absolutely diabolical. Their away record in the EPL is absolutely shocking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 can only beat whos in front of you liverpool were ruthless tonight, not often thats said about them no matter who they played 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Riises 'defending' against Downing for his goal was a fucking embarrassment to the point Jol should fine him. Instead of sucking off the Kop do the job your supposed to do you slag. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Little doubt that Fulham were poor but a good performance from Liverpool and nice to pump a team at home after the way things have been at Anfield the last 18 months. As Rodgers said after Downing will be going no where with performances like that. Him and Johnson linked up well. Interesting that there wasn't 1 of Rodgers signings in the side and Allen certainly wasn't missed. Pouring wet day in Anfield not much fun getting in and out. Going to both Stoke and QPR over Christmas. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 can only beat whos in front of you liverpool were ruthless tonight, not often thats said about them no matter who they played Wonder if you would have said the same were an upstart former Celtic player in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Wonder if you would have said the same were an upstart former Celtic player in charge. As opposed to rodgers who is a celtic fan you mean???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Corner turned IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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