NotThePars Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually starting to hate Labour more than the Tories. With the Tories you at least know what you're getting; a party that doesn't give a damn about Scotland and who when it comes to policy making won't even have us in their thoughts. But the Scots associated with Labour actually make me more angry when I watch them on T.V. Sarwar and Lamont are two of the most unsavoury politicians I've ever come across, and they would rather vote against independence because Alex Salmond supports it and not because they believe it will mean Scots are worse off as a result. Exactly. The Tories are what you expect them to be, utter b*****ds but Labour continue to speak socialist or centre-left at least and act centre-right without any real challenge from large swathes of the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If ships don't get ordered, shipyards close. Thats what happens. Will the Scottish Navy be investing in some ships? Where is the money coming from? (and what currency would it be?...) I read that in the event of a Yes vote, Scotland wouldn't even have defence planes with adequate radar. And how many Scots would join the Armed Forces given about 90% of them are Unionits?.. I read that of a platoon of 32 soldiers who returned from Afghanistan is 2013 were asked if they would join a Scottish defence force and 30 said no. The average Scottish squadie is, however, thick as pig shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Excellent, they'll cost less to house and feed when they're on the dole. Eh? As opposed to being the tax paying soldiers they are now as they contribute to the economy? The average Scottish squadie is, however, thick as pig shit. You may be correct but we live in a democracy, where any two idiots can out-vote a genius, not that those soldiers are idiots and not that Yes voters are genius'. There may be a few in there, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bojangles Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If ships don't get ordered, shipyards close. Thats what happens. Will the Scottish Navy be investing in some ships? Where is the money coming from? (and what currency would it be?...) I read that in the event of a Yes vote, Scotland wouldn't even have defence planes with adequate radar. And how many Scots would join the Armed Forces given about 90% of them are Unionits?.. I read that of a platoon of 32 soldiers who returned from Afghanistan is 2013 were asked if they would join a Scottish defence force and 30 said no.I quite like that. "Union nits". Got a good ring to it. Anyway, the hardware would need to be divided between the nations. No idea where you're getting this radar pish from. I'm pretty sure 32 is smaller than 1000, so unfortunately that's inadmissible on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If ships don't get ordered, shipyards close. Thats what happens. Will the Scottish Navy be investing in some ships? Where is the money coming from? (and what currency would it be?...) I read that in the event of a Yes vote, Scotland wouldn't even have defence planes with adequate radar. And how many Scots would join the Armed Forces given about 90% of them are Unionits?.. I read that of a platoon of 32 soldiers who returned from Afghanistan is 2013 were asked if they would join a Scottish defence force and 30 said no.Good. Scotland doesn't want the bloated, imperialistic military that the UK has. rUK can fight their own illegal wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Anyway, the hardware would need to be divided between the nations. No idea where you're getting this radar pish from. I'm pretty sure 32 is smaller than 1000, so unfortunately that's inadmissible on here. It was reported in the Scotsman. I note there's another article in that paper today with the chief secretary to the treasury claiming a deal for an independent Scotland to use the pound is "very unlikely".. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-pound-deal-very-unlikely-1-3174957 As for the soldiers, granted only 32 were asked but how many Yes voters do you think are currently in the army? Safe to say not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If ships don't get ordered, shipyards close. Thats what happens. Will the Scottish Navy be investing in some ships? Where is the money coming from? (and what currency would it be?...) I read that in the event of a Yes vote, Scotland wouldn't even have defence planes with adequate radar. And how many Scots would join the Armed Forces given about 90% of them are Unionits?.. I read that of a platoon of 32 soldiers who returned from Afghanistan is 2013 were asked if they would join a Scottish defence force and 30 said no. Good. Soldiers are basically civil servants getting paid to do f**k all. Would be a better use of public money to pay them £30,000 a year to pick-up litter on the streets in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It was reported in the Scotsman. I note there's another article in that paper today with the chief secretary to the treasury claiming a deal for an independent Scotland to use the pound is "very unlikely".. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-pound-deal-very-unlikely-1-3174957 As for the soldiers, granted only 32 were asked but how many Yes voters do you think are currently in the army? Safe to say not many. The pound is an internationally freely traded currency. The rUK could do nothing - NOTHING - to stop any country in the world using the pound if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The point has already been made repeatedly but I'll make it again. Who the f**k is going to attack Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bojangles Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It was reported in the Scotsman. I note there's another article in that paper today with the chief secretary to the treasury claiming a deal for an independent Scotland to use the pound is "very unlikely".. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-pound-deal-very-unlikely-1-3174957 As for the soldiers, granted only 32 were asked but how many Yes voters do you think are currently in the army? Safe to say not many. Well, then it was in the Scotsman it must be true. Pound stuff is just another "wont pre negotiate" tactic. I know a grand total of three members of the Armed forces and they're all voting yes. That means Scottish armed forces personnel are obviously 100% behind independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I note there's another article in that paper today with the chief secretary to the treasury claiming a deal for an independent Scotland to use the pound is "very unlikely".. The Channel Islands use the pound. The Channel Islands are not in the UK. Channel Islands. Pound. Not in UK. You're basically going down the AWRA route of linking us to loads of bitter unionist propaganda without actually knowing what the f**k you're reading. Although to be fair to you he literally just supplied links to articles and contributed nothing, whereas you're posting shite that matches up perfectly with the shite you're linking us to. So yeah, pretty shite post overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The point has already been made repeatedly but I'll make it again. Who the f**k is going to attack Scotland? rUK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If ships don't get ordered, shipyards close. Thats what happens. Will the Scottish Navy be investing in some ships? Where is the money coming from? (and what currency would it be?...) I read that in the event of a Yes vote, Scotland wouldn't even have defence planes with adequate radar. And how many Scots would join the Armed Forces given about 90% of them are Unionists?.. I read that of a platoon of 32 soldiers who returned from Afghanistan in 2013 were asked if they would join a Scottish defence force and 30 said no. 1. Yes. 2. Where is the money coming from at the moment? 3. The pound. 4. No radar? You've been reading the Daily Telegraph. 5. I'm honestly not that bothered if the Scots want to stay in the CDU army. We can recruit more of them. I do like this idea that we would simply be unable to fill vacancies for jobs in an independent Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Jamaldo, aren't you the one who embarrassed himself so much on this thread that you apologised to the posters? And yet you're cliaiming other people are making sh*te posts? Strange. . I'm honestly not that bothered if the Scots want to stay in the CDU army. We can recruit more of them. Yeah, because people are lining up to join the army as it is aren't they? Yet another example of wishful thinking from a Scottish Separatist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 As for shipyards, I couldn't actually give a toss whether they close. It's not a 21st Century economic concern. Close them, Faslane and all their other grubby little sub-industries please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Jamaldo, aren't you the one who embarrassed himself so much on this thread that you apologised to the posters? And yet you're cliaiming other people are making sh*te posts? Strange. I made one poor post directed at yourself which I retracted almost immediately. I didn't apologise to anyone and didn't need to. I think we've all posted something that wasn't well thought out at the time. However, some seem to be worse than others for rubbish posts. Anyway I'm guilty of breaking my own rule of not replying to you as you're clearly beyond convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yeah, because people are lining up to join the army as it is aren't they? Yet another example of wishful thinking from a Scottish Separatist. The same army that is shedding people left, right, and centre? I'm not worried about recruiting for a Scottish armed forces. And even if you were right, so what? What is the issue? Saves money on paying them, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Anyway I'm guilty of breaking my own rule of not replying to you as you're clearly beyond convincing. Try. Not to reply to me, that is. Maybe you could take inspiration from myself? I'm very skilled at ignoring people. All the best. The same army that is shedding people left, right, and centre? I'm not worried about recruiting for a Scottish armed forces. And even if you were right, so what? What is the issue? Saves money on paying them, doesn't it? I am correct. If you don't realise how a lack of defence for Scotland would be an issue, I urge you to investigate before you make your decision in regards to your vote for Independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Who is going to attack us? We would not struggle to recruit people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If you don't realise how a lack of defence for Scotland would be an issueLet's flip this around. Could you please explain why a lack of defence for Scotland would be an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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