BFTD Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QoS vs Alloa for me I'm afraid. Hello Hedgey, my old friend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Google use tax avoidance schemes. Tax evasion is illegal. Don't know if anyone watched the recent programme about the Fair Tax Town. I had never heard of the thing previously. Showed some of the gimmicks the big corporations used; U2 and The Stones using the same thing to minimise tax on royalties. The guy they had the meeting with from HMRC was an apologist arsehole for big business. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'm guessing it was on BBC? I seen a snippet of it on the news but never realised it was a program. When was it on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Don't know if anyone watched the recent programme about the Fair Tax Town. I had never heard of the thing previously. Showed some of the gimmicks the big corporations used; U2 and The Stones using the same thing to minimise tax on royalties. The guy they had the meeting with from HMRC was an apologist arsehole for big business. I reckon much of the problem, if it us a problem, stems back to the days of 'supertax' which helped develop a culture of acceptable tax avoidance and the necessary schemes to help make it possible. And just simple human desire to want more, and more... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The guy they had the meeting with from HMRC was an apologist arsehole for big business. Saw this too. Got the impression his message was "yes, it's unfair to everyone else, but these big guys employ a lot of people who we'd be giving benefits to otherwise, so it's kind of worth our while, ken" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I reckon much of the problem, if it us a problem, stems back to the days of 'supertax' which helped develop a culture of acceptable tax avoidance and the necessary schemes to help make it possible. And just simple human desire to want more, and more... IIRC when I started my business 20 years ago Corporation Tax for big business was 40% and for small businesses like mine it was 28%. Small business CT is now so 20% and due to drop to 19% then 18% over the next few years. For large business its dropped to either 21% or even 20%; I don't know is the new lower rates are to apply to big businesses. One way or another, for large businesses CT has effectively halved in that time and companies still don't want to pay their way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Oh my. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The episode where Homer tries to become an inventor is on Channel 4 now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Google provide an amazing service for a lot of companies and google maps is a wonderful thing, to get aerial photos like you can easily achieve on that has helped loads of companies out so they are pretty invaluable. Starbucks on the other hand are just selling hot water at a rip off price and are scum of the earth. Amazon are good but you can buy most stuff from other places at around the same price , they're just so dam convenient. London after slightly less than two hours of Throbber's leadership: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Google provide an amazing service for a lot of companies and google maps is a wonderful thing, to get aerial photos like you can easily achieve on that has helped loads of companies out so they are pretty invaluable. Starbucks on the other hand are just selling hot water at a rip off price and are scum of the earth. Amazon are good but you can buy most stuff from other places at around the same price , they're just so dam convenient. ^^^^ Donald Trump's new economic advisor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Snapchat. It's fucking doss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Snapchat. It's fucking doss. Someone received some tit pics this morning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 a recent addition has been very forthcoming with pictures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I didn't spew after getting my arm twisted into insanity this morning. I'm going back to bed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) IIRC when I started my business 20 years ago Corporation Tax for big business was 40% and for small businesses like mine it was 28%. Small business CT is now so 20% and due to drop to 19% then 18% over the next few years. For large business its dropped to either 21% or even 20%; I don't know is the new lower rates are to apply to big businesses. One way or another, for large businesses CT has effectively halved in that time and companies still don't want to pay their way. The term 'Supertax' related to personal tax, not corporate. The average rate of personal tax in the 1970's was 83% - i googled it! That no doubt contributed to a culture of tax avoidance which survives until today. And it's not surprising that companies cottoned onto this'opportunity' as well. As for corporate tax - as with personal tax the headline rate has undoubtedly dropped. But alongside that we have seen increases in the so called 'stealth taxes.' Companies now face increased social costs i.e. NI and Pension contributions. Few would say tax is lower now than in the past. Anyway, politics thread for this pish? Edited January 24, 2016 by hk blues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 The term 'Supertax' related to personal tax, not corporate. The average rate of personal tax in the 1970's was 83% - i googled it! That no doubt contributed to a culture of tax avoidance which survives until today. And it's not surprising that companies cottoned onto this'opportunity' as well. As for corporate tax - as with personal tax the headline rate has undoubtedly dropped. But alongside that we have seen increases in the so called 'stealth taxes.' Companies now face increased social costs i.e. NI and Pension contributions. Few would say tax is lower now than in the past. Anyway, politics thread for this pish? Corporate tax is definitely lower than in the past. The multi nationals still don't want to pay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Corporate tax is definitely lower than in the past. The multi nationals still don't want to pay. Hardly matters what the headline rate is-what most care about is the 'real' cost. I'd think. Unless you are one of those fooled by government spin on taxation? Not just one flavour of government either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Hardly matters what the headline rate is-what most care about is the 'real' cost. I'd think. Unless you are one of those fooled by government spin on taxation? Not just one flavour of government either. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Makes perfect sense as long as you assume the voters are cretins. Which governments tend to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 This chat isn't a reason to be cheerful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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