Bing.McCrosby Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: What exactly is Gemmill's remit? We don't get results, play decent football or improve any players at that level. I've been saying exactly this for years. The guy ticks zero boxes, doesn't win, plays shocking football. I cant imagine any technical players improving being played out of position either punting the ball or watching it fly over their heads. Or chasing it. Its absolute garbage. Him and stark have been getting away with it for years, and will continue to. Nobody (at the sfa) cares what they do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, BingMcCrosby said: I've been saying exactly this for years. The guy ticks zero boxes, doesn't win, plays shocking football. I cant imagine any technical players improving being played out of position either punting the ball or watching it fly over their heads. Or chasing it. Its absolute garbage. Him and stark have been getting away with it for years, and will continue to. Nobody (at the sfa) cares what they do. He's exactly like Billy Stark and Ricky Sbragia were 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Went along tonight to cross Tynecastle off more than anything but what a painfully drab affair. Most of our limitations have been covered already but I thought Lewis Mayo was especially rubbish. Constant aimless punts up the park under no pressure. Denmark absolutely strolled it in all honesty. Hardly broke sweat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) This month marks 5yrs in charge of U21s for him. His competitive record is pretty abject; bar 2 wins over Netherlands (sandwiching draw in Andorra). His home record... 5 wins from 15... being: Scotland 0-1 FYR Macedonia (Scotland finished 5th in group - Sbragia managed opening 3/5 of campaign) Scotland 0-0 Estonia Scotland 2-0 Netherlands Scotland 1-1 Latvia Scotland 0-2 Ukraine Scotland 3-0 Andorra Scotland 0-2 England (Scotland finished 4th in group) Scotland 2-0 San Marino Scotland 0-0 Lithuania Scotland 0-1 Greece Scotland 2-0 Czech Republic Scotland 2-2 Croatia (Scotland finished 3rd in group) Scotland 1-2 Northern Ireland Scotland 3-2 Northern Ireland Scotland 0-1 Denmark Edited October 7, 2021 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 It's hard to say if this group are as bad as folk are making out as last night's performance was painfully similar to previous ones under Gemmill, only instead of a big lump to punt the ball to, we had two small guys. Doig's now been poor every time I've seen him this season which isn't great. Hopefully it's just a blip. Ashby looked our best player - not massively influential but seemed better technically and physically than the rest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanbrush Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Binos said: Like Steve Clarke does too Steve Clarke's job is solely results driven though he has to find a way to win with the players he has so plays the way that best suits us to win games. Gemmil is following suit, when Gemills remit should be primarily developing players, and developing players in a manner that will allow our senior team to play a different style of football in the future, but he puts himself first by trying to elevate his own status by getting results which he fails at also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanbrush Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Les Cabbage said: Some of the Danish players had composure that we just couldn’t match. Agreed but all our most comfortable players on the ball started on the bench! Leonard came on and within minutes hit a couple of brilliant diagonals, he is comfortable in the middle of the park, good on the ball, Kai Kennedy and Scott Banks both on the bench two of our best technical players not playing to accommodate bigger lads like Burroughs and Williamson. Fiorini was well of it but not once did we actually try and play it through the Midfield and Gemmil had him stuck up front! He plays as a 10 for his club. Jack Stretton, a goalscorer, also kicking his heels on the bench as two midfielders play up front, ridiculous 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanbrush Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Shaun Maloney should be in charge of the 21s 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, tartanbrush said: Shaun Maloney should be in charge of the 21s Might be difficult to entice him away from the number 1 ranked national team in the world haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: That is stupid. There is no reason the U21s have to play the same formation as the big team. usually only 2 or 3 guys are good enough to step up to the full squad immediately. So if they aren't going to be involved for another couple of years the tactics might have massively changed. No long term planning ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, tartanbrush said: Steve Clarke's job is solely results driven though he has to find a way to win with the players he has so plays the way that best suits us to win games. Gemmil is following suit, when Gemills remit should be primarily developing players, and developing players in a manner that will allow our senior team to play a different style of football in the future, but he puts himself first by trying to elevate his own status by getting results which he fails at also. That's what gemmil stark and sbragia also thought they were doing Belgium as mentioned mandated same system through all levels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, AJF said: Might be difficult to entice him away from the number 1 ranked national team in the world haha. He might take it as a spring board to full job Also he may be missing pizza crunch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, accies1874 said: It's hard to say if this group are as bad as folk are making out as last night's performance was painfully similar to previous ones under Gemmill, only instead of a big lump to punt the ball to, we had two small guys. Doig's now been poor every time I've seen him this season which isn't great. Hopefully it's just a blip. Ashby looked our best player - not massively influential but seemed better technically and physically than the rest. Unfortunately regarding Doig he’s been similarly underwhelming domestically too, hopefully he turns it around soon. Although in fairness it didn’t help that pretty much every pass played to him was miles too far in front of him, should have done better with the goal tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Les Cabbage said: Unfortunately regarding Doig he’s been similarly underwhelming domestically too, hopefully he turns it around soon. Although in fairness it didn’t help that pretty much every pass played to him was miles too far in front of him, should have done better with the goal tho. Thought he should have been making runs he just wasn't making Looked on his heels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanbrush Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, Binos said: Thought he should have been making runs he just wasn't making Looked on his heels Agreed, only second time I've seen him but really don't know what all the fuss is about. Hickey should slot in at left back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Ewan8472 said: No long term planning ? Long term planning for what? Our best young player started 2 or 3 u21 games in total. The whole point of U21s for us is showing that our best young players can compete at the same level as some of the best youngsters in Europe. And hopefully get these players moved on to better clubs which will hopefully make them better players. Of course the people in charge often don't see it like that... SFA Performance Director Malky Mackay had advised Gilmour and his family that he should stay at Rangers, as he would have had more chance of gaining first team experience. Mackay said, "I really hope he goes out on loan quickly to someone and keeps progressing" All of the "long term planning" also presupposes that Steve Clarke has a real footballing philosophy other than playing the most effective team you can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 08/10/2021 at 16:43, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Long term planning for what? Our best young player started 2 or 3 u21 games in total. The whole point of U21s for us is showing that our best young players can compete at the same level as some of the best youngsters in Europe. And hopefully get these players moved on to better clubs which will hopefully make them better players. Of course the people in charge often don't see it like that... SFA Performance Director Malky Mackay had advised Gilmour and his family that he should stay at Rangers, as he would have had more chance of gaining first team experience. Mackay said, "I really hope he goes out on loan quickly to someone and keeps progressing" All of the "long term planning" also presupposes that Steve Clarke has a real footballing philosophy other than playing the most effective team you can. get them scoring goals !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 anyone got any inklings as to where the kazakhstan and belgium home games are to be played? just says "tbc" on the SFAs website,pretty poor with just over a month to go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 anyone got any inklings as to where the kazakhstan and belgium home games are to be played? just says "tbc" on the SFAs website,pretty poor with just over a month to goI'm sure they're confirmed for Tannadice. Weird if it isn't on their own website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, accies1874 said: 6 hours ago, highlandcowden said: anyone got any inklings as to where the kazakhstan and belgium home games are to be played? just says "tbc" on the SFAs website,pretty poor with just over a month to go I'm sure they're confirmed for Tannadice. Weird if it isn't on their own website. ta for that.i found the info a bit back in their news section,would be helpful if they put the details in their fixtures info though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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