the jambo-rocker Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Is anyone else a bit worried that the mainstream media could help swing this back the other way, now that panic mode has spread to the news agencies south of the border? I saw all the headlines today saying "10 days to save the union", "Britain in crisis" etc etc, and even the normally fair an impartial Channel 4 News are getting in on the act by reminding us all how good old England bailed out Scotland in 1707. As long as the polls have the vote being tight or even yes ahead, everyone who doesn't live under a rock will be bombarded from all angles with news about how close to disaster old Blighty is. I can't help but think that if anyone can effectively sway the opinions of the more weak minded members of our society, our media can. EGB = worried. I think that as others have said, anything that could threaten it worries me. I will say this however, I'd imagine that people would be less inclined to listen to someone from their ivory tower in a suit worth probably we make in a week telling us this, over someone you can relate to on the ground who is at least more directly taking your thoughts into consideration. This is for me, where BT have failed the most and their naivety in this area has arguably been one of the telling factors along with their ineptness and single minded perceptions of how they think the electorate think. Edited September 8, 2014 by the jambo-rocker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Really good point made above, if 20% (and I can't believe that btw) people still haven't made up their mind, which has been a consistent % of DK's for some time, yet the Yes share has greatly increased it can only mean one of two things: 1. No voters have switched to Yes or 2. DK voters have switched to Yes and a similar amount of No voters have switched to DK. Or am I being too simplistic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Really good point made above, if 20% (and I can't believe that btw) people still haven't made up their mind, which has been a consistent % of DK's for some time, yet the Yes share has greatly increased it can only mean one of two things: 1. No voters have switched to Yes or 2. DK voters have switched to Yes and a similar amount of No voters have switched to DK. Or am I being too simplistic? I know people who have switched from undecided to yes, no to undecided and no all the way to yes. Pretty much the entire spectrum, so it probably is a little simplistic. Still don't know anyone who has switched in the opposite direction, though. Which come to think of it is pretty bizarre. Still do know plenty of no's though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadénator Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) The surprising thing in that TNS poll for me is that more people in the Highlands are voting No than Yes. Edited September 8, 2014 by Tadénator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The surprising thing in that TNS poll for me is that more people in the Highlands are voting No than Yes. Yeah, that doesn't seem to add up to what I've seen. Then again, I haven't seen much other than the area around Inverness and Thurso. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The surprising thing in that TNS poll for me is that more people in the Highlands are voting No than Yes. Subdividing a sample of just over 1,000 will increase the margin for error. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The surprising thing in that TNS poll for me is that more people in the Highlands are voting No than Yes. A lot of postal votes, from the Isles, are apparently 50/50 if you believe what people are saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Butcher Cumberland still holds sway up there I reckon. Too soon? Edited September 8, 2014 by pandarilla 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Is anyone else a bit worried that the mainstream media could help swing this back the other way, now that panic mode has spread to the news agencies south of the border? I saw all the headlines today saying "10 days to save the union", "Britain in crisis" etc etc, and even the normally fair an impartial Channel 4 News are getting in on the act by reminding us all how good old England bailed out Scotland in 1707. As long as the polls have the vote being tight or even yes ahead, everyone who doesn't live under a rock will be bombarded from all angles with news about how close to disaster old Blighty is. I can't help but think that if anyone can effectively sway the opinions of the more weak minded members of our society, our media can. EGB = worried. ITV News coming out with the most shamelessly biased article on Scottish Independence I've seen to date. Scotland are fucking up the markets (no discussion over whether BT talking down Scotland's chance of having a stable future has affected the markets), Scotland won't keep the pound, Scotland would have loads of debt (not minding the contradiction of these two), BORDER CONTROLS!!!!!!! It's going to be a long 10 days. ETA: Yaas, here's Ponsonby to even things out. Bernard fucking loves a bit of Independence. Edited September 8, 2014 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The surprising thing in that TNS poll for me is that more people in the Highlands are voting No than Yes. The regional sub samples come with huge health warnings in terms of their statistical quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Aye, got to keep hitting the streets and talking to folk - sticking up posters and the like - BT has virtually no presence on the streets or around the schemes. Sep 18 is the only poll that counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 ITV News coming out with the most shamelessly biased article on Scottish Independence I've seen to date. Scotland are fucking up the markets (no discussion over whether BT talking down Scotland's chance of having a stable future has affected the markets), Scotland won't keep the pound, Scotland would have loads of debt (not minding the contradiction of these two), BORDER CONTROLS!!!!!!! It's going to be a long 10 days. ETA: Yaas, here's Ponsonby to even things out. Bernard fucking loves a bit of Independence. That's just grist to our mill though. Scots are thrawn and if it means taking some c**t down with you then so be it. We never started this fight, but we'll finish it. It could have all been avoided if Westminster hadn't acted like c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Kellner (YouGov) talks about the latest polls. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0269j6y "I am certain the shift to Yes is real, it's recent and it's big." Edited September 8, 2014 by Casual Bystander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Guy on Newsnight saying a poll embargoed from official release until midnight He has seen the result and confirms that it will show that things have changed. Another goosebump moment hopefully. IT IS HAPPENING! Edited September 8, 2014 by G-MAN 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guy on Newsnight saying a poll embargoed from official release until midnight He has seen the result and confirms that it will show that things have changed. Another goosebump moment hopefully. IT IS HAPPENING! We have been talking about it all night. I do hope nobody gets in trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Keeping talking to the soft no types and the undecideds,keep chapping the doors and handing out leaflets,now is the time to work harder 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 We have been talking about it all night. I do hope nobody gets in trouble. Are you sure those figures are correct ? The link given a couple of pages back has now been taken down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Daily politics have tweeted the same results. Dunlomin (name?) posted a link the PDF. The figures are right; 38/39/23 (y/n/u) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Are you sure those figures are correct ? The link given a couple of pages back has now been taken down. Yeah, read through all the data sets. It's a real enough poll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) I just had a trawl through Twitter and lot of tweets in the last 10 mins along the lines of "if no one else is respecting the midnight curfew then either am I" then posting 41/41/18, so a tie when DK's are excluded. Edited September 8, 2014 by Ando 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.