renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looking at data tables for Ipsos: IN terms of age groups, yes tanking No up to 55+ age bracket. In terms of employment status: +6 full time working, +3 part time working, +11 not working and -17 retired. In terms of working sector +2 in private sector and +14 in public sector. In terms of nat id Scot/more scot than brit/equal/more brit than scot/ brit it goes:+70/+28/-43/-51/-78. Ipsos also confirms that lower income households more likely to vote yes and that while Yes has a 1 point lead in urban areas it gets slaughtered in rural areas by a good 14 points. Folk renting, either private or council much more likely to vote yes than home owners, though one thing that did surprise me is that folk with children in their households are more likely to vote yes than those without. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looking at data tables for Ipsos: IN terms of age groups, yes tanking No up to 55+ age bracket. In terms of employment status: +6 full time working, +3 part time working, +11 not working and -17 retired. In terms of working sector +2 in private sector and +14 in public sector. In terms of nat id Scot/more scot than brit/equal/more brit than scot/ brit it goes:+70/+28/-43/-51/-78. Ipsos also confirms that lower income households more likely to vote yes and that while Yes has a 1 point lead in urban areas it gets slaughtered in rural areas by a good 14 points. Folk renting, either private or council much more likely to vote yes than home owners, though one thing that did surprise me is that folk with children in their households are more likely to vote yes than those without. So its the selfish oldies that could ruin it for the future 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redvine Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm hoping the yougov poll isn't something dramatically different. Not that it's likely to affect many people at this late stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm hoping the yougov poll isn't something dramatically different. Not that it's likely to affect many people at this late stage. As NWA once said, f**k the polls. We've got this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm hoping the yougov poll isn't something dramatically different. Not that it's likely to affect many people at this late stage. Yeah, hoping it stays in the same ball park. have heard only the sketchiest of rumours about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 So its the selfish oldies that could ruin it for the future To be fair, a lot of them will worry about their private pensions I'd think, and while yes does make a strong case for those remaining intact, oldies don't have the luxury of time to get over it, if there are setbacks. Take me for example, I'm demographically the prototype No voter: Both me and my fiance work in reaosnably well paid jobs, have a mortgage but no kids. I'm voting yes for a whole host of reasons but accepting of the fact that I personally may take a kicking financially in the short term - thing is, barring accidents or my superb diet, I've got time on my side. Old folk don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Was chatting to couple of labour mates of mine, both voting yes, one of them is quite active in trade union. He said that some labour members he know are telling polling companies that they are voting no, but are really voting yes. Reason being is that they dont want preference on polling database if it all goes wrong. Polling companies stating c. 40% labour voting aye.. I think its much higher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 To be fair, a lot of them will worry about their private pensions I'd think, and while yes does make a strong case for those remaining intact, oldies don't have the luxury of time to get over it, if there are setbacks. Take me for example, I'm demographically the prototype No voter: Both me and my fiance work in reaosnably well paid jobs, have a mortgage but no kids. I'm voting yes for a whole host of reasons but accepting of the fact that I personally may take a kicking financially in the short term - thing is, barring accidents or my superb diet, I've got time on my side. Old folk don't. What I don't get about these selfish old folk is they're putting their own interests above those of their grandkids. I can't get with that level of selfishness. Personally, I'm similar to Renton. I have a job, a pension, a mortgage, a wife and 2 kids. I don't stand to gain personally from a Yes vote, but I'm not voting for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 When is the yougov one out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 When is the yougov one out? 2200 hours, zulu time. 10 pm basically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 What I don't get about these selfish old folk is they're putting their own interests above those of their grandkids. I can't get with that level of selfishness. Personally, I'm similar to Renton. I have a job, a pension, a mortgage, a wife and 2 kids. I don't stand to gain personally from a Yes vote, but I'm not voting for me. Not much use to their grandkids if they're broke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 What I don't get about these selfish old folk is they're putting their own interests above those of their grandkids. I can't get with that level of selfishness. Personally, I'm similar to Renton. I have a job, a pension, a mortgage, a wife and 2 kids. I don't stand to gain personally from a Yes vote, but I'm not voting for me. They'd no doubt argue that they're stopping their children and grandchildren making a huge mistake. I massively disagree with them - but its a fair point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowden0 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Still get pished but might take a wee couple of hours to get rid of my anger lol Edit this was a text to a friend regarding Friday. How it ended up here is mystery Edited September 17, 2014 by cowden0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yougov are polling tomorrow afternoon, asking you complete it only once you have voted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yougov are polling tomorrow afternoon, asking you complete it only once you have voted. Not really a proper exit poll 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 2200 hours, zulu time. 10 pm basically. Thousands of them. Couldn't resist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The economic consequences either way are going to be marginal, even on the worst forecasts of Yes and No campaigners. I think my biggest reason for voting Yes is just the adventure of trying to create a new nation that works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The economic consequences either way are going to be marginal, even on the worst forecasts of Yes and No campaigners. I think my biggest reason for voting Yes is just the adventure of trying to create a new nation that works. This. I reckon the economic issues are greatly overstated. At worst we'll be marginally worse off, at best we'll be marginally better off. But at least we'll have a more democratic and representative government and a country with a huge potential for the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Near 100% of yes will vote. Not sure that is the same for No.. But heh, im just hopeful I hope you're right about the Yes vote. I do have some concerns regarding the 'wobble' that's been mentioned on a few occasions. I think of myself as a solid Yes voter but I would be lying if I said that I haven't had my doubts at times when considering the monumental decision that we are all about to take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Same as you both renton/confi. Mortgage, car, pension, shares and savings. And a seven month wee boy. Loads to lose if the prophets of doom are right. Archetypal lower middle class Tory in many ways. But I'm not. This chance we have is far, far too important to Chuck away. Labour have been disgraceful. Utterly without merit. I'm preparing for a few hard times for a while post yes. Maybe higher taxes, maybe not. But five or ten years down the line i think we'll see it was the best thing we ever did. Keep the faith lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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