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38 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

Safe standing also in the away end. Spurs have installed it with the foresight that the laws will be changed, very wise move. 

I take it that the seats will be locked in place until the law changes meaning that fans will just stand in front of the seat as they do now as it'll be illegal to  have the 'safe standing' activated. Yep, that makes total sense...

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20 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

'Safe standing' :lol:

Why are folk not questioning this bullshit?

Only mugs think it's anything other than a different seat design. Probably romanticised by people who have never stood on terracing in their life.

However, good luck to the stadium companies that are able to flog it to them.

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3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
32 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:
'Safe standing' emoji38.png
Why are folk not questioning this bullshit?

In regards to...?

The need for 'safe standing'. Just have terracing. They're perfectly fine and only unsafe if you breach the capacity and have shite design that isn't maintained.

If you tried to force 5000 folk in to a stand that held only 2000 you'd have serious problems.

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Why is standing 'unsafe'?

Never understood the term 'safe standing'.

Exactly this. The whole thing is a con. Hundreds of thousands of people stand on terracing each week without incident.

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In regards to...?


I think it must be the implication that previous versions were “unsafe standing” that must be irritating him

Possibly there would be less annoyance if they called it “Safer Standing” or “Standing but with the, admittedly, very low previous risk factor minimised a bit further”

(or SBEAVLPRFMABF as the cool kids would no doubt call it)
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11 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


I think it must be the implication that previous versions were “unsafe standing” that must be irritating him

Possibly there would be less annoyance if they called it “Safer Standing” or “Standing but with the, admittedly, very low previous risk factor minimised a bit further”

(or SBEAVLPRFMABF as the cool kids would no doubt call it)

 

Or just call it what it is, a seat.

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13 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Everrthing about safe standing is framed in relation to the EPL. No surprise that they have to do something about the "optics" of it given that the entire league is built.on appearances.

What would the Falkirk fans get up to if you were allowed to stand Bairny ... ? 

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10 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
12 minutes ago, Rab B Nesbit said:
What would the Falkirk fans get up to if you were allowed to stand Bairny ... ? 

Have you ever tried launching mock body parts sitting down?

No I’ve not ... tough ? 

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I don't have a huge issue with "safe standing" in this case as it's clearly designed so that the seats can be brought back for European games (and I guess they could be a neutral venue for Internationals as the Emirates et al have been, or part of a World Cup bid) where there is still an all seated rule. It could probably just be called removable seating or something to stop annoying people who don't like the term I guess. Where the term "safe standing" is totally inappropriate is when folk talking about developing or building new grounds in Scotland where their club is unlikely to need 10,000 odd seats (ourselves, Falkirk, etc).

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The only safety advantage seating has over standing is that everyone has an allocated place, so overcrowding is much less likely to ever happen unless there is widespread disregard for the allocations (as in parts of Hampden recently for Scotland v Poland). Even at Hillsborough, even with all the other f**k ups that caused the disaster, if the tickets for the Leppings Lane end had specified which of the five pens the ticket was for, and there was clear signage from the turnstiles, it's very unlikely the crush would have happened.

Or, better still, there hadn't been any pens and the crowd could just disperse sideways, or over the front wall in an emergency.

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It's the current trend of using  safe/safety to try and quell any dissent at source when trying to hide the real reason of the purpose. The actual name of rail seating is just fine.

 

“rail seating” is an even more problematic name

 

Can it be “seating” when you can’t sit on it?

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