nevada Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Not often the bookies are wrong 1/5 it will be no, be a brave man to throw your cash away voting yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Not often the bookies are wrong 1/5 it will be no, be a brave man to throw your cash away voting yes! The bookies will just be going by recent polls they have seen though. Not taking in how each campaigns moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The bookies will just be going by recent polls they have seen though. Not taking in how each campaigns moving forward. They are going on probability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 They are going on probability. Seeing as how there are so many undecided voters and the polls are shifting all the time, the only thing they can possibly be going on is current polls as they stand now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The fact that you think it's all about Salmond just shows how very little you know. And, imo, it's the No campaign who have peaked. After the spectacular mis-fire of Gideon's threatening speech, they have nothing left but scare tactics. such as Alistair Darling's latest disgusting threat, telling Scottish voluntary organisations that they won't get lottery funding in an independent Scotland. No voters offer NO reasons why it's better together, yet the Yes camp have given a plethora of reasons why Independence will be the better option. No have nothing left. Their tank is empty. Watch the polls continue to narrow. I cannot wait. Not sure anyone should have been surprised by Osbourne's speech and the tone of it, not sure it has made much difference, just a debating point We will wait and see, it is all about opinion's, it is obvious we will never agree on this, just because Yes Scotland give reasons why independence will work, does not mean it will be the better option, my final word of caution to all, don't get drawn into the "romantic notion" of being an independent nation, vote with your head not with your heart You need to stop winking at me, are you coming on to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Not sure anyone should have been surprised by Osbourne's speech and the tone of it, not sure it has made much difference, just a debating point We will wait and see, it is all about opinion's, it is obvious we will never agree on this, just because Yes Scotland give reasons why independence will work, does not mean it will be the better option, my final word of caution to all, don't get drawn into the "romantic notion" of being an independent nation, vote with your head not with your heart People are talking about Osborne's speech because it was designed to be a gamechanger. It failed spectacularly. So why don't the No campaigners give reasons the same as the Yes camp give reasons why independence will benefit us all? Don't you find that a little iffy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Seeing as how there are so many undecided voters and the polls are shifting all the time, the only thing they can possibly be going on is current polls as they stand now. No, they are going on the probability of there being a Yes and No vote. The polls may inform this. As has been the case from the start, when the market was framed, the probability of a No vote vastly exceeds the probability of a Yes vote. And however much the polls are "shifting" they still show No as much the likeliest side to win, and with a large lead. Only this week the TNS poll showed Yes with just 29% of the vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 People are talking about Osborne's speech because it was designed to be a gamechanger. It failed spectacularly. So why don't the No campaigners give reasons the same as the Yes camp give reasons why independence will benefit us all? Don't you find that a little iffy? Not sure it was meant to be a "game changer" think it was more intended for the population of the rest of the UK and what they thought of an independent Scotland, keeping the pound. The SNP and Yes Scotland campaign have pretty much campaigning since the last Holyrood elections, would expect the Better Together to start "putting meat on the bones" of their campaign in the coming weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The problem for Yes is that the SNP thinks Yes Scotland is a bad joke. Which is why they have withheld their funding and decided to go it alone with their advertising campaign. It was always a dodgy strategy. Creating an arms length organisation has backfired, and it has been partly the reason why the Nationalists are floundering so badly in this campaign, and are so far behind at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 No, they are going on the probability of there being a Yes and No vote. The polls may inform this. As has been the case from the start, when the market was framed, the probability of a No vote vastly exceeds the probability of a Yes vote. And however much the polls are "shifting" they still show No as much the likeliest side to win, and with a large lead. Only this week the TNS poll showed Yes with just 29% of the vote Yeah and that was the only poll which came out wasn't it? You're really struggling these days, HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yeah and that was the only poll which came out wasn't it? You're really struggling these days, HB. You said they were going on "recent polls" to determine odds. That's a recent poll by a respected pollster with a long history of polling in the campaign. It shws Yes at < 30%. As I said, the probability of a No vote is exceptionally high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The problem for Yes is that the SNP thinks Yes Scotland is a bad joke. Which is why they have withheld their funding and decided to go it alone with their advertising campaign. It was always a dodgy strategy. Creating an arms length organisation has backfired, and it has been partly the reason why the Nationalists are floundering so badly in this campaign, and are so far behind at this stage. Does appear to be no cohesion between the SNP and Yes Scotland, thought the point was that Yes Scotland were meant to be the front for the campaign What was strange for me from the SNP was that one of their main strengths the "big 3", Salmond, Sturgeon and Swinney, have not been as polished lately and the "subs" are not as engaging or passionate, so what you are left with is the notion that apart from the "big 3", there is very little The bloke who leads the Yes Scotland, Blair Jenkins I think his name is, he does not inspire any kind of confidence and does not have the appeal of the "big 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 If all the unionists actually believe that YES is anywhere near below 30% then good on them I say. The worse they think we are doing the better it is for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 If all the unionists actually believe that YES is anywhere near below 30% then good on them I say. The worse they think we are doing the better it is for us. No me think Yes Scotland is probably polling between 35% to 38%, so I think Better Together are well aware of the polls and they will be doing their own polling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 No me think Yes Scotland is probably polling between 35% to 38%, so I think Better Together are well aware of the polls and they will be doing their own polling BT dont matter. It's complacent no voters that are the good thing. The more "29 % figures banded about the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 ^^^ my mum did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 ^^^ my mum did If your mum listened to any of your banal drivel, she's even dafter than you. Although, going by your past form on here, I would suspect your mum did no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 It's deeply insulting that you'd think I'd even begin to believe you Huh? My mother is a reformed Nationalist.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Huh? My mother is a reformed Nationalist.... Basically, you speak shite, nobody believes anything that comes out yer mouth, nothing you now say on these forums is taken seriously because, you are a fud. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Basically, you speak shite, nobody believes anything that comes out yer mouth, nothing you now say on these forums is taken seriously because, you are a fud. Hope this helps. What he said. Mr Bairn - P&B's very own boy who cried wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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