kingjoey Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, resk said: This is when he didn't sign an extension to his contract at a club that was likely to be relegated, then let his contract expire, then signed for another club? I never quite got why that was considered so controversial TBH, seems pretty normal. It wasn’t quite like that. His contract expired in June and the club asked him to sign, like loads of other players in England did, a short term extension to the end of the elongated season and then he would still have been free to find another club. But he didn’t want to in case he got injured, which could happen at any time anyway. He then made things a lot worse after Bournemouth had been relegated by saying that if had stayed with the club to the end of the actual season, he would have kept them up. Good luck to him if he ever has to play in Bournemouth again in front of fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, kingjoey said: It wasn’t quite like that. His contract expired in June and the club asked him to sign, like loads of other players in England did, a short term extension to the end of the elongated season and then he would still have been free to find another club. But he didn’t want to in case he got injured, which could happen at any time anyway. He then made things a lot worse after Bournemouth had been relegated by saying that if had stayed with the club to the end of the actual season, he would have kept them up. Good luck to him if he ever has to play in Bournemouth again in front of fans. Just found the quote I guess you are referring to. "I think I would have helped massively" or something of that ilk. Quickly spun into "I would have kept them up" (apologies if there is an actual "I would have kept them up" quote that I have missed, I just did a quick search). Yeah, I understand the contract extension thing... seems to be that every other player whose contract expired in June signed an extension, so he must too? I kinda get your point, and it seems to be the prevailing opinion, but I pretty much disagree. He did the work he was contracted to do for his employer, declined an extension, then moved on to a new employer. All the rest of it just seems to be standard issue fitba fans working themselves up in to a rage for no real reason, and projecting a higher standard of behaviour on to fitba players because .... well I don't actually know why... they're highly paid? They're in the public eye? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep62 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, kingjoey said: Ernie Winchester was the first Dons scapegoat that I can remember. I mind Davie "The Brush" Robb used to get it large in the early to mid seventies from the support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 hours ago, resk said: Just found the quote I guess you are referring to. "I think I would have helped massively" or something of that ilk. Quickly spun into "I would have kept them up" (apologies if there is an actual "I would have kept them up" quote that I have missed, I just did a quick search). Yeah, I understand the contract extension thing... seems to be that every other player whose contract expired in June signed an extension, so he must too? I kinda get your point, and it seems to be the prevailing opinion, but I pretty much disagree. He did the work he was contracted to do for his employer, declined an extension, then moved on to a new employer. All the rest of it just seems to be standard issue fitba fans working themselves up in to a rage for no real reason, and projecting a higher standard of behaviour on to fitba players because .... well I don't actually know why... they're highly paid? They're in the public eye? I apologise if you are a relation or friend of Ryan, but you’re really going out of your way to defend him. I suppose the simplistic way to look at it is that, again by his own admission, he was one of the reasons and part of the team that got Bournemouth into the situation that they were in, which was not irretrievable. So he should have signed the extension to try to help them out. When he signed his original contract it was supposed to be to the end of season 2019/20, so in my mind he certainly left Bournemouth in the shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don exotic Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I just realised that I can watch the st Mirren match, as my premier sports month of subscription from the semifinal doesn’t stop until 1/12/20. Saturday November 28 St Mirren v Aberdeen – Live on Premier Sports, ko 5.15pm Sunday November 29 Celtic v Ross County – Live on Premier Sports, ko 2.00pm Falkirk v Sevco – Live on Premier Sports, ko 5.00pm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don exotic Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Maybe we should avoid games being on premier sport. This is a shocker. Ojo and Campbell are doing better at breaking down our play than St Mirrens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don exotic Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I don’t think Ojo or Campbell passed the ball forwards for that entire game. The drop off having the two of them in the centre was stark. We could probably get away with one of them alongside Ferguson, Mccorie or Mcgeoch, but together they are a painful watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 McInnes is clueless at trying to change tactics during a game, or even before when he can’t have his preferred 11.Not the sign of a good manager IMHO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Don exotic said: I don’t think Ojo or Campbell passed the ball forwards for that entire game. The drop off having the two of them in the centre was stark. We could probably get away with one of them alongside Ferguson, Mccorie or Mcgeoch, but together they are a painful watch. They are too similar. One of them needed to be making a dart forward but they were both happy to sit back. I'm a big fan of Campbell. there's a real talent there but he'll be playing Championship football in January if he doesn't step up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 He’ll have lost a fair chunk of support this week Sadly probably have to include myself in that Could overlook the Sevco score but the team have been woeful against successive games against Hamilton & St Mirren He’s not going anywhere soon but it is time for someone else to have a go -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 He's a good but not great manager. We can't really justify sacking him, but he's also not going to be attracting any significant offers from bigger clubs in the near future. It's been this way for a while now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 We'll never win another game with the players we had out today. The midfield is a disaster. Ojo and Leigh nowhere near good enough, and Campbell has to step up, play 20 yards further forward, and learn how to stamp his authority on a match or he'd be as well fucking off to Arbroath or Ayr to learn how to play the game. Their inability to inject forward momentum into the game means that Hedges drops deep with his back to goal to try and become available for a pass. 10 seconds later the ball's lost and the opposition is on the attack. Kennedy and Hayes don't look match fit, and playing Main and Cosgrove together just isn't working. It all means that the ball comes back quickly to a defence that is creaking at the seams. I'm not sure what we can do about it, other hope that injuries clear up quickly and that we can get our SFA/covid players back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: He’ll have lost a fair chunk of support this week Sadly probably have to include myself in that Could overlook the Sevco score but the team have been woeful against successive games against Hamilton & St Mirren He’s not going anywhere soon but it is time for someone else to have a go Were you saying or thinking anywhere along these lines 7 days ago when we had been playing great stuff with our strongest team, and the squad and tactics put together by this manager? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: Were you saying or thinking anywhere along these lines 7 days ago when we had been playing great stuff with our strongest team, and the squad and tactics put together by this manager? Joey, looking at the team sheets is there any players from either the Hamilton or St Mirren team you'd have taken at Aberdeen before the game? Cammy MacPherson maybe? That's about it. Just because we're missing several players is no excuse for the absolute lack of fight shown by that team in the past three games. The manager has signed every single one of those players to a contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Were you saying or thinking anywhere along these lines 7 days ago when we had been playing great stuff with our strongest team, and the squad and tactics put together by this manager? Joey, I know you’re President of the McInnes fan club but the 18 months prior to that have been pathetic Anyone could see that a mile off today, so predictable and shite Dozen of awful signings over the last couple of years, so much money wasted and we have nothing to show for it I’m not a seething, relentless anti-McInnes bore but he’s been here almost 8 years We need a fresh pair of eyes Defending him to the death no matter what is genuinely bewildering to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Joey, I know you’re President of the McInnes fan club but the 18 months prior to that have been pathetic Anyone could see that a mile off today, so predictable and shite Dozen of awful signings over the last couple of years, so much money wasted and we have nothing to show for it I’m not a seething, relentless anti-McInnes bore but he’s been here almost 8 years We need a fresh pair of eyes Defending him to the death no matter what is genuinely bewildering to me What is predictable and shite is the reaction to the result tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: They are too similar. One of them needed to be making a dart forward but they were both happy to sit back. I'm a big fan of Campbell. there's a real talent there but he'll be playing Championship football in January if he doesn't step up. Both way too deep, which is especially problematic if you're already playing with three centre-backs and they're practically sitting on top of them. Neither really willing to engage in a battle further up the park, like Ferguson and McCrorie would do. I suppose they are squad players for a reason, but you also need your squad players to be able to step in and step up on weeks like this, and both have unfortunately been found wanting (along with others). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Raidernation said: McInnes is clueless at trying to change tactics during a game, or even before when he can’t have his preferred 11. Not the sign of a good manager IMHO I think McInnes has done a good job with Aberdeen qualifying every season for Europe. I wished he could have won another trophy but Celtic had a monopoly on that recently. Aberdeen can't afford to sack him but I think he will leave once his contact is up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Joey, I know you’re President of the McInnes fan club but the 18 months prior to that have been pathetic Anyone could see that a mile off today, so predictable and shite Dozen of awful signings over the last couple of years, so much money wasted and we have nothing to show for it I’m not a seething, relentless anti-McInnes bore but he’s been here almost 8 years We need a fresh pair of eyes Defending him to the death no matter what is genuinely bewildering to me What do you make of the football until last week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, betting competition said: I think McInnes has done a good job with Aberdeen qualifying every season for Europe. I wished he could have won another trophy but Celtic had a monopoly on that recently. Aberdeen can't afford to sack him but I think he will leave once his contact is up That some way away though. We'll have had the resurgence by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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