coprolite Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, gudge1903 said: What's the offence? The thousands singing terrorist songs or the granny whos from the dark ages the away fans are idolising about wiping sleep from her eyes? We should sign up Shay Logan again on a free just to watch the green wannabe Irish or Weedgies show their true colours over and over. Every bit as vile and conflicted as their blue brethren. Both Please no whataboutery here. What she's done there doesn't look as bad as i'd feared. I had visions of her leaning over the hoardings doing a taunt. But she is in the stadium, with many other people and cameras and being visibly racist. No fucking about. Get her banned. Maybe a temporary one should suffice? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Not saying she shouldn't be banned, but sectarianism and racism are one of the same and tens of thousands can sing anything with impunity week after week, decade after decade because it's a great (so called) atmosphere. Ban them also Ban her but what happens to the thousands of others every week? Nothing... Same nonsense with Kamara through the week, obviously racist but when Celtic fans boo a black Aberdeen player every game for years after calling out their players and clubs racism it's all just fun cos their Weedgies.... Would be nice to play by same rules both on and off the park one day but I won't hold my breath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, gudge1903 said: Not saying she shouldn't be banned, but sectarianism and racism are one of the same and tens of thousands can sing anything with impunity week after week, decade after decade because it's a great (so called) atmosphere. Ban them also Ban her but what happens to the thousands of others every week? Nothing... Same nonsense with Kamara through the week, obviously racist but when Celtic fans boo a black Aberdeen player every game for years after calling out their players and clubs racism it's all just fun cos their Weedgies.... Would be nice to play by same rules both on and off the park one day but I won't hold my breath. If we want to be the bigger party here then we need to take control of our own house and take it on the chin that one of our own support let herself down. Going straight to the sectarian argument is never a good look here. Leave it for another day. This is our problem that we should own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Can't call out one without the thousands of away fans in shot or on mic/audio getting called out for the same or worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I think it's a bit much to try to infer racism from that without at least investigating it a bit further. She's not made the gesture to anyone, she's talking to her pal - they could even be having a conversation about what happened to him previously and she could be saying "The Rangers fans on the bus did this gesture" or whatever. Definitely worth investigating, but I'm uncomfortable with picking out incidents like this with absolutely no context where a person is just sitting in the stand doing something. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Always leave the poor wee Weedgies with their sectarianism for another day that never comes. Give them another greatest fans in world medal why don't you? Wonder why it's so acceptable? Strange wee country with folk with wee minds. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, gudge1903 said: Always leave the poor wee Weedgies with their sectarianism for another day that never comes. Give them another greatest fans in world medal why don't you? Wonder why it's so acceptable? Strange wee country with folk with wee minds. Have a good day, fella. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hardly talking to her pal. A kid says ‘Kyogo scored’ and she pulls out a racist gesture. Really isn’t more to it than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Yep, and clearly thousands of the green filth being quite accomodating to anyone who doesn't share their views on religion and Irish politics. Why are they both not being called out? Haven't heard a mention in media about the hour plus long singalong. Strange narrative to take. Nothing to see here. (Doubt the wifies case would get to court on that evidence, on the other hand thousands repeatly singing, chanting and howling sectarianism as a collective and as individuals in an organised manner....hmmm) Swap blue and green Weedgies for skinheads or terrorist religous preachers and their offences are one of the same. Spread terror, hatred and violence politically and religiously. Great for fitba all this weedgie banter. A wee look in the mirror would do some good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I think it's a bit much to try to infer racism from that without at least investigating it a bit further. She's not made the gesture to anyone, she's talking to her pal - they could even be having a conversation about what happened to him previously and she could be saying "The Rangers fans on the bus did this gesture" or whatever. Definitely worth investigating, but I'm uncomfortable with picking out incidents like this with absolutely no context where a person is just sitting in the stand doing something. I totally agree. When I heard about it initially I had visions of an old dear standing up and doing that movement directly towards Kyogo. But she's talking to her pal and could be saying anything. Worth an investigation though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Further investigation of that video definitely required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: I think it's a bit much to try to infer racism from that without at least investigating it a bit further. She's not made the gesture to anyone, she's talking to her pal - they could even be having a conversation about what happened to him previously and she could be saying "The Rangers fans on the bus did this gesture" or whatever. Definitely worth investigating, but I'm uncomfortable with picking out incidents like this with absolutely no context where a person is just sitting in the stand doing something. Fair point. Give her a chance to explain herself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Nothing will happen due to what's obviously going on in background. Can't see the soundtrack being played or videos of the majority of Celtic fans to point out one old wifie in foreground from a bad angle whose lawyer will infer itchy/teary eyes or something else whether true or not. You all "think" she's racist with a large volume of probability but you all "know" what the away fans done and sung and that's not up for debate and will be left to fester again. She'd may apologise for her behaviour even if she doesn't mean it, do you think the away fans will? Or be backed up by their club, national press and national media? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Aberdeen fan though, to be fair. She'd probably just heard Aneka, The vapors and Alphaville for the first time on her transistor wireless. Maybe just caught up in the craze. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Bartender Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: The bigger question is why she needs two pairs of specs when 'none' is a better option this season. It's Pittodrie. One pair rose-tinted lenses, one pair opaque glass. @craigkillie nailed it as a sensible response to the real issue. Due process and appropriate action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 As with recent video “evidence “ do we suspect this to have been “modified to create an issue” that didn’t actually happen?[emoji1787]I relalise it’s a serious issue but the above is the take we’d get from either cheek (and the MSM most probably) were it them!I agree it needs investigated then appropriately dealt with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Raidernation said: As with recent video “evidence “ do we suspect this to have been “modified to create an issue” that didn’t actually happen? I relalise it’s a serious issue but the above is the take we’d get from either cheek (and the MSM most probably) were it them! I agree it needs investigated then appropriately dealt with Aye, you're right. When the videos of Rangers fans racially abusing Kyogo surfaced the club suggested the footage was modified (wait, they never, they banned both individuals identified and removed the supporters bus ticket privileges) and the media swept it under the carpet (they never, it was headline news for an extended period). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, AJF said: Aye, you're right. When the videos of Rangers fans racially abusing Kyogo surfaced the club suggested the footage was modified (wait, they never, they banned both individuals identified and removed the supporters bus ticket privileges) and the media swept it under the carpet (they never, it was headline news for an extended period). You're comparing apples with oranges here, you plonker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: You're comparing apples with oranges here, you plonker. I’m not really comparing the incidents though, I’m more contesting the assumption that it would get swept under the carpet if it were Rangers fans. The unfortunate commonality is that the same player appears to have suffered racial abuse - but I’m not trying to equate the Aberdeen fans actions with the Rangers fans actions, if that’s what you mean. Edited October 6, 2021 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, AJF said: I’m not really comparing the incidents though, I’m more contesting the assumption that it would get swept under the carpet if it were Rangers fans. The unfortunate commonality is that the same player appears to have suffered racial abuse - but I’m not trying to equate the Aberdeen fans actions with the Rangers fans actions, if that’s what you mean. That's certainly the way it came across. And it was "fan" not "fans". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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