The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Leith Green]

9 hours ago, lubo_blaha said:

No point in hounding a guy out a few months into the job.

 Ron says "hold my beer"

[Dons_1988]

35 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

What he's done before is of no concern to me.

Derek McInnes was a bottom half manager before he turned us around.

Aye it’s not a valid argument. There is concerns about the lack of improvement since he came in but I’m looking forward to seeing what we do over the summer. 

I think he came in and thought he’d make us more solid and pick up points that way but probably even he has been shocked at just how soft a centre we have. Defensively  we’ve let ourselves down time and again and it’s made it impossible to build any momentum.

Im pretty optimistic we’ll be significantly better next season. 

[DukDukGoose]

11 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Aye it’s not a valid argument. There is concerns about the lack of improvement since he came in but I’m looking forward to seeing what we do over the summer. 

I think he came in and thought he’d make us more solid and pick up points that way but probably even he has been shocked at just how soft a centre we have. Defensively  we’ve let ourselves down time and again and it’s made it impossible to build any momentum.

Im pretty optimistic we’ll be significantly better next season. 

Absolutely.

The club is in a decent state off the field. This isn't McGhee coming in to fix the mess Calderwood had left behind on a shoe string etc.

Goodwin will be very well backed. By the sounds of things he's delighted with the recruitment team we have. He deserves a chance.

[Kempes]

Goodwin will sign better, and more reliable, players than those heading out of the club. He managed to bring some excellent players to St Mirren on a much smaller budget. Dons fans might not agree, but players like McGrath, Ronan, McCarthy, Gogic and dare I say big Joe, would have made them a better team. Goodwin will be aware of players in England, Ireland and further afield who will now be within his budget and he won’t be signing guys who are happy to sit on the bench earning good money. Given time, he’ll probably prove to be a success, in relative terms. Grab the cash on offer from Liverpool and let Jim replace the serial under-achievers with ‘winners’. Hope you lose on Sunday though….

[SamuraiJock]

As horrible as the last part of the season has been to watch, is it possible a complete collapse was what we needed to get a proper squad clear out going? We've been saying all year how shite half the squad is, and Goodwin has come in and quickly realised as much and told them all to piss off. I'm sure he thought we'd still have enough to battle through respectably to the end of the season, but just because a bunch of players have downed tools doesn't mean it was the wrong thing to do.

If this squad had got a new manager bounce and finished well the rest of the season, then maybe we'd be holding on to more of them for next season and have to go through it all over again?

[Dons_1988]

53 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Absolutely.

The club is in a decent state off the field. This isn't McGhee coming in to fix the mess Calderwood had left behind on a shoe string etc.

Goodwin will be very well backed. By the sounds of things he's delighted with the recruitment team we have. He deserves a chance.

Aye, if there was anything good to come from the cormack interview with Graham hunter it’s that our recruitment seems like a proper operation now. if Darren Mowbray is good at his job and Gunn has learned the lessons of previous windows then we’re in a good position to recruit well. 

One window won’t solve everything but if we can fix the core of the team and then start actually building something from January onwards then I think we’ll be fine. It’s a huge job in the next months though. 

[Illgresi]

The important thing to remember about recruitment is that while Goodwin will have the final say, there is a new recruitment department/process in place. So it won't be entirely up to Goodwin to find and bring players in.

The first proper example of this new dept. is Besuijen, who definitely looks a good signing. They are really going to be tested this summer though, as this squad is absolutely bereft of confidence and leadership. Assuming Ramsay and Ferguson are sold, we will need first choice (by that I mean good enough to be first choice in Hearts team):

RB
CB x2
CM
LW

...just to make us competitive. Questions also remain over Lewis' future, whether Ramirez will return, and we also have to be careful not to place too much reliance on Barron, Besuijen, and MacKenzie, as they are but young loons.

Lots of work to be done.

[Rodhull]

14 hours ago, lubo_blaha said:

In case anyone is wanting to do a “where are they now” on our 15/16 squad:
 

 

I remember the camera panning to the Dons bench after Maddison’s free kick against them and he was sitting there looking gutted.

 

Ha I'd never noticed that before, just watched the goal again and looking at him and Alexander on the bench you wouldn't even know a goal had been scored.

[Rodhull]

 

 

 

[coprolite]

How's this going? 

The Club is aiming to inspire fans with an exciting brand of football that has its roots in homegrown talent. The philosophy sets out how the Club will strive to produce winning performances that get supporters up off their feet, with intensity and pace. Adopting many of the principles which have brought the Club successes over the years, the philosophy is about creating a recognisable style of play that is firmly centred around the development of homegrown talent.

[HunterAFC]

15 minutes ago, coprolite said:

The philosophy is about creating a recognisable style of play that is firmly centred around the development of homegrown talent.

We've definitely seen it this season, just a shame the recognisable style is possession for possession's sake, an incredibly soft center and inability to keep a clean sheet.

[resk]

1 hour ago, coprolite said:

How's this going? 

The Club is aiming to inspire fans with an exciting brand of football that has its roots in homegrown talent. The philosophy sets out how the Club will strive to produce winning performances that get supporters up off their feet, with intensity and pace. Adopting many of the principles which have brought the Club successes over the years, the philosophy is about creating a recognisable style of play that is firmly centred around the development of homegrown talent.

I'm confused by the term "get supporters up off their feet".  Do they want us to jump in the air?  

[coprolite]

20 minutes ago, resk said:

I'm confused by the term "get supporters up off their feet".  Do they want us to jump in the air?  

I missed that bit. Antigravity football i guess. 

[tarapoa]

36 minutes ago, resk said:

I'm confused by the term "get supporters up off their feet".  Do they want us to jump in the air?  

Siddoon min

[betting competition]

Trying to be positive after last night and the only thing I can take from Goodwin bad start is that McInnes only won 1 in 5 games.

[tarapoa]

3 hours ago, Rodhull said:

 

 

 

 

Ram on the rear........I like it.

[Rodhull]

1 minute ago, tarapoa said:

 

Ram on the rear........I like it.

Should have got Apex back involved again as well. Get all the tubulars in.

[Bogbrush1903]

53 minutes ago, betting competition said:

Trying to be positive after last night and the only thing I can take from Goodwin bad start is that McInnes only won 1 in 5 games.

Goodwin will need to have a very good summer transfer window because if it goes pear-shaped then I don't think he'll see the January one. Furthermore, we don't really have a good solid core of a team here already so he needs to build that core with his share of the transfer fund kitty off the Ramsey & Ferguson transfers.

Although we're prepared to write off the end of this season at the moment, these hapless, uninspiring opening matches of his managerial reign will count against him if things are still going wrong come October.

I would say, in boxing parlance, he's on the ropes at the moment and, if I'm being honest, I suspect Jim Goodwin will not be Aberdeen manager in twelve months time.

I think it's just too big a job to do in to little time before patience runs out.

Goodwin took over a mess; however, I think he should've aimed for consolidation of the club's and his own position first. He's been brave or foolhardy with his decisions so far.

I think it would've been prudent to try a gradual revolution, offer hope to the existing players in the squad whether you wanted them or not, and try to squeeze every last bit of effort and application out of the squad until you could replace unwanted players.

I don't think you can just ignore what's happened so far just because he didn't sign any of the players.

 

 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Bogbrush1903

[Rodhull]

3 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Goodwin will need to have a very good summer transfer window because if it goes pear-shaped then I don't think he'll see the January one. Furthermore, we don't really have a good solid core of a team here already so he needs to build that core with his transfer kitty of the Ramsey & Ferguson transfers.

Although we're prepared to write off the end of this season at the moment, these hapless, uninspiring opening matches of his managerial reign will count against him if things are still going wrong come October.

I would say, in boxing parlance, he's on the ropes at the moment and, if I'm being honest, I suspect Jim Goodwin will not be Aberdeen manager in twelve months time.

I think it's just too big a job to do in to little time before patience runs out.

Goodwin took over a mess; however, I think he should've aimed for consolidation of the club's and his own position first. He's been brave or foolhardy with his decisions so far.

I think it would've been prudent to try a gradual revolution, offer hope to the existing players in the squad whether you wanted them or not, and try to squeeze every last bit of effort and application out of the squad until you could replace unwanted players.

I don't think you can just ignore what's happened so far just because he didn't sign any of the players.

 

 

 

Can't really argue with that. Don't think anyone's ignoring what is happening but there's not much change to be expected right now as obviously the club isn't going to sack Goodwin this quick and even the most pissed off fan at the moment is likely to still give him the chance to recruit first before going after him.

Like you say if things don't start well next season or at the very least give indications of progress being made it could get uncomfortable for him fairly quick.

[DukDukGoose]

1 hour ago, Rodhull said:

Can't really argue with that. Don't think anyone's ignoring what is happening but there's not much change to be expected right now as obviously the club isn't going to sack Goodwin this quick and even the most pissed off fan at the moment is likely to still give him the chance to recruit first before going after him.

Like you say if things don't start well next season or at the very least give indications of progress being made it could get uncomfortable for him fairly quick.

The only real positive to playing in the league cup groups is that it gives him a chance to get his shit sorted early. Especially as it's against lower league teams. McInnes and Glass had to play decent European teams whilst trying to sort their rebuild.