10menwent2mow Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 This is starting to get very reminiscent of Hibs relegation under Butcher. If we lose to St Johnstone in midweek we are in serious serious trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: This is starting to get very reminiscent of Hibs relegation under Butcher. If we lose to St Johnstone in midweek we are in serious serious trouble. Yea that ain’t happening. Spoiler 0-0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: This is starting to get very reminiscent of Hibs relegation under Butcher. If we lose to St Johnstone in midweek we are in serious serious trouble. If you lose to the St Johnstone team I saw today, you will indeed be in soapy bubble. St Johnstone are usually a tough nut for St Mirren to crack. They never offered anything today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: This is starting to get very reminiscent of Hibs relegation under Butcher. If we lose to St Johnstone in midweek we are in serious serious trouble. There's absolutely no chance Miovski doesnt score against us, and we dont come from behind to win. Youll be safe thanks to the ineptitude of others as much as anything, and i suspect after you play us youll believe that more than you do now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I have only seen the Sportscene highlights so can't comment on today with too much authority, but have seen enough this season to know what this group of players is about now. I do have some sympathy for Warnock at the moment, to be honest; I think in just about any other situation, especially if this was a long-term appointment, it would be classified as too early to make any meaningful judgements on him (even in the reactionary age of social media), but naturally our fans are going to jump straight on him when things are continuing to go badly. He is clearly a good manager, his CV and pure longevity are testament to that, but the dynamics here are a bit different to what he inherited at Huddersfield, who were cut adrift at the bottom with arguably the worst squad in the league and could approach every game as underdogs. They were probably more his 'type' of squad, too; with literally one or two exceptions, we are soft as shite and would apologise to our bully for getting our head flushed down the toilet. I have zero sympathy for Cormack, though. What an absolute mess he has presided over since McInnes left. Glass to Goodwin to Robson to Warnock is an illustration that he is flapping around in the dark with no idea what direction he wants to take this club in (on the field, at least), and no real courage in his convictions either. And, like when Goodwin left and Robson filled the vacuum, he hasn't done the hard work despite having time to do so, so is desperately left looking for a short-term option to save his skin again. I'm not saying he is a bad person, but my word what a dreadful job he has done and is continuing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, DrewDon said: I have only seen the Sportscene highlights so can't comment on today with too much authority, but have seen enough this season to know what this group of players is about now. I do have some sympathy for Warnock at the moment, to be honest; I think in just about any other situation, especially if this was a long-term appointment, it would be classified as too early to make any meaningful judgements on him (even in the reactionary age of social media), but naturally our fans are going to jump straight on him when things are continuing to go badly. He is clearly a good manager, his CV and pure longevity are testament to that, but the dynamics here are a bit different to what he inherited at Huddersfield, who were cut adrift at the bottom with arguably the worst squad in the league and could approach every game as underdogs. They were probably more his 'type' of squad, too; with literally one or two exceptions, we are soft as shite and would apologise to our bully for getting our head flushed down the toilet. I have zero sympathy for Cormack, though. What an absolute mess he has presided over since McInnes left. Glass to Goodwin to Robson to Warnock is an illustration that he is flapping around in the dark with no idea what direction he wants to take this club in (on the field, at least), and no real courage in his convictions either. And, like when Goodwin left and Robson filled the vacuum, he hasn't done the hard work despite having time to do so, so is desperately left looking for a short-term option to save his skin again. I'm not saying he is a bad person, but my word what a dreadful job he has done and is continuing to do. Yip. Can't knock the investment Dave has brought to the club, but his football decisions have been mostly crap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 “We might get things wrong, but we’ll never be confused” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanDrake88 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Dave Cormack will come good with his next appointment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ludo*1 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Calm the f**k down lads. Yes, you might be fucking chronic but you're not going down with a striker like Miovski to bail you out. 9th to 7th mid table mediocrity and build for next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: 9th to 7th mid table mediocrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STFU_Donny Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 39 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Calm the f**k down lads. Yes, you might be fucking chronic but you're not going down with a striker like Miovski to bail you out. 9th to 7th mid table mediocrity and build for next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Whats the general consensus on Warnock so far? Ive always found him a bit of a gobshite whose longevity has somehow convinced a large section of football supporters that hes any good. Probably a good laugh in the pub and as an after dinner speaker. Never saw him as an actual good football manager though. An Aldi Harry Redknapp. An English John Hughes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrational Behaviour Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Can see Warnock and Gunn scouring the free agent page on transfermarkt for some short term recruitment's. Filter search to "last played in English Championship" and he'll find someone he wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 11 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: This is starting to get very reminiscent of Hibs relegation under Butcher. If we lose to St Johnstone in midweek we are in serious serious trouble. I dont think its remotely the same. We had a truly awful squad, lots of players who were obviously looking to get out at the end of the season, Kevin Thomson in the squad and dropped from January by a management team where one (Butcher) was clueless, and the other (Malpas) was a bully. Remember that this was the time we introduced a young Jason Cummings, and he scored to give us a "comfy" lead in the first leg at Hamilton. We had no senior players stepping up and taking responsibility. Aberdeen have at least got some decent players, and a manager who will at the very least be able to work out a plan to cobble together some draws and wins to limp over the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: Calm the f**k down lads. Yes, you might be fucking chronic but you're not going down with a striker like Miovski to bail you out. 9th to 7th mid table mediocrity and build for next season. This where the problem lies. Miovski will be off in the summer. No doubt a few too. I have no faith in the board rebuilding a decent team that will challenge for Europe when in space of a year they can’t even source an permanent manager to the club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 15 minutes ago, Moorie said: This where the problem lies. Miovski will be off in the summer. No doubt a few too. I have no faith in the board rebuilding a decent team that will challenge for Europe when in space of a year they can’t even source an permanent manager to the club I think there’s a decent foundation in the recruitment side, it needs to evolve though. We can forget we’re only a couple of years into the new model. We have to hope we’ve learned some of the lessons of the past few windows. I would question mainly the recruitment mix I.e. the balance between ‘project players’ and relatively known quantities. I think too often of late we’re seeing project players be relied on in key areas of the pitch which becomes a massive gamble, particularly defensively. Secondly, I’d be keen to know how final decisions are made on players. Guys like Richardson and morris, I can see from watching them how they might show up well statistically and come up as targets when you run things like dribbles completed, pace, athleticism, areas of the pitch they take up. But you don’t need to watch them for long to know they are at best very raw and not ready to be relied on. Richardson in particular was signed at the time to be first choice right back, with mccrorie to be in midfield with ramadani. This pretty quickly got ruined by the fact Richardson was pish. We’re then chasing our tails and changing shape to try and resolve this. That’s just one example but there are a few where lack of diligence (it would appear) has put us in trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 hours ago, Jacky1990 said: Whats the general consensus on Warnock so far? Ive always found him a bit of a gobshite whose longevity has somehow convinced a large section of football supporters that hes any good. Probably a good laugh in the pub and as an after dinner speaker. Never saw him as an actual good football manager though. An Aldi Harry Redknapp. An English John Hughes. He has eight promotions in English football, and the sort of job he did just a year ago at Huddersfield is remarkable; producing a genuine miracle to keep a seemingly doomed team in the Championship with a bit to spare. That doesn't mean he will necessarily do well with us, of course, but you can't really doubt the substance of Warnock's career, even if the style will sometimes rub people up the wrong way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 13 hours ago, Munoz said: What bubble are you referring to? We’ve not had a bubble to burst for months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The thing I find strange about Warnock, who I thought was a decent short term appointment, is that he has a big reputation for his man management. He certainly hasn’t shown that in his interviews since joining. He’s slated the players in almost every interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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