Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: My worry with us has been how there's no clearly shite side this season. Like last year everyone knew Hamilton was done pretty early on. County have played better than their results all season and are now catching up with that. Dundee have a couple of proper match winners to dig them out a hole when needed. Livingston are Livingston. St Mirren are too boring to get caught in the mess at the bottom and will skulk around 7th or 8th for the next 5 months. It feels like the sort of season where a team who would usually do just enough to survive is going to find themselves stuck to the bottom. This is my point exactly. Every 5 seasons or so we have a league where there's no absolute stick on relegation candidate. We have teams who look obviously weaker... maybe Dundee, Ross County etc.. but they're no means a stick on for relegation and they're well capable of fighting for survival. That makes it more dangerous for more' complacent' sides such as Aberdeen and St Johnstone who think that they're untouchable. This Aberdeen side frankly, are weak. They're a mirror image of Hibs on 2014 and are eminently relegateable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Can’t be arsed commenting on today’s game, other than to say, GLASS OUT NOW. This farcical appointment was doomed from the start. He’s proving the many doubters right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: This seems a very weird, arrogant state of affairs to be in. I'm not saying we WILL be relegated, I'm just saying that we COULD WELL BE relegated, or in a play off. To say otherwise is astoundingly complacent or naive. You seem to be treating each game as a one off, where we lost narrowly and were somehow unlucky. We weren't. We've been shite. We've been defensively weak, and offensively pathetic. This is a team in relegation form. I'm happy that you think otherwise, but it's maybe time you started looking at facts. You likened us to Hibs 2014. Go have a look at that squad. It's no wonder they went down. I'm not going to get upset about things in November when the league is tight and a couple of wins could have use top half. Teams are taking wins off each other every week. A bad December and I'll be getting worried. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Alex_14 said: It’s worrying how much we appear to miss Ramsay. He is the creative outlet and we have nothing without him. We've missed Andy Considine more than anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said: After watching today, anyone that says that Glass is the answer needs fucking shot. That was a heap of passive, pathetic fucking drivel where we barely crossed the half way line 2 or 3 times in 90 minutes. This is truly a horrific sense of water torture, where dreadful , dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.....dreadful...performances are being masked by the fact that we usually only lose by a single goal or so. We're heading head first in to a relegation battle that we're utterly unprepared for. And yet week after week, we keep on accepting the same pish. Glass is deaf in the water, but he's still being allowed the opportunity to drag us into the Championship. f**k him, and f**k Dave Cormack for turning into relegation fodder in the name of his ego. I know that you are one of the more pessimistic posters on here and that you are desperate for Glass to be recycled, but to say that our performances have been dreadful, dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.....dreadful is utter pish. The results have indeed been dreadful in most cases but not the performances. Individual mistakes, quite a few of them, have been at the root of the results, either in defence or in front of goal. I thought that we defended better today than we have done for some time with players getting closed down and loads of blocks being put in, and no matter what you say about Hayes clearance the winning goal was a total fluke, whether people thought it was coming or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 We've missed Andy Considine more than anyone. Perhaps, wouldn’t totally disagree. But Ramsay was very high up on the creativity charts (I can’t be arsed checking tbh) in terms of assists, chances made etc.. Nobody is replicating that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: You likened us to Hibs 2014. Go have a look at that squad. It's no wonder they went down. I'm not going to get upset about things in November when the league is tight and a couple of wins could have use top half. Teams are taking wins off each other every week. A bad December and I'll be getting worried. We've won, what? 4 games out of 15. Let's say we're winning 1 in 4. Although our wins come in little bunches. Our form is frankly, awful. We've had a bad September, October and November. Why should you be waiting for December to be equally bad to say that things aren't good enough? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: We've won, what? 4 games out of 15. Let's say we're winning 1 in 4. Although our wins come in little bunches. Our form is frankly, awful. We've had a bad September, October and November. Why should you be waiting for December to be equally bad to say that things aren't good enough? October wasn't bad. You're just being silly now. We're a team in transition acting like a team in transition. No team in the league should be worried about relegation at this points, let alone the team in 8th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: I know that you are one of the more pessimistic posters on here and that you are desperate for Glass to be recycled, but to say that our performances have been dreadful, dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.....dreadful is utter pish. The results have indeed been dreadful in most cases but not the performances. Individual mistakes, quite a few of them, have been at the root of the results, either in defence or in front of goal. I thought that we defended better today than we have done for some time with players getting closed down and loads of blocks being put in, and no matter what you say about Hayes clearance the winning goal was a total fluke, whether people thought it was coming or not. I said that today was dreadful because we were passive, and offered absolutely zilch going forward. We didn't lose 9-0 but it was still a dreadful performance for an Aberdeen side that is supposed to improve under the current manager. The other stuff you've posted is absolutely rose tinted. Are you actuslly saying that for the 8 games out of 15 that we've lost this season, we've somehow been unlucky, or there's a reason for each loss, or there's an excuse for it all? I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic. Our current form is putting us on track to get 38 points from this season. That's around, or just above, relegation form. At what point do we start actually recognising that out of interest? Now, next week, January, or May? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: You likened us to Hibs 2014. Go have a look at that squad. It's no wonder they went down. 100% right, Aberdeen are not even in the same ballpark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: We've missed Andy Considine more than anyone. Now you’re talking sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: October wasn't bad. You're just being silly now. We're a team in transition acting like a team in transition. No team in the league should be worried about relegation at this points, let alone the team in 8th. I live that word 'transition'. It implies an absolute certainty that we're somehow in a a bad spell between 2 good spells. A bit like Aberdeen under McGhee was a 'transition' between Alex Ferguson and the 2014 Mcinnes side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of throw-ins Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 It's not just about individual mistakes. Most of the teams we've played against are set up to defend in depth. One of the reasons they do that is because their managers know that defenders at this level will make mistakes. The more defenders you have in the box, the less chance that individual mistakes will lead to goals. It's not the amount of defensive mistakes that's killing us, it's how often those mistakes are leading to goals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I said that today was dreadful because we were passive, and offered absolutely zilch going forward. We didn't lose 9-0 but it was still a dreadful performance for an Aberdeen side that is supposed to improve under the current manager. The other stuff you've posted is absolutely rose tinted. Are you actuslly saying that for the 8 games out of 15 that we've lost this season, we've somehow been unlucky, or there's a reason for each loss, or there's an excuse for it all? I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic. Our current form is putting us on track to get 38 points from this season. That's around, or just above, relegation form. At what point do we start actually recognising that out of interest? Now, next week, January, or May? I never once used “unlucky”, although the winner today could quite justifiably be described as such. My gripe with your post is that you described our performances as dreadful, dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.....dreadful. Having watched all of our matches this season, as you may well have as well, the only one where we truly poor for most of the game was against St Johnstone at home. Today wasn’t great and felt that we did ok in the first half, but did virtually nothing second half, although we did defend reasonably well. In most games we’ve had spells of domination, failed to put our chances away and then made individual mistakes to lose goals. You’re right, obviously, that if we keep losing matches at the rate we are just now we will be in a relegation fight, but I don’t feel we are yet. Ask me again at the winter break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, kingjoey said: I know that you are one of the more pessimistic posters on here and that you are desperate for Glass to be recycled, but to say that our performances have been dreadful, dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.....dreadful is utter pish. The results have indeed been dreadful in most cases but not the performances. Individual mistakes, quite a few of them, have been at the root of the results, either in defence or in front of goal. I thought that we defended better today than we have done for some time with players getting closed down and loads of blocks being put in, and no matter what you say about Hayes clearance the winning goal was a total fluke, whether people thought it was coming or not. I don’t really buy into this. I think the narrative that we’re playing but have been unlucky is very dangerous actually. I really haven’t seen it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I live that word 'transition'. It implies an absolute certainty that we're somehow in a a bad spell between 2 good spells. A bit like Aberdeen under McGhee was a 'transition' between Alex Ferguson and the 2014 Mcinnes side. You’re giving no credit to Alex Smith’s fabulous team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: I don’t really buy into this. I think the narrative that we’re playing but have been unlucky is very dangerous actually. I really haven’t seen it. Again, never said we have been unlucky as such, but you haven’t seen us playing well? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I live that word 'transition'. It implies an absolute certainty that we're somehow in a a bad spell between 2 good spells. A bit like Aberdeen under McGhee was a 'transition' between Alex Ferguson and the 2014 Mcinnes side. No. It's a transitional season because the last manager cobbled together a poor squad which needed an overhaul. The new manager was also instructed to make use of the youth squad which was largely neglected. Whether Glass leaves in January or May, he's almost certainly leaving the squad in a better place that it was when he inherited it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Again, never said we have been unlucky as such, but you haven’t seen us playing well? Really? If we ran through the games that we’ve lost I don’t think I’d identify a good performance in there. We’ve played well at times overall but we’ve tended to take something from those games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I don’t really buy into this. I think the narrative that we’re playing but have been unlucky is very dangerous actually. I really haven’t seen it. There's definitely been an element of bad luck. It's not often you see every defensive mistake be punished, along with goals being cleared off the line almost every week. Unfortunately there's a lot of tactical naivety to go along with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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