Afc69 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: Christie didn't establish himself in the celtic team until about the October of the season we wanted him permanently. The deal was all agreed then Lawwell pulled the plug at the last minute. Likely due to them pissing about with McGinn. But Christie wasn't even in the picture at Celtic for the first couple of months of that season and it was a cup tie against Hearts that he got subbed on and changed the game for Celtic that got him in the team. Correct. Christie wasn’t even on the bench for the early Euro qualifiers and was well out of the picture. Scored a deflected equaliser in that aforementioned Cup tie v Fartz, got a 2nd later on and then his Sellic career took off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Is there a rumoured fee agreed for Ramsey with Liverpool? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Is there a rumoured fee agreed for Ramsey with Liverpool? £4 million, apparently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of throw-ins Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 The idea that Christie nearly came here isn't just a rumour, it's been confirmed several times since by McInnes and Christie himself in interviews. He was in a form slump before he left here, something many speculated was caused by career uncertainty. He didn't look like a player who'd be getting a game for Celtic, in fact he arguably wasn't justifying selection at Aberdeen. I remember I happened to be sitting next to a guy scouting for one of the bigger English championship clubs at one match, he was looking at more than one player but we had a chat and talked about Christie. He said his take on Christie was was that he was a gifted player who was known to be in a form slump, so although he was one of the more interesting players on view he hadn't expected to see much from him - and he didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Frank Grimes said: £4 million, apparently With “significant add ons” almost as importantly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Thenorthernlight said: With “significant add ons” almost as importantly. Hopefully more important long term You can’t imagine sell on fee being important but certain number of appearances in EPL, Europe etc will be the main one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Frank Grimes said: £4 million, apparently You've missed out a zero, shirley? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Hopefully more important long term You can’t imagine sell on fee being important but certain number of appearances in EPL, Europe etc will be the main one Would you rather a high sell on clause for his move after Liverpool, or high bonuses for what he achieves at Liverpool? He's obviously a top quality talent attacking wise, but can't help but feel this move is too early for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logie skid boys Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Would you rather a high sell on clause for his move after Liverpool, or high bonuses for what he achieves at Liverpool? He's obviously a top quality talent attacking wise, but can't help but feel this move is too early for him. Well think we are all in agreement Liverpool will have nae intentions playing him in first team any time soon that’s obvious . Wouldn’t be surprised or I hope he comes back here on loan ,if not here Liverpool will send him out somewhere that’s for sure. . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Hopefully more important long term You can’t imagine sell on fee being important but certain number of appearances in EPL, Europe etc will be the main one You never know down there. If it’s 20% of ANY future fee, then even a £4m sale in 2 years to a lower EPL club or Championship club means an extra £800k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland_mechanic Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Would you rather a high sell on clause for his move after Liverpool, or high bonuses for what he achieves at Liverpool? He's obviously a top quality talent attacking wise, but can't help but feel this move is too early for him. Not often I agree with you but I feel that he is moving too soon also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Thenorthernlight said: You never know down there. If it’s 20% of ANY future fee, then even a £4m sale in 2 years to a lower EPL club or Championship club means an extra £800k. It tends to just be on the profit of a sale. That said, a clever loan move from Liverpool to a promotion-chasing Championship club can end up bearing fruit if they're promoted and want to make the player permanent. Ramsay is seemingly being signed to be the backup right-back, but you'd imagine that Gomez will come in where necessary for the majority/all of Premier League matches with Ramsay playing in some cup games. Probably mostly gonna be PL2 football for him this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 hours ago, highland_mechanic said: Not often I agree with you but I feel that he is moving too soon also. Aye. I don't know how to word this without the inevitable onslaught, but I think Aberdeen is the right level for him just now to learn the game. A 40+ game season at Aberdeen, with Goodwin likely helping him improve defensively, feels like its would be better than a season of U23 football for Liverpool to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, RandomGuy. said: Aye. I don't know how to word this without the inevitable onslaught, but I think Aberdeen is the right level for him just now to learn the game. A 40+ game season at Aberdeen, with Goodwin likely helping him improve defensively, feels like its would be better than a season of U23 football for Liverpool to me. Probably yes but he’d be a very brave man to reject when Liverpool make a move. Realistically he can’t turn it down. A good move for all parties may be a bit and loan back but doesn’t sound like that’s on the cards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Aye. I don't know how to word this without the inevitable onslaught, but I think Aberdeen is the right level for him just now to learn the game. A 40+ game season at Aberdeen, with Goodwin likely helping him improve defensively, feels like its would be better than a season of U23 football for Liverpool to me. He’s undoubtedly moving too soon, but the main problem is how the player and his family are feeling about this. Once they hear that a team like Liverpool are involved you would imagine that both Calvin Ramsay and his family will be desperate for him to go there. This opportunity to go to a club as big as Liverpool may never come to him again, and no form of logic will dissuade them from that, you would think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Probably yes but he’d be a very brave man to reject when Liverpool make a move. Realistically he can’t turn it down. A good move for all parties may be a bit and loan back but doesn’t sound like that’s on the cards. Aye, it'll be life changing money for him most likely, and turning down a club of that size is always daft when an injury can hit at any point. Be interesting to see what they do with him, as I'm not even sure he's ready for the Championship down there? It would be derided as an awful move but a loan to a top end League One side (Derby?) would be the best for me. Think you're generally better going below your level down there and standing out, otherwise you can get lost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 He's not saying no to Liverpool. Even something like 10apps and 10 unused sub games would be a result for him this season. This move also wins him his next move if it all goes wrong eg he'll get an English Championship gig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) Obviously if Liverpool come calling they he or Aberdeen won’t say no. A huge gamble but the price/exposure could go up if he stays a season though and gets international recognition and cements a place. As it stands at club level Ralston won’t get a game ahead of Juranovic, Patterson can’t get a game ahead of bloody Jonjo Kenny and Sod is a bit shit really. An inform Ramsay could make that his own by almost almost default if the rest can’t get a game. Probably all irrelevant now though if the Liverpool stuff looks to be true. Edited June 8, 2022 by gannonball -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, d31 said: He's not saying no to Liverpool. Even something like 10apps and 10 unused sub games would be a result for him this season. This move also wins him his next move if it all goes wrong eg he'll get an English Championship gig He won't get near their line up this season, outwith the League Cup, I'd have thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I would've advised Ramsay to say no. He wouldn't be saying no to Liverpool first team, he's saying no to Liverpool's under-23s or whatever it is. His game needs so much development, defensively, positionally, and also his stamina and enthusiasm has been questionable on the sparse evidence we have so far. I don't think a Michael Hector type loan career will do him good, and doesn't exactly endear you to the loan team's support if things go through a sticky spell. I think Italy was the best move for him both personally and to develop his game especially the defensive aspects. However, I would also think even Leeds would've had more fruitful possibilities than Liverpool. He's basically got a season to somehow impress in the under-23s otherwise they'll look elsewhere and Ramsey will quickly become a yesterday's man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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