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Carragher is the classic example of why England fail at International level.

The media pick the team for the most part and the media only watch the top sides. Jack Colback plays 115 games for Sunderland and does very well for the best part of 4 seasons. He gets a free transfer to Newcastle as his contract had expired and hes immediately in the next England squad having never got a mention over the previous 4 years and having only started two games for Newcastle.

Are we really saying he got that much better in the month (and two games he played) or are we saying if you play for a club the media don't watch and write about, you are nothing?

This is nothing new, its been going on for years and Carragher was a classic example as he played for the right club.

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10/10 for wee Strachan. Wasn't overly excited when he was appointed, but he's certainly got us playing. Really good performance, unlucky not to draw. Pleased to see Darren Fletcher back and looking fit. Suppose the real test will be if we can be clinical in turning over the 'lesser' teams in the group - something we've failed to do in the past. :-)

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Ultimately it doesn't matter who you are or who you're playing, be it the World Champions or a primary school team: losing a goal like that is completely unacceptable and if you defend that badly you deserve to lose. The second half performance was encouraging though and if we can run Germany that close it bodes well for the rest of the qualifiers. We need an end to glorious failure and now's the time it should happen: getting to the playoffs is the absolute worst case scenario here.

As an aside, while we've only ourselves to blame for losing, the ref had an absolute nightmare. Durm's foul on Naismith was a blatant red card and he can't count. Minimum of three minutes of stoppage time signalled, play was stopped for Reus to get treatment from about 89:30 to 92:00, he blew for full time at 94:26. Even if you discount the 30 seconds from 89:30 to 90:00 and the 30 seconds for Mulgrew's sending off, he should have played to 95:00 as an absolute minimum. This kind of thing happens far too often when there's a stoppage in stoppage time. Referees should have a basic arithmetic test as part of their training because if they can't work out how much stoppage time should be played they can't be referees.

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10/10 for wee Strachan. Wasn't overly excited when he was appointed, but he's certainly got us playing. Really good performance, unlucky not to draw. Pleased to see Darren Fletcher back and looking fit. Suppose the real test will be if we can be clinical in turning over the 'lesser' teams in the group - something we've failed to do in the past. :-)

Strachan is a top bloke. I met him on a train on my way back from WBA v Sunderland a few seasons back when he was Middlesbrough manager and they had played at QPR. We had been on a session all day and he had no reason to want speak to us but he gave us some of his time and was good crack. I have a lot of time for him after that as to be honest we were well served and most would have told us to do one.

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Nah, I think Strachan is settled and happy with the Scotland job. He probably quite likes the fact that it isn't hands on everyday of every week, he seems the type who enjoys his own time and space away from football which international management gives you. The Scotland fans love him and he loves that so I can see him being around for a decent amount of time yet.

Completely agree - what I said was more of a "typical Scotland" comment, in that it'd be thoroughly unsurprising if, when our fortunes finally look to have turned, we lost the catalyst behind that change.

I'd absolutely fancy us to finish ahead of one or both of Poland and Ireland if we could play like this in every game. Will wait and see how we do against Georgia and said teams, though, as we have previous for punching above our weight against the big guns and then floundering when the onus is on us to get a result.

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Carragher is the classic example of why England fail at International level.

The media pick the team for the most part and the media only watch the top sides. Jack Colback plays 115 games for Sunderland and does very well for the best part of 4 seasons. He gets a free transfer to Newcastle as his contract had expired and hes immediately in the next England squad having never got a mention over the previous 4 years and having only started two games for Newcastle.

Are we really saying he got that much better in the month (and two games he played) or are we saying if you play for a club the media don't watch and write about, you are nothing?

This is nothing new, its been going on for years and Carragher was a classic example as he played for the right club.

Do you honestly think we give a f**k?

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Carragher is the classic example of why England fail at International level.

The media pick the team for the most part and the media only watch the top sides. Jack Colback plays 115 games for Sunderland and does very well for the best part of 4 seasons. He gets a free transfer to Newcastle as his contract had expired and hes immediately in the next England squad having never got a mention over the previous 4 years and having only started two games for Newcastle.

Are we really saying he got that much better in the month (and two games he played) or are we saying if you play for a club the media don't watch and write about, you are nothing?

This is nothing new, its been going on for years and Carragher was a classic example as he played for the right club.

Clearly more a case of adding new left-footed players in the usual re-building phase post-WC, hence Delph and Rose also. But whatever suits your agenda.

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Automatic. Even the 'best' 3rd placed team qualifies automatically.

I take it the 3rd best team is the team that finishes 3rd with the highest point total?

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Yes we got beat but come on look at the bottle we played with keeping the same system against the Germans the world champs

We have to take confidence into the next game that we can go out and win it

Naismith was so unlucky hitting the edge of the post

If that goes in we are talking about another game

We gave it our all we cant ask anything more out of them tonight

Keven McDonald should have came on. Would have won us the game

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Yep. Results against the team at the bottom of the group don't count though.

That's a pretty pish rule. Still think/hope we finish 2nd and avoid any playoff rounds

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