locheedee Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, AnAnInginAneAnA said: If not a barrowload, he'd certainly do better than Faiss has IMO. Yeah a barrowload is maybe pushing it given his form at Falkirk but if he was playing like he did when he first signed... & Lol, totally like - Faiss ain't no number 9! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinko Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Anyone got an inside view on the McPake situation? It's been so long now that if he knew there was no chance surely he'd announce his retirement? Must still be hope of him returning. Is he in any sort of training? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I kind of agree with you... I don't think he was ever that good but he was a huge improvement over what we'd had up til then. His workrate was immense but I think that was actually an issue in the end since he really should have been able to delegate scouting and the like to dedicated scouts and focus his energy on whats important for a manager. His choice of player was wildly hit or miss but his first few seasons he found a few gems but he also picked up utter shite like Phil Roberts and laterly Tom fucking Hateley... + His supposed stubborness/attitude issues were meant to be the reason for the obvious rift that appeared in the team which ultimately comes down to man management for me since we went from a good tight squad to having a group that all wanted away for whatever reasons (Bain, Stewart, Hemmings, McGinn and Loy) and our fan favourite Harkins forced out of the club... Totally and utterly this. The inability to delegate successfully is one of the biggest failings a manager of anything can make. If you spend all your time doing everything because you can do it better than the rest of your management team and your business still manages to grow, eventually you will implode. Also as you devote more and more time at the coal face ‘doing the day job’ you will have less and less time to develop your team, analyse their strengths and weaknesses, give more responsibility to the strongest of those who report into you and seek replacements for those who aren’t cutting it. I’ve had a large vodka. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Fifespud said: I’ve had a large vodka. Haha, no worries man I'd had a few when I replied to Ludo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On yerself Randy https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/dundee-star-randy-wolters-kilmarnock-bad-eaten-boots-wed-lost/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I kind of agree with you... I don't think he was ever that good but he was a huge improvement over what we'd had up til then. His workrate was immense but I think that was actually an issue in the end since he really should have been able to delegate scouting and the like to dedicated scouts and focus his energy on whats important for a manager. His choice of player was wildly hit or miss but his first few seasons he found a few gems but he also picked up utter shite like Phil Roberts and laterly Tom fucking Hateley... + His supposed stubborness/attitude issues were meant to be the reason for the obvious rift that appeared in the team which ultimately comes down to man management for me since we went from a good tight squad to having a group that all wanted away for whatever reasons (Bain, Stewart, Hemmings, McGinn and Loy) and our fan favourite Harkins forced out of the club... Just checked and Phil Roberts is down in Conference South with Braintree. 10 goals in 12 appearances...found his level! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just checked and Phil Roberts is down in Conference South with Braintree. 10 goals in 12 appearances...found his level! His ability was never in question. He could easily have made it at a bigger club than ourselves if he wasn't such a fucking waster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 His ability was never in question. He could easily have made it at a bigger club than ourselves if he wasn't such a fucking waster. His crosses to goal ratio must have been quite good here. Corners against Raith (maybe imagined that), Celtic and St Johnstone and then a whipped cross as a sub against Thistle which caused an own goal. Seemed to have this really good style in how he delivered.A massive fud and not all there in the head but I reckon he was genuinely one of the most naturally talented players we've had in recent years. Looking at someone like Boyle who has formed a very decent career for himself, he should have been light years ahead.In the 20s games, he'd refuse to move. There was also the incident where he went out on loan to Alloa and stopped showing up to training. Danny Lennon then apparently went to meet him and gave him a big pep talk about getting him back on track and the two left pretty positive about things with the plan being he'd return in the next session and they'd have a fresh start - no show. The club also then helped him out after all of that and gave him a pre-season to restart which he made nothing of.He's still young I suppose, he could make a football league side if he maybe grows up. Maybe some issues in the background there that we're not aware of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Seeing Phil Roberts in a nightclub in Dundee, completely steaming the morning before he made his debut for Alloa on loan is up there with the most surreal things I've seen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 His ability was never in question. He could easily have made it at a bigger club than ourselves if he wasn't such a fucking waster. See Leon Knight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedfcno1 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Got mates season book match day 5-or 6? So can take ticket out book. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Got mates season book match day 5-or 6? So can take ticket out book. Cheers Is it not only 4? County, Hibs and St Johnstone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 His crosses to goal ratio must have been quite good here. Corners against Raith (maybe imagined that), Celtic and St Johnstone and then a whipped cross as a sub against Thistle which caused an own goal. Seemed to have this really good style in how he delivered.A massive fud and not all there in the head but I reckon he was genuinely one of the most naturally talented players we've had in recent years. Looking at someone like Boyle who has formed a very decent career for himself, he should have been light years ahead.In the 20s games, he'd refuse to move. There was also the incident where he went out on loan to Alloa and stopped showing up to training. Danny Lennon then apparently went to meet him and gave him a big pep talk about getting him back on track and the two left pretty positive about things with the plan being he'd return in the next session and they'd have a fresh start - no show. The club also then helped him out after all of that and gave him a pre-season to restart which he made nothing of.He's still young I suppose, he could make a football league side if he maybe grows up. Maybe some issues in the background there that we're not aware of. We had similar with Marcus Maddison, spent U20 games refusing to do what he was asked and moaned constantly about not getting a chance. Left us due to "homesickness".Been linked with £1m+ transfers for the past year or two.Strange how some players can suddenly just click in their own mind. If Roberts follows Maddisons example he could maybe end up similar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedfcno1 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Is it not only 4? County, Hibs and St Johnstone? Yep you’re right. Cheers[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoxblue Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 - 1 the dees today. That is all 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 When does his contract run out? 2019. Signed an extension last year.http://dundeefc.co.uk/news/mcpake-signs-extension/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinko Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Signed that a year ago and not a hope of him kicking a ball one year on.Do we blame Hartley for this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Signed that a year ago and not a hope of him kicking a ball one year on.Do we blame Hartley for this? Harsh to blame anyone really. I'd have been pretty disgusted if we just cast him aside and by all accounts the contract was apparently a reduction in pay and it's not like it was a charity case either as he's been put to good use coaching our Youths and also has acted as our spokesman in the States. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pinko said: Signed that a year ago and not a hope of him kicking a ball one year on. Do we blame Hartley for this? Hartley was widely criticised at the time, and rightly so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinko Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Harsh to blame anyone really. I'd have been pretty disgusted if we just cast him aside and by all accounts the contract was apparently a reduction in pay and it's not like it was a charity case either as he's been put to good use coaching our Youths and also has acted as our spokesman in the States. Agree he's been a good ambassador the past year or two. I just don't see any progress/closure on his playing career. He can't be that far away if he plans a return? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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