Rob1885 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 At least Big John probably paid for his fizzy drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I read Keane's first autobiography from before he played with Celtic. He was complimentary about Celtic in the book but I couldn't get over how much of an arsehole he seemed. Every single confrontation and run-in was someone else's fault completely - he was always completely right and they were always completely wrong. And needless to say, Roy had the last laugh. Since then I think the only autobiographical books I've read were by Primo Levi and George Orwell as I swore off sleb autobiographies. f**k these self-centred celeb c***s and their book deals. Saw Kelly Brook's autobiography in WH Smith the other day - who in f**k wants to read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I read Keane's first autobiography from before he played with Celtic. He was complimentary about Celtic in the book but I couldn't get over how much of an arsehole he seemed. Every single confrontation and run-in was someone else's fault completely - he was always completely right and they were always completely wrong. And needless to say, Roy had the last laugh. Since then I think the only autobiographical books I've read were by Primo Levi and George Orwell as I swore off sleb autobiographies. f**k these self-centred celeb c***s and their book deals. Saw Kelly Brook's autobiography in WH Smith the other day - who in f**k wants to read that? Orwell, god bless him, never wrote an autobiog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Saw Kelly Brook's autobiography in WH Smith the other day - who in f**k wants to read that? Me if her pictures are in Braille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Orwell, god bless him, never wrote an autobiog.Homage to Catalonia was autobiographical. It just covered a certain period of his life in the same way that the 'I've just got my first cap for England and a diamond earring, here's my book' ones do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 i'd shag her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Is that what he actually said about Neville or is that a joke?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Homage to Catalonia was autobiographical. It just covered a certain period of his life in the same way that the 'I've just got my first cap for England and a diamond earring, here's my book' ones do. It was a novel, not an autobiography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It was a novel, not an autobiography.It is not a novel and it is autobiographical. I can only surmise you haven't read it, read it and failed to understand anything you read, or don't understand what 'novel' or 'autobiographical' mean. Whichever of these is correct, why you have chosen to try and correct me is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It is not a novel and it is autobiographical. I can only surmise you haven't read it, read it and failed to understand anything you read, or don't understand what 'novel' or 'autobiographical' mean. Whichever of these is correct, why you have chosen to try and correct me is beyond me. I certainly don't understand what the f**k you are on about here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It is not a novel and it is autobiographical. I can only surmise you haven't read it, read it and failed to understand anything you read, or don't understand what 'novel' or 'autobiographical' mean. Whichever of these is correct, why you have chosen to try and correct me is beyond me. Oh dear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I certainly don't understand what the f**k you are on about hereWhat I'm saying is that it is clear from his statement he doesn't know what he's talking about in some respect. That being the case, he shouldn't be telling me I'm wrong when I know what I'm talking about.Tom McB made the same mistake, but his mistake was less monumental and more understandable. Still, being told I'm wrong by someone when I'm right is a pet hate of mine, together with celebrity autobiographies and Roy Keane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I haven't read Homage to Catalonia but I have read Road to Wigan pier and Down and Out in Paris and London. If HTC is anything like them I wouldn't describe it as autobiographical as the author himself is not the subject even if he is the main conduit through which the story is told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I haven't read Homage to Catalonia but I have read Road to Wigan pier and Down and Out in Paris and London. If HTC is anything like them I wouldn't describe it as autobiographical as the author himself is not the subject even if he is the main conduit through which the story is told. Semi autobiographical novel, as opposed to brain-dead footballers life story? Not a dig at Keane, just the paucity of decent football stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I haven't read Homage to Catalonia but I have read Road to Wigan pier and Down and Out in Paris and London. If HTC is anything like them I wouldn't describe it as autobiographical as the author himself is not the subject even if he is the main conduit through which the story is told. Correct, HTC is wonderful. I first read it in '71 and still do re-read it. Great book but it's about freedom, fascism, liberty and working men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Homage to Catalonia was autobiographical. It just covered a certain period of his life in the same way that the 'I've just got my first cap for England and a diamond earring, here's my book' ones do. Naw, sorry pal, it should be read with Thomas'"The Spanish Civil war" all of Paul Preston's wonderful works, as a journal of the Spanish Civil War. It's as autobographical as "The Sun also rises". One can take bits of his life from his collected "Essays, Journailism and Letters" but he did not write an autobigraphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Didn't realise it was written by Roddy Doyle, I might get it He basically seems like a real life Roddy Doyle character anyway, so this could be a work of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What I'm saying is that it is clear from his statement he doesn't know what he's talking about in some respect. That being the case, he shouldn't be telling me I'm wrong when I know what I'm talking about. Tom McB made the same mistake, but his mistake was less monumental and more understandable. Still, being told I'm wrong by someone when I'm right is a pet hate of mine, together with celebrity autobiographies and Roy Keane. No mistake hombre, an Autobiography covers the life, Orwell wrote no such work and asked that no biography of him should be written. I love being pedantic so what does the dictionary say about autobiography? noun, plural autobiographies. 1. a history of a person's life written or told by that person. No such book exists by Mr Blair, God rest his great soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Oh dear? Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm distraught to find that Homage to Catalonia was all a big lie. I'll never trust a book again, apart from the bible of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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