Glenconner Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) The McWhirter twins founded, as well as "fronted", the Guinness Book of Records. Ross was murdered by the Provisional IRA in the 70s. There have been much more sinister far righters than them - especially in the National Front, the BNP and the various splinter parties. The difference between the BNP/NF etc were no more than brown shirt window smashers that were highly infiltrated by the state. The brothers Grimm were sneaking about with others in the British establishment talking about taking out the Wilson government. Edited December 18, 2015 by Glenconner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I've always wondered why the far right gets a disproportionate anount of media coverage compared to left wing parties like Greens, Solidarity, SSP who have all outperformed the far right in elections. Is it because they fear the rise of the far right more than the left or do they actually sympathise with their viewpoints? In what way have the "far left" (I don't count the Greens as part of the far left) 'outperformed' the far right since, well, the turn of the century? The reality is that the BNP and UKIP are way ahead of Solidarity/ the SSP / TUSC during that period, electorally. 2 MEPs and coming ithing a whisker of running a London council, a member of the London assembly, umpteen councillors across England. Even in the period now, where the far right are strugglign to get electoed, their share of the vote is miles ahead of whatever the far left can muster. your premise is completely false. The flames are fanned by a populist tabloid media but that is a symptom of the rise of the far right, rather than the cause. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 In what way have the "far left" (I don't count the Greens as part of the far left) 'outperformed' the far right since, well, the turn of the century? The reality is that the BNP and UKIP are way ahead of Solidarity/ the SSP / TUSC during that period, electorally. 2 MEPs and coming ithing a whisker of running a London council, a member of the London assembly, umpteen councillors across England. Even in the period now, where the far right are strugglign to get electoed, their share of the vote is miles ahead of whatever the far left can muster. your premise is completely false. The flames are fanned by a populist tabloid media but that is a symptom of the rise of the far right, rather than the cause. Other than the 1 Ukip MEP in Scotland elected with 24/7 BBC coverage, what else have the far right done in Scotland. The Ukip went from their high in the Euro elections back to joke figures in May. Their entire 4/5 million votes in May were in England/Wales. Scottish Ukip vote May 2015 election 47,000. That wouldn't be enough to get them a seat in the Edinburgh Parliament if scattered across Scotland plus no doubt with an going Uber Unionist stop the SNP campaign. Most far rightists will probably vote Labour in Scotland going by they post on their websites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I was referring to the UK, not Scotland alone. Scotland does have a proud record of not tolerating fascists, never mind voting for them; thinking back to the far right being given a severe doing on more than one occasion in Glasgow in the 90s, and Griffin being chased from the city when he tried to exploit the murder of Kriss Donald more recently. It was a different story in places like Burnley, Dagenham, the West Midlands, parts of Essex and Kent, not so long ago. Moreoever even when failing to be elected the far right have regularly polled over 20% in local elections there, with the ultra left returning a derisory less than 2% in most of these cases. in the present time UKIP's opportunist strategy of trying to ensconse themselves as a left-alternative tio Labour in former indistrial northern seats, whilst being foaming at the mouth Thatcherites in the Home Counties, has seen them polling bigger numbers than anyone would have imagined a few years ago. Four million votes last May is a pretty major slice of electoral opinion. Hence my argument that it is complacent and foolish to dismiss the presence of far right parties on the electoral landscape, as a passing fad which will blow over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I was referring to the UK, not Scotland alone. Scotland does have a proud record of not tolerating fascists, never mind voting for them; thinking back to the far right being given a severe doing on more than one occasion in Glasgow in the 90s, and Griffin being chased from the city when he tried to exploit the murder of Kriss Donald more recently. It was a different story in places like Burnley, Dagenham, the West Midlands, parts of Essex and Kent, not so long ago. Moreoever even when failing to be elected the far right have regularly polled over 20% in local elections there, with the ultra left returning a derisory less than 2% in most of these cases. in the present time UKIP's opportunist strategy of trying to ensconse themselves as a left-alternative tio Labour in former indistrial northern seats, whilst being foaming at the mouth Thatcherites in the Home Counties, has seen them polling bigger numbers than anyone would have imagined a few years ago. Four million votes last May is a pretty major slice of electoral opinion. Hence my argument that it is complacent and foolish to dismiss the presence of far right parties on the electoral landscape, as a passing fad which will blow over. I'd say there wasn't much in it between most rightwingers and most Vichy sorry No voters in Scotland. Seriously Jim Murphy Labour man. Aye right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The chairman of Scottish UKIP, the wonderfully named Arthur Misty Thackeray, has stood down after being arrested and accused of making "sexual phone calls". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The chairman of Scottish UKIP, the wonderfully named Arthur Misty Thackeray, has stood down after being arrested and accused of making "sexual phone calls". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35453914 Beast 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just saw that. He's not the first beast to be outed in Ukip apparently. Never mind that, we should all be scared of gay marriage causing gay weather problems... http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1341034-ukips-scottish-chairman-resigns-after-court-appearance-for-sex-calls/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The chairman of Scottish UKIP, the wonderfully named Arthur Misty Thackeray, has stood down after being arrested and accused of making "sexual phone calls". The best news i've heard so far this year. Luv it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The chairman of Scottish UKIP, the wonderfully named Arthur Misty Thackeray, has stood down after being arrested and accused of tmaking "sexual phone calls". Good. A somewhat unpleasant individual who made his crust from the more unpleasant side of the "security trade" & was a director of a firm that employed a 15 year old boy as a security guard who was killed on his first night of work. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12077372.Blast_killed_security_youth_Teenager_who_refused_to_attend_school_died_on_first_day_at_work/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 A UKIP spokesman said that it would be inappropriate to comment on an active police enquiry. He then said "Oh baby, you make me so hot... what are you wearing?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Not Ukip but they are linked apparently... and who wouldn't be. The EDL are led by the modern day Jesus Christ. And we all thought he was some bearded hipster from Palestine... And, they have a woman member. I thought it was male-only at BF? Edited January 31, 2016 by AnCrùbag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) UKIP scotland is a waste of time honestly why do UKIP even waste money there Edited February 1, 2016 by wotad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Just saw that. He's not the first beast to be outed in Ukip apparently. Never mind that, we should all be scared of gay marriage causing gay weather problems... http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1341034-ukips-scottish-chairman-resigns-after-court-appearance-for-sex-calls/ your really quoting a statement from like years ago and has nothing to do with how UKIP view gay rights.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 My favourite thing about UKIP is Douglas Carswell and his #CheerUpFacts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) I haven't seen Politics Scotland, the Sunday Politics or the Daily Politics yet acknowledge the Misty Thackeray story. Suddenly UKIP is not the important, mainstream party they usually treat it as when one of its chairmen is a perve. Edited February 1, 2016 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 your really quoting a statement from like years ago and has nothing to do with how UKIP view gay rights.. It seems your Chairman views gay sex as compulsory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 It seems your Chairman views gay sex as compulsory. Seems like the Union Day celebrations might be a man short this year. That's the number down to 8 fat, bald bigots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 A UKIP spokesman said that it would be inappropriate to comment on an active police enquiry. He then said "Oh baby, you make me so hot... what are you wearing?" Play Misty for me... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Not Ukip but they are linked apparently... and who wouldn't be. The EDL are led by the modern day Jesus Christ. And we all thought he was some bearded hipster from Palestine... And, they have a woman member. I thought it was male-only at BF? Britain First seen to be a rebranding of N.F. Or whatever they are known as. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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