Gullane No 4 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Dundee and Dundee United will have installed a covered walkway between the two grounds. Hamilton Accies win 4th successive British championship. Inverness Ross Calley Thistle United win the Norwegian Scotia League. TV programme about the 50th anniversary of the demise of Rangers International. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruoninga Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 As the global popularity of football is still on the rise, the game might see some new superpowers. China, Indonesia, and the United States have the population, now they only need to built a larger popularity (China, US) or sort out the mess that is their current football organization (Indonesia). The FIFA Club World Cup might have serious competitors from all 5 continents (surely the OFC has been integrated into the AFC by then, despite Auckland City's impressive performance last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 People have been predicting the 'rise' of Africa America and Asia for a long time, too. Has to be said that their clubs sides have shown very little prospect yet. International teams like the USA, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Australia and some of the African countries have improved recently... however you can argue this was in part a reclamation of lost ground for the US and Asians - as USA reached SFs in 1930 and famously beat England in 1966, Cuba reached QFs in 1938 and North Korea should've reached SFs in 1966. Mexico also did various things during 1950s-60s-70s albeit they're closer to South American tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum_gers Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 People have been predicting the 'rise' of Africa America and Asia for a long time, too. Has to be said that their clubs sides have shown very little prospect yet. International teams like the USA, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Australia and some of the African countries have improved recently... however you can argue this was in part a reclamation of lost ground for the US and Asians - as USA reached SFs in 1930 and famously beat England in 1966, Cuba reached QFs in 1938 and North Korea should've reached SFs in 1966. Mexico also did various things during 1950s-60s-70s albeit they're closer to South American tradition. I wish they had beaten England in 1966. You mean 1950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 People have been predicting the 'rise' of Africa America and Asia for a long time, too. Has to be said that their clubs sides have shown very little prospect yet. International teams like the USA, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Australia and some of the African countries have improved recently... however you can argue this was in part a reclamation of lost ground for the US and Asians - as USA reached SFs in 1930 and famously beat England in 1966, Cuba reached QFs in 1938 and North Korea should've reached SFs in 1966. Mexico also did various things during 1950s-60s-70s albeit they're closer to South American tradition. The US seems to be catching on now, off the back of the last 2 World Cups and some very good players winding down there careers in MLS. If they continue to keep the momentum going they'll do very well in future. A bit like Switzerland, they have a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who play football first and the traditional domestic sports a distant second. The fact that "White, middle class America" is now starting to buy into it in a much bigger way could be a very significant turn of events in world football. They have the money and the facilities to match up to the best elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I wish they had beaten England in 1966. You mean 1950. Apologies, yes. I see the US as more able to establish themself than China, Indonesia or India... China has only ever qualified for 1 WC (2002) and only got into the current Asian Cup as best-third-place by 1 GD ahead of Lebanon . You would have thought with their increasing wealth over the last couple of decades they might've improved. That said a Chinese club won the Asian CL in 2013. Indonesia qualified for WC 1934 while the Dutch were running them. India are hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'll be 90 so I'll have at least another 30 or 40yrs to go with the advances in medical science made by 2065. Advances in the NHS mean it'll probably cost your first born son to afford these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruoninga Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Apologies, yes. I see the US as more able to establish themself than China, Indonesia or India... China has only ever qualified for 1 WC (2002) and only got into the current Asian Cup as best-third-place by 1 GD ahead of Lebanon . You would have thought with their increasing wealth over the last couple of decades they might've improved. That said a Chinese club won the Asian CL in 2013. Indonesia qualified for WC 1934 while the Dutch were running them. India are hopeless. The US victory over England in 1950 was not a demonstration of their strength at the time, but an isolated incident. For the most part of the 20th century the United States did not even have a professional league. The NASL was successful at some point, but eventually perished. It seems very unlikely that the same will happen with the MLS in the coming decades. In that respect, professional football has a much more stable presence in the US than ever before. The Chinese league is getting richer which allows them to bring in quality, and also increases in domestic popularity. The Chinese national side indeed is still very poor, but the country is so big, as well as very much focused on international prestige, that it almost seems impossible that they will not become something of a side to be reckoned with in the future. By the same logic, the smaller footballing powers of this moment might face future demise. Uruguay and the Netherlands are currently punching above their weight when it comes to their population and probably will not always be able to do so. It is true that a quick rise of Japan and the J-League had been predicted. That has not materialized, but still a gradual increase in quality over the last decades of the Japanese side can be seen. Indonesia breaths football, but apparently the organization behind the game has been a complete mess for some years. India only cares about cricket and field hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 One of the reasons for the growth of football in the US is that it's a cheaper option for parents then say US football or baseball or hockey. A significantly smaller outlay for a set of shinpads, boots and a kit, plus cheaper to run = cheaper overheads = cheaper to join. Also a lot of parents worried by the concussion discussions re gridiron. About the only cheaper organized sport to get into is basketball (I believe), and not everyone is going to grow up to be some sort of giant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I fully expect coaches/managers to have an NFL style challenge flag within 10-15 years never mind 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 see if supras hadnt been banned, this thread would have turned into a population argument by now god its so peaceful now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thread bookmarked, will read again in 50 years somebody will have to read this to me in 50 years as I will be a drooling wreck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Balotelli being treated as we do Pele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 One of the reasons for the growth of football in the US is that it's a cheaper option for parents then say US football or baseball or hockey. A significantly smaller outlay for a set of shinpads, boots and a kit, plus cheaper to run = cheaper overheads = cheaper to join. Also a lot of parents worried by the concussion discussions re gridiron. About the only cheaper organized sport to get into is basketball (I believe), and not everyone is going to grow up to be some sort of giant! From what I know of football in the US, the problem comes entirely with the coaching and the attitudes towards it. Football there is something kids under ten do before going off to play a "real" sport. it's not as much a sport as a means of keeping active. The fascination after the World Cup from what I saw was "what if our best athletes played soccer" which completely misses the point, because if you're not actually good at football it's redundant, if you don't have proper coaching, it's redundant. Will they have proper coaching in the US at some point in 50 years? Who knows. They'd certainly have the money to pour into doing it, now they just need to stop liking shite like baseball or basketball or handegg and we're on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Managers won't be ex players any more, but more like Wenger and mourinho. I think stats will be even more important in football in the future too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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