Tom McB Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 From today's Graun. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/13/eddie-redmayne-golden-globe-stephen-hawking-disabled-actors-characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I could see her point if he blacked up to play a black disabled guy. Otherwise, not relevant as he plays Hawking when not disabled then disabled. Non issue, shitty journalism, close the thread. eta Stop reading the guardian it's full of buckled lefty cnuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcat1990 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Typical self righteous article from The Guardian. They love a (insert subject) is racist/sexist/homophobic story. The one about Thomas The Tank Engine being racist being the most laughable. It's a shame as a lot of their articles are really good, particularly the fitbaw and food sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I get the impression Ms Ryan spent a considerable amount of time staring at a blank computer screen wondering "What can I be offended about today? Come on, there must be something." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Worst thing about the article is that it doesn't end with the quote from extras where kate winslet says "you are guaranteed an Oscar if you play a mental". Missed a trick imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Typical self righteous article from The Guardian. They love a (insert subject) is racist/sexist/homophobic story. The one about Thomas The Tank Engine being racist being the most laughable. It's a shame as a lot of their articles are really good, particularly the fitbaw and food sections. Poor Thomas has never been the same since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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invergowrie arab Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Don't have an opinion. Thanks for asking xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogaBonito Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Charlie brooker is probably the only "comment is free" writer I pay attention to. Ben Goldacre too come to think of it. I bought a copy of the observer recently and it set me back £3! £3! Could have bought a roll and crisps, with a side of chips and a soup for that. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Isn't every actor "faking it" Also, as far as i'm aware the move about Hawkins is also about his motor neurone disease. What are the studios supposed to do? Hire different actors to portrait him before and after the disease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 A useless hack trying to police art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 It's a biopic that charts the life of someone who has struggled with a progressive degenerative disease - if it had been about someone who was born disabled I agree a disabled actor would have been more appropriate, but what were they meant to do in this case - hire an actor in the advanced stages of ALS and then prop him up against walls with someone dubbing his lines for the first hour of the film? Non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Having never seen Robert Downey Jr before at the time, I saw Tropic Thunder and went the whole film not realising that the actor playing this character was white. The ultimate whoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 It's a biopic that charts the life of someone who has struggled with a progressive degenerative disease - if it had been about someone who was born disabled I agree a disabled actor would have been more appropriate, but what were they meant to do in this case - hire an actor in the advanced stages of ALS and then prop him up against walls with someone dubbing his lines for the first hour of the film? Non-story. Nonsense. Even if the film was about the Professor in the advanced stages of his disease, Mr. Redmayne - like Lionel Barrymore, Dustin Hoffman, Daniel Day-Lewis et al. before him - has as much right to play him as an actor with a disability. Hiring an MND actor out of tokenism would be sickly, patronising and grossly unartistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Hiring an MND actor out of tokenism would be sickly, patronising and grossly unartistic. As horrible as it may be to say, many people with MND might not even last for the duration of the filming. The thing with Hawking is that because he's so high profile, people presume that MND is a lasting condition when the average life expectancy from the time of development is supposedly only 2-5 years. A former colleague developed it and died within 9 months of being diagnosed. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 If Ian Dury was still alive, he'd have told Frances Ryan to take a flying f**k to herself. He despised tokenism, & rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Last I heard being black wasn't a disability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 As disgusting as that article is, it has reminded me of Jim Jeffries' story about holding auditions for someone to play someone paralysed from the neck down. A paraplegic actor came to read lines, and when asked if he knew he wasn't allowed to move his arms either, he insisted he could "quad up" for the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Nonsense. Even if the film was about the Professor in the advanced stages of his disease, Mr. Redmayne - like Lionel Barrymore, Dustin Hoffman, Daniel Day-Lewis et al. before him - has as much right to play him as an actor with a disability. Hiring an MND actor out of tokenism would be sickly, patronising and grossly unartistic. I dunno - had it been a film about someone born with perhaps cerebral palsy and there was an actor with the condition who had the required chops, I'd kind of like to see them get the gig. Like I initially said though it was a non-starter in this case - the film's about Hawking's entire life, not just the period since he contracted ALS, and as such required an able-bodied actor who could portray the progression of the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ms Ryan. Wid or widnae. That's what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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