HibeeJibee Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 You would almost think it was something the clubs would be emphasising - or is it just that the general culture is impenetrable? I always cringe when you get some manager on Sportsound saying "so and so is a great lad - he even comes back in the afternoon" or "so and so has a real continental outlook - he even asks the staff about his diet". You'd think they would emphasise it, as the cost of maximising fitness must be far cheaper and efficient than that of buying players or honing youth systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 The clubs probably do emphasise it but theres only so much they can do, it is up to the players to behave professionally and look after themselves. I know a lot of long-distance trail runners and quite a few people into martial arts. The extent these guys train and look after themselves is huge and they aren't even being paid for it, they do it because they have a bit of drive and desire to do well in their sport. This is what I don't get when talking about footballers - we talk about clubs getting them to train well, behave professionally and earn the wage - don't any of them have the drive to do this out of professional pride? Don't they have the drive to actually be the best footballer they can be because it is their chosen sport? Why do paid sportsmen need to be forced when amateurs can do what they need to do out of the love of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think it's the wages; once they achieve a decent professional level (say SPL standard), they get given around £1000 p/w which in this day in age is a brilliant weekly wage which you can live off comfortably and then some. Maybe it's the fact "they make it" at that point, and they don't really see the point in thriving to be the best when they can live comfortably the way they are performing. Shocking attitude like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think it's the wages; once they achieve a decent professional level (say SPL standard), they get given around £1000 p/w which in this day in age is a brilliant weekly wage which you can live off comfortably and then some. Maybe it's the fact "they make it" at that point, and they don't really see the point in thriving to be the best when they can live comfortably the way they are performing. Shocking attitude like. Spot on. An average spl footballer prob gets anywhere between 50-80k (after bonus) for a 25 hour a week job (if that). They are vastly overpaid considering they're not actually that good in the grand scheme of things. Most of these guys will happily spend afternoon in the bookies or nandos or whatever is they do instead of doing something that will help make them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital_stag Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Harkins looked fat to me on Saturday. Far bigger than previous games. County also record the weight and fat % of every player. Even during the close season. ICT - fair shout about fitness, they are the fittest I have seen this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laird Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Generally speaking it mirrors Scottish society - unhealthy food, too much alcohol, too little exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm delighted that Neilson and Levein have made double and triple training sessions the norm at Hearts now. It will only make us better than the dinosaur deadbeats who get the lads in for a couple of hours before they're allowed to f**k off to the bookies in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Spot on. An average spl footballer prob gets anywhere between 50-80k (after bonus) for a 25 hour a week job (if that).They are vastly overpaid considering they're not actually that good in the grand scheme of things. Most of these guys will happily spend afternoon in the bookies or nandos or whatever is they do instead of doing something that will help make them better. They aren't good? Wtf. Aye it's that easy a job to get into.... I'll quit the office the morn, buy a baw, hit the gym and be signed for an SPL side within the year. Don't haver shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vbhoy Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm delighted that Neilson and Levein have made double and triple training sessions the norm at Hearts now. It will only make us better than the dinosaur deadbeats who get the lads in for a couple of hours before they're allowed to f**k off to the bookies in the afternoon. Neilson has really impressed me. Hearts will finish top three in the Premiership next season, it just seems like a very well-run club now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Steven Thompson is fit as f**k.What? Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Neilson has really impressed me. Hearts will finish top three in the Premiership next season, it just seems like a very well-run club now. Top three is pretty ambitious for our first season back but it's certainly not impossible. The summer transfer market will have a big bearing on this and hopefully we keep the likes of Walker and Pallardo. I'd be surprised if we weren't top six at a canter though - 4th or 5th should be more than achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Top three is pretty ambitious for our first season back but it's certainly not impossible. The summer transfer market will have a big bearing on this and hopefully we keep the likes of Walker and Pallardo. I'd be surprised if we weren't top six at a canter though - 4th or 5th should be more than achievable. I agree with you there Paulo but where do you think we need to strengthen? Granted we need to strengthen but who would you pinpoint as a weak link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I agree with you there Paulo but where do you think we need to strengthen? Granted we need to strengthen but who would you pinpoint as a weak link? I'd say it's more a case of hanging onto players rather than having to bring many in. Anyone who does go will then obviously have to be adequately replaced or improved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'd say it's more a case of hanging onto players rather than having to bring many in. Anyone who does go will then obviously have to be adequately replaced or improved on. Fair point....guess I'm just looking into the Cup games v Celtic to judge us for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In what other sport would a full time professional even consider going out boozing most weeks? Would find it quite insulting as a celtic fan to hear of players doing this when they are on tens of thousands a week. Also at that level players should know better without being encouraged by their manager. They should be fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Championship forum for this pish, ta. good one m90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saigon Raider Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Spot on. An average spl footballer prob gets anywhere between 50-80k (after bonus) for a 25 hour a week job (if that). They are vastly overpaid considering they're not actually that good in the grand scheme of things. Most of these guys will happily spend afternoon in the bookies or nandos or whatever is they do instead of doing something that will help make them better. But how much do they make compared to nurses and soldiers? Bloody disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 If you were a Celtic fan you would feel permanently insulted anyway. Reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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banana Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Good on him, 30,000 tits and fanny's turn up to watch him, it's only right he's gets to go and watch some too. But he fell asleep during his lapdance, allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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