Deefiant Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Jesus... The proceedings against Paton are still active. He's to stand trial in October before a jury. Do you genuinely believe that a speculative post on a football forum presents a "substantial risk of prejudicing" this upcoming hearing? That is the only grounds that a statutory contempt action would be pursued under. There are defence that the posts would constitute a discussion of current affairs, particularly with the thread being created on the day the news broke about Patons plea etc. It's clearly applicable to this boards discussion with the fact of significant public figures involved parties being Premiership footballers and the discussion taking place on a Premiership football forum. Common law contempt would further not be applicable as there was no attempt to try and influence the public perception of the individual - in the 1st thread in particular the tongue in cheek subject title was as close as you are going to get in your quest to find something to wet your knickers about and it is clearly an expression of opinion as opposed to putting pressure on for a particular outcome. I do get the need for these topics to be monitored but there appears to be an immediate fear factor with incidents of this nature which rather than promoting discussion of current affairs as a message board should, act to deter people from discussing issues. Unless there is 100% bona fide content which puts the website (and poster) in danger of prosecution then there is no need to remove threads. The approach of stifling any conversation just because it might possibly escalate is IMO prohibitive. I created the initial thread as a wind up and was a bit miffed it was closed with no explanation given, it seems that's the standard of moderation here and as I enjoy my time posting on here I shall suck it up. I have absolutely no belief that any alleged parties will (nor indeed should) go to prison even in the event of a guilty verdict for the alleged offence considering the nature of it as reported and compare with other more recent cases of a similar (albeit more serious) nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Its worse than North Korea on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Dee Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Will there be a jail cell big enough to hold his jaw if he is guilty? Your post just reminded me of a scene from Tango & Cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Or you might want to give your posts a quick proof read before posting nonsensical pish you creepy avatared little man. It's good that you've retained your equanimity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The mods hate Dundee FC. Hardly the most exclusive club, that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Do you genuinely believe that a speculative post on a football forum presents a "substantial risk of prejudicing" this upcoming hearing? That is the only grounds that a statutory contempt action would be pursued under. There are defence that the posts would constitute a discussion of current affairs, particularly with the thread being created on the day the news broke about Patons plea etc. It's clearly applicable to this boards discussion with the fact of significant public figures involved parties being Premiership footballers and the discussion taking place on a Premiership football forum. Common law contempt would further not be applicable as there was no attempt to try and influence the public perception of the individual - in the 1st thread in particular the tongue in cheek subject title was as close as you are going to get in your quest to find something to wet your knickers about and it is clearly an expression of opinion as opposed to putting pressure on for a particular outcome. I do get the need for these topics to be monitored but there appears to be an immediate fear factor with incidents of this nature which rather than promoting discussion of current affairs as a message board should, act to deter people from discussing issues. Unless there is 100% bona fide content which puts the website (and poster) in danger of prosecution then there is no need to remove threads. The approach of stifling any conversation just because it might possibly escalate is IMO prohibitive. I created the initial thread as a wind up and was a bit miffed it was closed with no explanation given, it seems that's the standard of moderation here and as I enjoy my time posting on here I shall suck it up. I have absolutely no belief that any alleged parties will (nor indeed should) go to prison even in the event of a guilty verdict for the alleged offence considering the nature of it as reported and compare with other more recent cases of a similar (albeit more serious) nature. You're probably right although you've overlooked the more likely problem which is that the thread (and the hilarious posts it would have encouraged) would almost certainly have been libelous. But then every second post on this forum is probably libelous, you nonce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Maynard Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 " Oh, Paul patons magic , he wears a magic hat".....................your honour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEEJANGO Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 " Oh, Paul patons magic , he wears a magic hat".....................your honour He has a big stupid chin and he is a twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Feminist mods imho. #weareallpates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Throw away the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 No Paton, no party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Wait what's happening? Has he actually been charged with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Be interesting to hear Dangers sanctimonius views on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyWho? Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Do you genuinely believe that a speculative post on a football forum presents a "substantial risk of prejudicing" this upcoming hearing? That is the only grounds that a statutory contempt action would be pursued under. There are defence that the posts would constitute a discussion of current affairs, particularly with the thread being created on the day the news broke about Patons plea etc. It's clearly applicable to this boards discussion with the fact of significant public figures involved parties being Premiership footballers and the discussion taking place on a Premiership football forum. Common law contempt would further not be applicable as there was no attempt to try and influence the public perception of the individual - in the 1st thread in particular the tongue in cheek subject title was as close as you are going to get in your quest to find something to wet your knickers about and it is clearly an expression of opinion as opposed to putting pressure on for a particular outcome. I do get the need for these topics to be monitored but there appears to be an immediate fear factor with incidents of this nature which rather than promoting discussion of current affairs as a message board should, act to deter people from discussing issues. Unless there is 100% bona fide content which puts the website (and poster) in danger of prosecution then there is no need to remove threads. The approach of stifling any conversation just because it might possibly escalate is IMO prohibitive. I created the initial thread as a wind up and was a bit miffed it was closed with no explanation given, it seems that's the standard of moderation here and as I enjoy my time posting on here I shall suck it up. I have absolutely no belief that any alleged parties will (nor indeed should) go to prison even in the event of a guilty verdict for the alleged offence considering the nature of it as reported and compare with other more recent cases of a similar (albeit more serious) nature. TLDNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Makes too much sense, you are correct. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyWho? Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 FTFY Very good. Your big, long, boring post does make sense, pal. But the law hasn't caught up with the internet yet. Simple as that. If you want to debate the rights and wrongs of the law, I'll doubtless be on your side. But as it stands, f**k ye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Very good. Your big, long, boring post does make sense, pal. But the law hasn't caught up with the internet yet. Simple as that. If you want to debate the rights and wrongs of the law, I'll doubtless be on your side. But as it stands, f**k ye. I'm glad we have reached a mutual accord. I knew you'd come to my way of thinking after seeing you derry'd out your nut in Kilmarnock. Now away and tak yir puss for a shite. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyWho? Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm glad we have reached a mutual accord. I knew you'd come to my way of thinking after seeing you derry'd out your nut in Kilmarnock. Now away and tak yir puss for a shite. Thanks. My best pals are Dees. My lass is an Arab. I'm a Saintee. I'm not Derry'd out my nut. I'm Taysided out my nut. I'm also cool as f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 My best pals are Dees. My lass is an Arab. I'm a Saintee. I'm not Derry'd out my nut. I'm Taysided out my nut. I'm also cool as f**k. You are also very good at singing Dundee songs I will agree you are cool though as I'm magnanimous. Enjoy your evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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